In the words of Kramer: "I'M OUT." - Page 2

randhail · 08-01-2005, 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by Sicy
People cant leave this site. I dont care what they say. And I'm willing to bet money that he wont leave unless he's banned. No one ever can.

That's a fairly pompous statement to make.

Palace_Hero · 08-01-2005, 10:16 AM

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Originally posted by HelloAngel

Anyone who works on this site has a right to be sore due to all the times we get unceremoniously kicked in the head on a daily basis due to various things and misunderstandings.

Harsh? No. Just expressing myself how I see fit. And no, I didn't put words in his mouth. My words around here don't really matter, and I certainly don't think they do more than anyone elses.

I beg to differ. I feel a great deal of weight is placed on your (and your peer's) words, as I have come to realise recently. I certainly feel that others could take a negative stance on blahblahblah by taking a lead from your disapproval.

Just as blahblahblah is free to leave or buy a membership if he doesn't like his status, you are equally so free to quit your moderator position if it causes you such hassle.

Palace_Hero · 08-01-2005, 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by randhail

That's a fairly pompous statement to make.

I'd replace "pompous" with "tounge in cheek" and you might be closer to the truth.

**Sicy** · 08-01-2005, 10:20 AM

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Originally posted by randhail
That's a fairly pompous statement to make.

I'm sorry, I've been here for almost 5 years, how bout you?

It's a pretty much a fact.

BAW · 08-01-2005, 10:24 AM

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Originally posted by randhail

That's a fairly pompous statement to make.

It's not a pompous statement at all, its a true statement. In the 4 years I've been here, I can't even tell you how many people have started a thread exactly like this one, only to be back a few days or sometimes weeks later. Sometimes it only lasts a few hours. People who go to great lengths to get themselves banned usually end up begging to come back or sneak back in with an alter.

HelloAngel · 08-01-2005, 10:32 AM

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Originally posted by Palace_Hero

I beg to differ. I feel a great deal of weight is placed on your (and your peer's) words, as I have come to realise recently. I certainly feel that others could take a negative stance on blahblahblah by taking a lead from your disapproval.

Just as blahblahblah is free to leave or buy a membership if he doesn't like his status, you are equally so free to quit your moderator position if it causes you such hassle.

I apologize if I came across that way. I have nothing against blahblahblah as a person or forum member. However it is possible to disagree and/or dislike something someone says rather than disliking the person. I don't wish to invite ire towards blahblahblah at all. He has every right to express himself and his aggravations against the forum and site. He made some valid criticisms, and suggestions on how to improve paid memberships are always welcome.

I can't simply walk away from something I made a commitment to 4 years ago to the fans. Keeping the main site (not the forum) fresh along with the zine takes time and energy and love and I am glad to do it. I do however, have a right to comment when things are said that are not accurate or true that people choose to continue to believe.

Palace_Hero · 08-01-2005, 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by HelloAngel

I apologize if I came across that way. I have nothing against blahblahblah as a person or forum member. However it is possible to disagree and/or dislike something someone says rather than disliking the person. I don't wish to invite ire towards blahblahblah at all. He has every right to express himself and his aggravations against the forum and site. He made some valid criticisms, and suggestions on how to improve paid memberships are always welcome.

I can't simply walk away from something I made a commitment to 4 years ago to the fans. Keeping the main site (not the forum) fresh along with the zine takes time and energy and love and I am glad to do it. I do however, have a right to comment when things are said that are not accurate or true that people choose to continue to believe.

All that you have just said I do understand and was aware of. I'm glad you said it to because to me it came across in your first post that you were blowing off steam and I think this post confirms that to me.

Don't think for a second I was trying to encourage you to leave, you're one mod in particular I have noticed that does a top job and is very professional. Interference is richer for it.

Mullen4Prez · 08-01-2005, 01:14 PM

Unzips zipper and pisses on interference. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FREEEEEEDOM!!!!!!!!!

indra · 08-01-2005, 01:15 PM

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Originally posted by Sicy
People cant leave this site. I dont care what they say. And I'm willing to bet money that he wont leave unless he's banned. No one ever can.

