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Old 04-29-2005, 02:11 PM   #21
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the lakers lost to a collection of less talented players who would have been humiliated had kobe bryant not been a giant douche bag... and/or would have been humiliated if san antonio or minnesota had advanced to the finals instead. they just happened to run into the right team at the right time and took full advantage of the situation. they could have shit the bed anyway, but they didn't, and they fully deserved to be crowned NBA champions, despite not having the most talent.

that work better for you?

people tend to forget that shaq dominated ben & rasheed wallace in this series... they also tend to forget that the west dominated the east throughout the regular season... that the pistons barely got by the Nets, a team that had lost the previous two NBA finals in convincing fashion (and a team that is currently getting dismantled by the Shaq led Miami Heat right now...)

i'm not saying detroit isn't good, or that detroit didn't deserve to win last year... they won, so they deserve it. all i'm saying is that people tend to over-rate the pistons' talent level just a tad.
Ah, c'mon. You can't shut down everybody on the other team all the time. The Pistons chose to keep Shaq single-covered most of the time, and he scored tons of points, but everybody else won their matchups.
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Ben Wallace just got knocked over by Allen Iverson, drawing a charge.

I'm not sure which of them should be more embarrassed by the incident.
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Ah, c'mon. You can't shut down everybody on the other team all the time. The Pistons chose to keep Shaq single-covered most of the time, and he scored tons of points, but everybody else won their matchups.
that's kinda my point... they knew shaq was gonna score anyways... so instead of double teaming him, they doubled kobe... 'cause larry brown actually watched a game film and picked up on the worst kept secret in basketball... kobe doesn't care if he's double teamed and has no shot, he's shooting anyway, because he is, in fact, a rotten little bitch.

plan worked to perfection.
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Kobe averaged 27.5 pts, 6 rebs, and 6 assists a game this year. The guy is an rat bastard, but he is one of the most talented players in the league.

Will be in the hall of fame
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I hope everyone here is comparing Michaels stats to kobe's stats, even when Kobe has his own team, he can not average as much as Michael or can he get anywhere near Michael's FG%. Michael was always 50% for his career, while Kobe is around 45% or less. Just in case there are any Kobe lovers here, no one will ever be better then Michael he is the KING of basketball, stats dont lie, Kobe is good, but he doesnt have the talent or the intelligence of MJ. And PIPPEN RULES ALSO! And the BULLS will hopefully win a couple games against Miami!
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I hope everyone here is comparing Michaels stats to kobe's stats, even when Kobe has his own team, he can not average as much as Michael or can he get anywhere near Michael's FG%. Michael was always 50% for his career, while Kobe is around 45% or less. Just in case there are any Kobe lovers here, no one will ever be better then Michael he is the KING of basketball, stats dont lie, Kobe is good, but he doesnt have the talent or the intelligence of MJ. And PIPPEN RULES ALSO! And the BULLS will hopefully win a couple games against Miami!
yea thanks... only a douchetacular douchearoonie would ever compare michael jordan to kobe bryant... no one was doing such things here.

but your arguments about why Jordan is better than Kobe... which is obviously true... are not good arguments. you can't go on stats alone. if stats were all that mattered, than hands down, no questions asked, Wilt Chamberlain is the greatest player to ever live.

but he's not... Jordan is. stats count only so much.
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Kobe averaged 27.5 pts, 6 rebs, and 6 assists a game this year. The guy is an rat bastard, but he is one of the most talented players in the league.

Will be in the hall of fame
he's also the second worst guy to have as a teammate in the entire NBA, right behind Iverson.

his assists were up (although just 2 years ago, with shaq, he averaged 5.9 a game), but his field goal percentage was down... again... his turnovers were up, and, most importantly, his touches were WAY up.
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the nets were the hottest team in the east comming into the playoffs... and they just got trounced in 4 straight by the heat.

hmm... lemme try to figure out who's winning the title this year...

miami... my mami
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u dont think Detroit have a chance of knocking them off?

