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Old 10-14-2003, 11:22 PM   #21
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mainstream rock is dead yeah
but indie rock lives on
Yup, just stick to the underground scene of whatever type of music you prefer. Don't have faith in the mainstream to find good tunes.
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I was basically asking the same thing in my recent post "where is the rock?"

because
I just don't see it.

I agree with the pearl jam/radiohead/coldplay ideas....but that's it?

WE NEED MORE.
What are you looking for??
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Old 10-14-2003, 11:30 PM   #23
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What are you looking for??
I'll tell you man....(or woman):


melodies man....good melodies to sing
guitar that takes you places....not crappy riffs or the same old chord changes
bass lines you can actually feel and hear
drums that do more than 2 and 4
some good recording and production would be nice
the ability to back it up live
in general: great songwriting by musicians who know what they're doing and don't sound like korn.
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I'll tell you man....(or woman):


melodies man....good melodies to sing
guitar that takes you places....not crappy riffs or the same old chord changes
bass lines you can actually feel and hear
drums that do more than 2 and 4
some good recording and production would be nice
the ability to back it up live
in general: great songwriting by musicians who know what they're doing and don't sound like korn.
Didn't I recommend some bands on some other thread you created??
Check those bands out and tell me if they fit your criteria
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Old 10-14-2003, 11:47 PM   #25
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been away a couple days.....


will do and thank you.
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been away a couple days.....


will do and thank you.
I forgot to mention Paradise Lost, probably one of the most underrated band's of the 90's. Highly recommended
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Old 10-15-2003, 12:24 AM   #27
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Rock will always live as long as there are Zeppelin and Floyd fans around. Personally I can't stand either of them (well maybe not can't stand, but they're not really my scene at all), but those two are/were the biggest bands in the world, and people will always be passing their records down to their kids.
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Back in the fold...

Long Live Rock, I live it every night,
Long Live Rock, Come on and join the fight,
Long Live Rock, Be It Dead Or Alive...

Listen To Mr. Townshend, for it is pure and easy.

We Don't Get Fooled Again...

~the whiz.

Rock is Dead they say... Long Live Rock!
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Old 10-15-2003, 01:09 AM   #29
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I'll tell you man....(or woman):


melodies man....good melodies to sing
guitar that takes you places....not crappy riffs or the same old chord changes
bass lines you can actually feel and hear
drums that do more than 2 and 4
some good recording and production would be nice
the ability to back it up live
in general: great songwriting by musicians who know what they're doing and don't sound like korn.
ATHLETE
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I live in a small town in the Midwest, and even here the teens/20-somethings seem to be way more into rap than rock - at least judging from what I hear blaring out of open car windows. And I honestly don't see very many rock bands out there that masses of young people can identify with in the intense way that past generations identified with The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, U2 or Nirvana. Sure, there's Radiohead, but it's hard to imagine them ever having more than cult following (OK, a pretty big cult following, but they simply are not household names out here in flyover land).
*Nods*

That's the case for the most part over here. A lot of kids at my old school who did listen to rock music listened to Bob Dylan and Jimi Hendrix and AC/DC and them, or they listened to DMB and Radiohead.

And if you didn't listen to that stuff, you were either listening to rap or country instead.

That being said, I don't think rock is dead. I think basically what BonoVoxSupastar said is true-there are some good rock artists out there now (I hear them on the Progressive DMX channel and things along that line), but they just aren't being played on MTV and places like that because they don't fit a certain label, they don't have the look.

BonoVox's post also looked very bleak-yeah, Clear Channel's definitely screwed things up big time with radio. And it's sad, but true, labels do hold the power nowadays.

However, considering how many people have started to stop listening to radio over time because of things like that satelite radio and stuff along that line, that introduces a whole new way of listening to music will come about, where labels won't be a problem, and things like Clear Channel will fall apart, and maybe then we'll be able to enjoy the truly good rock music without having to worry about formats or labels or things along that line. And then rock won't seem so dead anymore to people, because they will finally get to hear some of the really good rock music being made nowadays.