It's true.

When I first came here I didn't expect to post much or to stay long -- 18 months and 4417 posts later, I'm still here.

doctorwho · 08-01-2005, 01:18 PM

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Originally posted by Sicy

I'm sorry, I've been here for almost 5 years, how bout you?

It's a pretty much a fact.

It's true, people do leave and return...

However, I have noticed that those returning are not the same as they once were (which can be a good thing). The goals of the returning person are not the same as the reasons he/she had for originally joining Interference, which was often a sense of community. Sadly, that is often lost once a person leaves.

That said, I applaud the mods/admins here. There was a time when I could not say this, but I now feel that Interference has become one of the best U2 fan sites, with mods who are supportive, courteous and helpful. It's little wonder, then, that some mods here are offended by the comments written by the original poster.

pax · 08-01-2005, 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by doctorwho

The goals of the returning person are not the same as the reasons he/she had for originally joining Interference, which was often a sense of community. Sadly, that is often lost once a person leaves.

That's what makes me the saddest about this place these days, much as I still love it...it's that too many of the noobs don't want a community. They want someplace where they can participate in popularity contests, make fun of people they don't know without any repercussion, and basically draw attention to themselves. They have no interest in building community; they don't care about the feelings of longtime members; they are inconsiderate, disrespectful, and just plain annoying.

Now, is this anyone who joined after I did? No, of course not. New blood is wonderful, and lots of newer members still bring fun, positivity, and kindness to Interference. I like quite a few of the newer members. But the nice-people-to-jackasses ratio is getting uncomfortably low, I fear. It didn't used to be this way.

Every forum will always have people who just want to spoil things for others. But I'm afraid that too few people here care about being a community anymore.

And that's sad.

Popmartijn · 08-01-2005, 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by Infinitum98
what edge incident?

http://forum.interference.com/t99316.html

indra · 08-01-2005, 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by doctorwho

It's true, people do leave and return...

However, I have noticed that those returning are not the same as they once were (which can be a good thing). The goals of the returning person are not the same as the reasons he/she had for originally joining Interference, which was often a sense of community. Sadly, that is often lost once a person leaves.

Do you think people join for the sense of community, or do they get that once they are here? I didn't feel any great sense of community when I joined...more of a "wow! lot's of threads to post in and things to discuss here" feeling. The people I've gotten to know (a bit) and enjoy came later. Maybe I'm just odd.

pax · 08-01-2005, 01:29 PM

One more thing that I didn't make clear in my original post...while the mods can try to encourage community-building to some extent, it's a hard job when the community doesn't necessarily respond. I don't wish to blame the mods for this; I blame members who are variously averse to community-building, judging from their posts.

popacrobat · 08-01-2005, 01:31 PM

hey as long as were bringing up 'fake edge',

at least he was right about electric co and zoo station coming back

doctorwho · 08-01-2005, 01:38 PM

The sense of community doesn't have to come right away, but it's always great seeing fellow U2 fans respond to your words - knowing that you aren't alone in your views.

Unfortunately, there was a time that I felt the mods actually hurt this feeling of community. The mods sometimes hurt more than helped, which broke the sense of community.

But those events occurred years ago. I don't see this behavior from the mods at present in any capacity. Rather, I find all mods to be very responsive and receptive to suggestions. I feel that they are professional and courteous. It's because they are trying so hard that I feel some of them were hurt by this thread.

The community, of course, is what one makes of it... but those who leave usually do not return for that feeling of community any more. They (we) tend to return to gather information and tend to post on vastly different topics than they once did. At least these are my observations.

beegee · 08-01-2005, 01:57 PM

i happen to know (and miss) someone who did, indeed, leave. and while i know for a fact that this person still reads my journal, i know they will never post again.

of that i am sure.

cass · 08-01-2005, 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by Sicy

I'm sorry, I've been here for almost 5 years, how bout you?
It's a pretty much a fact.