I say Miami over Detroit in 6 or 7, but the Pistons got a chance at it.
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i said miami in 6 before the playoffs started so i'll stick with it... but the fact that detroit hasn't ripped philadelphia apart is troubeling to me...
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he's also the second worst guy to have as a teammate in the entire NBA, right behind Iverson.

his assists were up (although just 2 years ago, with shaq, he averaged 5.9 a game), but his field goal percentage was down... again... his turnovers were up, and, most importantly, his touches were WAY up.
I'd rather have Iverson as a teammate. He's got more heart. There are times when you can see he actually makes an effort to get his teammates involved. He's much better at carrying an entire franchise on his back than Kobe is.
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The Pistons will win it all. Here's why. I have never watched a team play so well together on both ends of the floor. On offense, these guys know their roles and work them to perfection. They have a clutch shooter in Billups, but also know to ride the hot hand as seen last night vs. Philly. Rip was hot, and he took the shots in the end. Depth could be an issue, but they have players who won't kill them and do fit a role. They have to get by Indiana first, but Miami will not beat this team. The Jones' can't beat this team. Shaq will do his thing but the other players will not.

Defense: They work as a team. Watch a team like Dallas or Seattle play D. How many players see the ball weakside and come help out. EVERYONE does on the Pistons. If a player can drive to the basket, they're usually either at least fouled or usually blocked. This team figures out how to beat you and that's that. Iverson scored lots of points, but who moved on? I just don't see anyone in the East beating this team.

I could be convinced about the Spurs however.
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I hate the Wizards...things don't look good for my Bulls...
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Guarantee that U2's road crew will all be rooting for the Wizards Friday night.
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i can't wait for miami to rip detroit a new one...


and on a side note, wow that was a kick in the nuts for the bulls last night.
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Detroit will beat Miami. Seriously all they have to do is get Shaq in foul trouble and they win that particular game. DWade can't beat the Pistons all by himself. Shaq in foul trouble = Pistons win.

And screw Gilbert Arenas. The Bulls have been my team for a decade and a half, as long as I've watched NBA basketball. I was SO pumped after the Wiz choked and the Bulls tied it in the last 35 seconds. I was pumped for overtime.

The Wizards didn't deserve to win that game. When your team misses that many free throws in the final minute of a playoff game, your team doesn't deserve to win that game. Period. Screw Arenas.

And here's to hoping the Rockets win two in a row.
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win your team ends with more points than the other team, you deserve to win the game.
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win your team ends with more points than the other team, you deserve to win the game.
That's bullshit and you know it. The wizards choked their asses off in the last minute of that game and that got damn lucky Arenas hit that shot. They didn't deserve to win the game, period.
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Detroit will beat Miami. Seriously all they have to do is get Shaq in foul trouble and they win that particular game. DWade can't beat the Pistons all by himself. Shaq in foul trouble = Pistons win.
What's the Pissed-ons plan for getting Shaq into foul trouble? Give the ball to offensive Machine Ben Wallace in the post?
The Pissed-ons game is too perimeter oriented to present Shaq with defensive difficulties andf the likelihood of foul trouble. Coupled with the fact that the Pissed-ons have a tendency to go into long scoring droughts in most of their games, beating the Heat will be tough, not impossible, but tough.

As for Dwayne Wade beating the Pissed-ons solo if Shaq were on the bench, don't overlook the role Eddie Jones will play in that series (assuming it comes to fruition), his perimeter and slashing game will be huge, as well as his D on either Hannibal Lechter Hamilton or Chauncy Gardner Billups.
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That's bullshit and you know it. The wizards choked their asses off in the last minute of that game and that got damn lucky Arenas hit that shot. They didn't deserve to win the game, period.
Of course one could argue that the Bulls didn't deserve to win a game in which they allowed a supposedly inferior opponent to take a 22 point lead in their building.

You logic is that the Wizards didn't deserve to win due to poor free throw shooting, of course they were a paltry 18-30 at the line, what did the "deservied to win" Bulls shoot?
Oh yeah thats right....17-30.
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