NFL 2013-2014: Snow Plow to the Super Bowl

[PhilsFan]

Based on how it looked, gotta be full tear of ACL, MCL and possibly PCL. Or compound fracture of the tibia.

I think it was PCL because of that crazy angle. That might be the worst knee injury I've seen since Lattimore. God, what a drag. Penn State linebackers are so good, yet they can't stay healthy (Lee, Bowman, Mauti, etc.).

 

[Hewson]

It was a tough one to watch and the replay needed to be seen to see just how badly the refs blew the fumble call (fortunately PEDe Carroll and God corrected the refs on 4th down), its not a Theismann or Krumrie or Moises Alou or the Louisville kid on the gruesome scale, but it was bad enough.

 

[mobvok]

I'm sorry about Navarros knee. I hope he heals quickly.

Go Hawks.

 

[mobvok]

On opening day 2011(?) I said in these threads these Hawks would go unwinnable. Two years later the Seahawks are in the Super Bowl. They are lucky, and they are talented.

Pete Carroll is a good coach.

 

[GirlsAloudFan]

On opening day 2011(?) I said in these threads these Hawks would go unwinnable.

That doesn't make any sense. Get your shit together.

 

[GirlsAloudFan]

Gotta love bullshit NFL thug culture. It never disappoints.

Are you referring to Sherman? He's as far from a "thug" as any corner in the NFL. He's a really smart, hardworking, very well-respected player in the league.

Sure, he talked some shit after the game. His team just made the fucking Super Bowl directly because of an awesome play he made. I personally find his interview way more genuine and entertaining than the typical post game shit. He's not gonna go take out Crabtree's knees or something actually "thuggish". He's not doing anything illegal. He's speaking his mind.

You shouldn't be a pro sports fan if you don't like athletes talking mad shit about other athletes. It happens ALL THE TIME. It's not always televised under such a big spotlight like this, but let's not kid ourselves. The Sherman interview was real. Not some PC, cookie cutter crap.

Spoiler

Devil's Advocate Post. Go Bears.

 

[LemonMelon]

The Sherman interview was real.

It looked like some WWE shit.

I think he knew that people expected a crazy response from him and somebody put a mic in his face.

 

[mikal]

I just loved Erin Andrew's reaction. Priceless!

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[Hewson]

It looked like some WWE shit.

I think he knew that people expected a crazy response from him and somebody put a mic in his face.

I agree, I think the persona of Dick Sherman is premeditated.

 

[PhilsFan]

Someone summed it up nicely last night by saying that Sherman was being criticized for what people lauded Michael Jordan for doing for the last 30 years.

 

[speedracer]

Someone summed it up nicely last night by saying that Sherman was being criticized for what people lauded Michael Jordan for doing for the last 30 years.

Yeah, but MJ's brand of trash talk was way more subtle.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Yea Michael Jordan and Larry Bird were ruthless trash talkers... they didn't do what Sherman did last night.

Sherman is a clown. He's certainly not a "thug" to anything like that. In fact his ability to break out of a horrible neighborhood and overcome the odds stacked against him should be lauded, not derided with ignorant comments.

But his act, which is all premeditated, can be a little much.

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[PhilsFan]

If the conversation is to be about whether he's laying it on too thick, I think it would be a much simpler discussion. It's become about "thugs" and other concepts with racial overtones (who wants to talk about the position of Colin Kaepernick's fucking hat again?) that are frankly absurd.

I think the fact this his interview just ten minutes later was much calmer speaks to how amped he was immediately following the game more than anything. And he really didn't do anything other than loudly declare that he's proven all his doubters wrong. There was no profane rant, no character assassinations even. Just him saying Crabtree should stop talking about him because he beat him.

Hearing him actually talk about football is very enlightening. He understands the position as well as anyone.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

The hit on Talib by Welker could have been dirty, or it could have been simply a side effect of all of the helmet to helmet flags. Guys go low on hits now... it's the unfortunate side effect of stopping the high hits.

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[iron yuppie]

If the conversation is to be about whether he's laying it on too thick, I think it would be a much simpler discussion. It's become about "thugs" and other concepts with racial overtones (who wants to talk about the position of Colin Kaepernick's fucking hat again?) that are frankly absurd.

I think the fact this his interview just ten minutes later was much calmer speaks to how amped he was immediately following the game more than anything. And he really didn't do anything other than loudly declare that he's proven all his doubters wrong. There was no profane rant, no character assassinations even. Just him saying Crabtree should stop talking about him because he beat him.

Hearing him actually talk about football is very enlightening. He understands the position as well as anyone.

If you're referring to my initial comment, I didn't mean to insinuate anything racial, and I don't think the term "thug" is confined to any specific group. Rather it is the hardass posturing from players of all racial and class backgrounds and the way the media encourages it that makes the game sometimes look like a circus. I get that he's excited about the victory. That doesn't mean he needs to pretend he deserves the MVP for deflecting an ill-advised pass thrown into double coverage.

 

[PhilsFan]

I certainly know you meant nothing by it, but there have been commentators who have used the word "thug" in a context that is quite racial. Here's an exchange I saw:

Person 1: Sherman acted and spoke like a complete animal.
Person 2: Try to hide your racism better.
Person 1: Racism? Listen to it with audio only. I would run from anyone who said that in an alley, and so would you.
Person 2: I wonder why you're picturing an alley.

The uses of "thug" that I have seen haven't been much better.

 

[PhilsFan]

Also, he's not the MVP because he made that one play, he's the MVP because he's arguably the best corner in the league and they barely targeted him all game because of that.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

http://deadspin.com/a-guide-to-rich...ource=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

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[corianderstem]

Ohhhh, so THAT'S where all the Adderall jokes are coming from.

 

[Hewson]

Well not just Dick Sherman, many Seahawks under PEDe Carroll have been suspended.

Suspensions ruining a big week for Seattle Seahawks - ESPN

Those latest 2 added to:

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/100145/seahawks-lead-in-ped-bans-under-carroll

 

[corianderstem]

This might be a dumb question, but .... is football like baseball where a lot of people (i.e., me) just assume half the players on all the teams are doping in some way, anyway?

 

[PhilsFan]

It's not on people's minds all the time the way it is in baseball because so few have been suspended, but there's a large suspicion that the NFL is not nearly as clean as its short list of suspended players would make it seem.

 

[corianderstem]

Gotcha. Thanks.

It seems common enough to me in sports where I'm neither surprised nor disappointed (for the most part) to hear about suspensions for doping.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

All sports have serious PED problems. Baseball's the only one with self righteous 90 year old sportswriters who bitch and moan endlessly about it. That's why you hear about it more.

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[No spoken words]

Richard Sherman explains the Crabtree incident and postgame interview | The MMQB with Peter King

 

[corianderstem]

I really hope that story about fans throwing food at the injured 49er isn't true. What a bunch of assholes.

 

[PhilsFan]

It was only one guy dumping popcorn on him from the video I've seen.

 

[corianderstem]

Well, I guess that's .... the slightly better version of the story. Ha.

I hope the better fans around him scolded him severely.

 

[Hewson]

Richard Sherman explains the Crabtree incident and postgame interview | The MMQB with Peter King

I patted him, stuck out my hand and said, “Good game, good game"

Why do I have my doubts that all he said to Crabapple to elicit being shoved was "good game, good game"?

 

[Dalton]

Sherman is an asshat.

Smart kid, no emotional maturity.