I was trying to recall when I arrived

I think it might have just been the anniversary? August 1st 2000?the horse's birthday. Now that really is 5 years

that may not be a fact, just a guess.

As beegee just said , I know and miss quite a few of the old regulars who lost faith in this place and moved elsewhere.I suppose that is why I am still here, lost in the corridors hoping they might return. But I doubt they will.

So I suppose I should be careful not to let that famous door hit me on the way out.
Take care blahblahblah, I'm sorry you have been made to feel that way.
Please if you feel differently at some later point, come ye back

Viva U2

Zoomerang96 · 08-01-2005, 04:35 PM

blahblah, i don't think many people know who you are, nor will you be missed.

you're point isn't taken.

you signed up AFTER all these fees came into place, you knew that going in. you have no reason to complain.

goodbye, and please don't come back.

Zoots · 08-01-2005, 04:54 PM

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Originally posted by indra

Do you think people join for the sense of community, or do they get that once they are here? I didn't feel any great sense of community when I joined...more of a "wow! lot's of threads to post in and things to discuss here" feeling. The people I've gotten to know (a bit) and enjoy came later. Maybe I'm just odd.

I agree completely. The more you post, the more you find people who share your opinions and make friends. This place is good fun. And $12 really isn't much. It's the price of an evening at the movies plus some popcorn. I don't understand why blahblahblah feels the way he does. Too bad, he was a pretty cool guy otherwise.

PS: And Sicy is right. This place does pull you in. I took a break from this site when I went on vacation. Couldn't wait to log back in when I got back. It's addictive!

08-01-2005, 01:29 PM	#34
pax ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Ewen's new American home Posts: 11,412 Local Time: 06:42 PM	One more thing that I didn't make clear in my original post...while the mods can try to encourage community-building to some extent, it's a hard job when the community doesn't necessarily respond. I don't wish to blame the mods for this; I blame members who are variously averse to community-building, judging from their posts. __________________ and you hunger for the time time to heal, desire, time Join Amnesty.

08-01-2005, 01:38 PM	#36
doctorwho Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: My TARDIS - currently located in Valparaiso, IN Posts: 6,361 Local Time: 02:42 PM	The sense of community doesn't have to come right away, but it's always great seeing fellow U2 fans respond to your words - knowing that you aren't alone in your views. Unfortunately, there was a time that I felt the mods actually hurt this feeling of community. The mods sometimes hurt more than helped, which broke the sense of community. But those events occurred years ago. I don't see this behavior from the mods at present in any capacity. Rather, I find all mods to be very responsive and receptive to suggestions. I feel that they are professional and courteous. It's because they are trying so hard that I feel some of them were hurt by this thread. The community, of course, is what one makes of it... but those who leave usually do not return for that feeling of community any more. They (we) tend to return to gather information and tend to post on vastly different topics than they once did. At least these are my observations. __________________ *I always wanted to be somebody, but I should have been more specific.*

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08-01-2005, 01:14 PM	#28
Mullen4Prez Banned Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Great Beyond// Posts: 8,637 Local Time: 10:42 PM	Unzips zipper and pisses on interference. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FREEEEEEDOM!!!!!!!!!

08-01-2005, 01:31 PM	#35
popacrobat Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: this house Posts: 9,866 Local Time: 06:42 PM	hey as long as were bringing up 'fake edge', at least he was right about electric co and zoo station coming back

08-01-2005, 01:57 PM	#37
beegee Neon Zebra Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: southern nevada Posts: 10,609 Local Time: 02:42 PM	i happen to know (and miss) someone who did, indeed, leave. and while i know for a fact that this person still reads my journal, i know they will never post again. of that i am sure.

08-01-2005, 04:35 PM	#39
Zoomerang96 ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: canada Posts: 13,462 Local Time: 05:42 PM	blahblah, i don't think many people know who you are, nor will you be missed. you're point isn't taken. you signed up AFTER all these fees came into place, you knew that going in. you have no reason to complain. goodbye, and please don't come back.