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Old 06-21-2005, 06:52 AM   #81
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Old 06-21-2005, 08:46 AM   #82
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American Baby has got a good groove. There's some good crunchy guitar after the "Stay" parts. The wind up toy box thing is overused, but it's an homage to U2's Stay. At least, DMB has good taste.
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Old 06-21-2005, 09:02 AM   #83
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Also, I suppose I always get a bit annoyed when people talk trash about musicians who at least seem to be decent human beings. DMB has been involved with charitable causes from its outset, so there's a U2 parallel here (DMB tends to be more involved in environmental and educational causes, but whatever), and, again like U2, you have a band composed of guys who remain (well, maybe with the exception of Bono, LOL) humble, down-to-earth, and genuinely grateful for their success. They're family men who preside over concerts that are generally peaceful and low-key (drinking and smoking pot aside). And, like U2, they see that the fans get a good bang for their concert buck--the last time I saw them, they played for nearly three hours and frequently bantered happily with the crowd.

You don't have to like their music or anything, but man, no need to be so harsh about the individual human beings.
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Also, I suppose I always get a bit annoyed when people talk trash about musicians who at least seem to be decent human beings. DMB has been involved with charitable causes from its outset, so there's a U2 parallel here (DMB tends to be more involved in environmental and educational causes, but whatever), and, again like U2, you have a band composed of guys who remain (well, maybe with the exception of Bono, LOL) humble, down-to-earth, and genuinely grateful for their success. They're family men who preside over concerts that are generally peaceful and low-key (drinking and smoking pot aside). And, like U2, they see that the fans get a good bang for their concert buck--the last time I saw them, they played for nearly three hours and frequently bantered happily with the crowd.

You don't have to like their music or anything, but man, no need to be so harsh about the individual human beings.

Great post, I completely agree.
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I agree with the human beings thing. I'm sure they're great guys and nice fellows and all that jazz. I still think someone should burn down their stuido or something to keep them from recording any more.
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You don't have to like their music or anything, but man, no need to be so harsh about the individual human beings.
Not to mention that some of the opinions in this thread are really rude and disrespectful to people who like their music.

People should really think about the possible replies they get for the threads they start before they hit the submit button.
I was going to start a thread called "Bono needs to get his weave redone," ya know cuz it's my opinion, and if some of the arguments in this thread were true, I wouldn't be bombarded with nasty replies if I did.
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I particularly enjoyed when their tour bus dumped poop on people in Chicago last summer. Ok, maybe I just wanted to say poop because poop is such a good word.
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Excellent posts from HeartlandGirl and pax

And I agree with zoney and DiGi and everyone else who thinks "I hate" threads are useless.

To add to what pax said, even if you don't like their music, DMB are worthy of respect for their musicianship alone. There is a lot of music out there that I don't particularly like but it's obvious the musicians are talented even if it's not what I want to listen to. I just don't get why people need to express 'hatred' for people who are just doing their thing, having fun, who are in a niche all their own, and whose music makes a lot of people extremely happy. DMB have a wonderful connection with their fans and as pax also said, are really great people. I am not a huge fan but have enjoyed the two DMB shows I've seen, really love a few songs, and one thing I really enjoyed was the spirit of the band, their connectedness, the sheer joy and chemistry they obviously experience when they play together. The jam band thing isn't really my thing but I really love DM's solo stuff and hearing him play guitar. I've also read that Dave's band are the highest paid touring musicians out there--although it's Dave's band he views them as equals and compensates them accordingly. You don't have to like the music to appreciate their musical and personal integrity and, again, their excellent musicianship.

The suggestion that someone should burn down a band's studio just because you don't like their music is, frankly, immature and ridiculous. I suppose I should just take the comment with a grain of salt yet it's sad to me that so-called music fans cannot appreciate the fact that there is something out there for everyone and that there are people for whom DMB's music means the world to them, just like U2 might mean to you. Why would you want to deny someone that enjoyment just because you don't like it?

To echo HeartlandGirl's sentiments, why not engage in an intelligent critique of their music rather than this ridiculous bullshit of "I hate it, therefore they shouldn't be allowed to record."

And I don't want to ignore this thread either. I think it's an important discussion. As HG pointed out, many of us have been coming in here for years and it's disheartening to see what used to be a forum of intelligent discussions being reduced too often to a list of what people hate with no real thought put into the posts.
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But seriously, thank you for saying what you did. I am in complete agreement.
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I particularly enjoyed when their tour bus dumped poop on people in Chicago last summer.
By the way, the bus driver admitted guilt and was fired by the band immediately. The band obviously was not involved in the incident and has since donated $50,000 to the Friends of the Chicago River and $50,000 to the Chicago Park District.
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By the way, the bus driver admitted guilt and was fired by the band immediately. The band obviously was not involved in the incident and has since donated $50,000 to the Friends of the Chicago River and $50,000 to the Chicago Park District.
I know the band technically wasn't directly involved, but it was their poop.
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I know the band technically wasn't directly involved, but it was their poop.
...and?
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well I'm guessing Boyd can probably drop some really sick dueces.

Forgive me for not delving deep in my posts here, I just enjoy the poop story and can blame from freshman year roommate for my anti-DMB stance. I'll go stand in the corner now.
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I'll go stand in the corner now.
Ok, as long as you're clear on your place I'll drop it.
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i guess i can understand the dislikeness for DMB, where i went to college no one ever mentioned DMB or played their music but just about everyone and their mother had Bob Marley and i cant stand Bob marley whatsoever because of that
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dmb is irrelavant
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My response had to do only with the unitelligent post that you made to start this thread. If you do not like them, thats great. No one said you had to. I certainly do not like Britney Spears, but I do not start threads titled I hate Britney because she has a big fake set of tata's. An argument which would parallel the complete foolishness of your opening argument below.

"Dave Matthews has the most boring voice ever. Just one line from American Baby is stuck in my head! I can't stand it, I hate this song and the band!!!!!!! "

Well thought out and informed. If I needed a trial lawyer I would hire you for the sheer brilliance in your argument. Maybe you could instead tell us about a band that few of us have heard of so we could listen to something new.
I wasn't trying to scientifically prove DMB sucks. I was just stating my opinion. When I started this thread, I was speaking of the moment, because at that time, I was really sick of that song and the band. So let be clear, I am not saying that just because I hate DMB, everyone else has to.

Also, to comment on pax's post...I never said I hate Dave Matthews or any of his band members personally. When I said I hate DMB, I was talking about them as a band.
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