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Old 11-13-2008, 11:02 AM   #141
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the impressive thing about the Lakers so far is that Bynum isn't even the reason why they've been so good... it's their new found commitment to D.

plus, kobe so far seems to have "gotten it," as far as making sure his teammates are involved while still taking his shots when it's his time to shoot. it's early for that, and i still think he'll be piggish with the ball in a big game, but so far so good.
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yup.
Defense is great so far.
Last night, I don't know if you saw the game, but the effort by people on the second team is far better than last year, i.e. Farmar.
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i didn't... i watched the knicks, south park and then went to the bed. wilson chandler's gonna be a stud, btw. anyhoo...

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plus, kobe so far seems to have "gotten it," as far as making sure his teammates are involved while still taking his shots when it's his time to shoot. it's early for that, and i still think he'll be piggish with the ball in a big game, but so far so good.

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Los Angeles Lakers coach Phil Jackson criticizes Kobe Bryant from time to time for distorting the Lakers' offense by taking shots that are too quick or too many in number. Wednesday night was one of those times according to the Los Angeles Times.

Bryant hit a crucial three-point shot with 1:08 to play to help the Lakers escape with a 93-86 victory over New Orleans, but Jackson didn't like Bryant's fourth quarter.

"He was doing too much at the end of the ball game," Jackson said. "We should have had him off ball a few times so it wasn't always him on ball. But he came through with the big shot that kind of clinched it."

Bryant finished with 20 points on five-for-15 shooting.

Before the game, Jackson was praising Bryant for being in tune with teammates.

Source: Los Angeles Times

kobe needs to continue to understand that the less he has the ball in his hands the more dangerous he will be. it's a very hard thing to understand. jordan got it, kobe, i dunno if he ever fully will.

jordan's the only guy who's been able to average 30 a game consistently while still being the consummate team player. thus why he is who he is, er, was.
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Chandler went to a HS in Compton, Ca.
He did not look good last night.

Phil knows how to get to Kobe's head with those comments.

I wonder how the Lakers would have performed with Bynum and Ariza at the finals last year?
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I wonder how the Lakers would have performed with Bynum and Ariza at the finals last year?
This is what I was saying before. They barely lost two of those games, one because of a big Celtics comeback, and one where the Lakers almost came all the way back from a huge deficit but ran out of time.
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to say the lakers barely lost would be a bit much.

and bynum really hasn't been great yet. he's shooting below 45%... for a guy who shoots all of his shots near the basket that's not exactly good. the lakers success has been despite that... they'll really be scary if they can get bynum going.

and i didn't say tyson chandler of said hornets... i said wilson chandler of said knicks, who was quite good last night... 27 points on 11 of 12 shooting, 4 of 4 from three, 7 boards, 3 steals, 3 assists.

knick fans may have to bite the bullet and thanks isiah for that pick...
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to say the lakers barely lost would be a bit much.
It may sound like semantics, but I said they barely lost TWO of the games. There are still two that they were beaten handily in. My point was that despite the apparent mismatch (and let's not forget, the final score in games was 4-2; they didn't even come close to getting swept), two of those games were VERY close and could have gone either way. And I think a healthy Bynum and Ariza would have made up the difference. I'm not saying they would have annihilated the Celtics, but I think they would have prevailed in a seven game series.
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Prediction: Lakers go undefeated for entire season.
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It may sound like semantics, but I said they barely lost TWO of the games. There are still two that they were beaten handily in. My point was that despite the apparent mismatch (and let's not forget, the final score in games was 4-2; they didn't even come close to getting swept), two of those games were VERY close and could have gone either way. And I think a healthy Bynum and Ariza would have made up the difference. I'm not saying they would have annihilated the Celtics, but I think they would have prevailed in a seven game series.
In the regular season with a healthy Bynum, the Celts smoked the Lakers, and Bynum was to quote Ty Webb "not good", he would not have altered the finals outcome.
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Fixed.

(Yeah, I know the original posts were facetious, but this opportunity just cannot be passed up.)
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The pistons really took it to the Lakers last night.
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yup, it hurt.

Derek was way off last night. "Kwame Brown is playing very good tonight"...never thought I would hear that, ever.
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Phil knows how to get to Kobe's head with those comments.
Yes. Yes I do.
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andrew bynum isn't even playing well so far this year... he's friggin 10 and 9 on the year. lamar odom was 14 and 10 last year in the starting slot that bynum now occupies. i mean it sounds as if bynum's the second coming of shaq the way people are speaking about how the lakers would have won if he was healthy against the C's.

he is not the reason why the lakers have been succesful thus far... it's been their defense. now if you wanna say that bynum being back there has helped the D, i'll give you that. but it's not just him, it's the entire roster.

they've actually started using almost a matchup zone... where a weak side defender comes across the lane to zone up and protect against the drive before recovering on the ball reversal. this helps to negate the oh so boring NBA style of isolation offense.

ironicly enough... who did this with great success last year? the celtics... against the lakers in the finals.






THAT is why the lakers have been so good thus far... not andrew bynum alone. the lakers last year were not playing anything close to the kind of defense they're playing right now.
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I'd like to point out that the Pistons are way worse with Iverson than they were without him.

And certainly New York could find some way to play both Marbury and Curry a little bit.

I mean, I understand they aren't in the teams plans, but just sitting them seems unfair to me.
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what's not fair about it?
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I don't know. I suppose they're still getting paid. Just seems to me that the nice thing to do would be to trade or cut them. But I guess NBA business isn't nice.

Somehow, I have to think that they do enjoy playing basketball...I dunno.
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i have no sympathy for a fat lazy piece of shit who refuses to get himself into good shape (who makes $10 mill per) and the ultimate team cancer who still thinks he's the best point guard in the nba (who makes $21.9 mill per).

but that's just me

they're getting exactly what they deserve.

in fact, they're getting more then they deserve... in a rightous and just world they'd be cut without getting a dime of what's left on their contract. they're a duel disgrace.

if either one of us performed below our abilities to the level that these two have, we'd be fired, and our job wouldn't be giving us a dime, even though we had a contract.
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