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ROCK&ROLL!
im putting a rock band together, so if you like good rock music, ex led zeppelin, gnr, rolling stones, u2 et and like good looking guys then stay tuned.
any Groupies?
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there is not yet someone who might carry the baton to a new generation. Coldplay maybe,

I'd love to here any comments, criticism etc. about this.
You probably won't love to hear my comments and criticism, and I'm going to get flamed, but this is how I see it:

If COLDPLAY is the next generation of rock, then yes, rock is truly dead and may it rest in peace. They do not rock. Okay, so they're very popular here and so many of you love them, fine. But they do not rock. They are a soft rock, piano oriented in a Barry Manilow way, boring, slow band.

My local radio stations and cd stores put them in the same category as Matchbox 20 and Train, and I agree! They are called "mellow" and "new adult contemporary."

I also can't understand why they are called a band with something to say. "Look at the stars, see how they shine for you, and they were all yellow too!" "Closing doors and ticking clocks, you, are" I've heard hair metal and rap with more meaningful lyrics. Again, don't flame, if you like them it's your business people. But ROCK? Noooo. Saviors of rock? I don't see how. They are not rock, and that is not just my opinion, or the stations and stores would not see them as Matchbox 20 and Train contemporaries, which, even if you don't want to hear it, they are!
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whatever happened to my rock and roll? - black rebel motorcycle club

seriously there are many great bands out there.

brmc is one
the manics of course
super furry animals
athlete!
ash
placebo
suede (okaaaay to an extent)
belle & sebastian
idlewild
pretty girls make graves
the new pornographers

i'm more excited for music this year than i was in 2001.
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BRMC is good stuff
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Old 10-15-2003, 01:19 PM   #35
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Despite your cheerful optimism, Rock is dead and stays dead.

Don´t forget the 80s. What we think to be rock nowadays is just a retro thang. There´s music that rocks, sure. But the spirit of Rock is dead as ever.

I do consider Bono to be 100% of rock, though.
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There are a lot of great bands out there, but I agree with HipHop. Rock died a long time ago. And I like it like that.

*kicks rock while it's down
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There are a lot of great bands out there, but I agree with HipHop. Rock died a long time ago. And I like it like that.

*kicks rock while it's down
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I think if you're waiting for the rock music to come to you, then yes, rock is dead. But if you're willing to search it out, there is some great rock and roll out there--music that has both the sound and spirit of rock. Yertle is on to something...if you want Rock, take a good listen to Placebo, Manic Street Preachers, Idlewild (thanks, mofo!), Radiohead, Stereophonics, Oasis, or tons of other rock bands that are out there rocking their asses off. The only difference is that the industry is so streamlined you're only going to hear what they want you to buy, and the chances of that being good music are slim to none.

I for one do not think rock is dead. It's just hiding out in some very cool places, including my CD collection.
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I think if you're waiting for the rock music to come to you, then yes, rock is dead. But if you're willing to search it out, there is some great rock and roll out there--music that has both the sound and spirit of rock. Yertle is on to something...if you want Rock, take a good listen to Placebo, Manic Street Preachers, Idlewild (thanks, mofo!), Radiohead, Stereophonics, Oasis, or tons of other rock bands that are out there rocking their asses off. The only difference is that the industry is so streamlined you're only going to hear what they want you to buy, and the chances of that being good music are slim to none.

I for one do not think rock is dead. It's just hiding out in some very cool places, including my CD collection.
I agree. Wasn't there once a time when mainstream rock band were good?
Like back in the 80's early 90's cool bands like The Cult, Stone Roses, GnR, U2, Def Leppard, etc. where bands that were mainstream but good? Those days are so far away now. Because now is crap.
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im putting a rock band together, so if you like good rock music, ex led zeppelin, gnr, rolling stones, u2 et and like good looking guys then stay tuned.
any Groupies?
Need a mediocre rhythm guitar player?

Dueling guitars ala Dickinson and Maiden?

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