Has Michael Jackson's inescapable weirdness changed the way you listen to his music?

namkcuR · 07-31-2005, 02:03 PM

If you never liked MJ's music to begin with, you probably still don't like it. But if you ever liked or even loved his music, here's the question: Has his inescapable weirdness and eternal state of messed-up-ness effected the way you listen to his music? Or even your ability to listen to his music at all? Does it depend on the album/song? Or can you listen/not listen to any of it? I'm interested in seeing how MJ's ever-so-public and ever-so-disturbing problems have effected the way people listen to his music.

Zoots · 07-31-2005, 02:11 PM

I can still listen to Dangerous like it's 1992. I lost interest after the bloated and egotistic HIStory and haven't heard anything since... well, with the exception of Blood On The Dance Floor and Ghosts. But I don't think that had anything to do with his child molestation charges or his general weirdness.

namkcuR · 07-31-2005, 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by Zootlesque
I can still listen to Dangerous like it's 1992. I lost interest after the bloated and egotistic HIStory and haven't heard anything since... well, with the exception of Blood On The Dance Floor and Ghosts. But I don't think that had anything to do with his child molestation charges or his general weirdness.

What about the older stuff - Thriller and Bad?

So you haven't heard his most recent record from three years ago entitled 'Invincible'? It's not very good. There were a few good tracks on History's disc of new material, but Dangerous was really his last great effort.

Zoots · 07-31-2005, 02:17 PM

Oh yeah, I love Thriller, Bad and Dangerous! Haven't heard much of Off The Wall except for the 2 big hits. As for Invincible... geez! what a title!

I saw that first video with Chris Rock I think and that song sucked so bad that I did not even bother with anything else from the album.

Okay, so he was the shiznit in the 80s and even the early 90s. But I guess all the 'king of pop' stuff went to his head.

typhoon · 07-31-2005, 02:20 PM

It's the new generation gap. If you can remember when Michael Jackson was actually famous for being a pop star and not just famous for being famous and weird, line up over here. If you can't, line up over there.

MsMofoGone · 07-31-2005, 02:25 PM

The only music I've ever listened to from Michael Jackson was indeed his Thriller album ... absolutely MAGNIFICENT album !!

I would occasionally listen to Thriller even now, no matter what has happened ... but I don't care for any of his other music / albums !!

shaun vox · 07-31-2005, 02:25 PM

MJ

typhoon · 07-31-2005, 02:26 PM

Oh, and: he's WHITE. He used to be BLACK.

THAT'S NOT NORMAL.

WHY ISN'T A BIGGER DEAL MADE OF THIS?

Moonlit_Angel · 07-31-2005, 03:20 PM

I don't actually own any of his albums-too young when he was big in the 80s and early 90s for one thing, and for another, I've just never been all that into a great deal of his music to begin with, personally. Just like the occasional song here and there. But I can still listen to those few songs I like without automatically thinking of the strange stuff Michael's been through over the years (heh, and one of his songs, whenever I hear it now, makes me think of a version an artist I do like did, so...

).

Angela

Angela Harlem · 07-31-2005, 03:38 PM

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Originally posted by typhoon
Oh, and: he's WHITE. He used to be BLACK.

THAT'S NOT NORMAL.

WHY ISN'T A BIGGER DEAL MADE OF THIS?

Because not everyone gives a flying fuck what colour someone is.

What's happened to him in recent years has no influence at all beyond me wishing he'd never lost his hold on himself. The Thriller and Bad eras were incredible and I am a rather definite fan of it. Daggy, I know

But there you have it. I find it impossible to not listen to songs like Smooth Criminal, Dirty Diana, Thriller, any of them, and not be blown away by how utterly perfect he had it all mastered. The man is a fucking genius. He might be a plethora of other things, but his musical genius carries on.

indra · 07-31-2005, 03:49 PM

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Originally posted by Angela Harlem

Because not everyone gives a flying fuck what colour someone is.

The sad thing is it appears that Michael Jackson gives a flying fuck what colour he is.

BrownEyedBoy · 07-31-2005, 03:52 PM

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Originally posted by Angela Harlem

Because not everyone gives a flying fuck what colour someone is.

...

typhoon · 07-31-2005, 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by Angela Harlem
Because not everyone gives a flying fuck what colour someone is.

It's not the color so much as the BIZARRE, UNEXPLAINED TRANSITION that's unusual. Keep your politically correct rolleyes smilies to yourself. If Bono turned up black tomorrow, you'd find it a little odd too (his work in Africa notwithstanding).

Zoots · 07-31-2005, 04:35 PM

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Originally posted by typhoon

It's not the color so much as the BIZARRE, UNEXPLAINED TRANSITION that's unusual. Keep your politically correct rolleyes smilies to yourself. If Bono turned up black tomorrow, you'd find it a little odd too (his work in Africa notwithstanding).

Yeah, I agree. There wasn't even anything politically incorrect in your original post.

BonosSaint · 07-31-2005, 04:48 PM

Michael Jackson was incredible in some of his music and I can still listen to the songs I liked, watch the videos I liked. Sometimes you just have to separate the artist from the art. That being said, he is one strange mother.

Layton · 07-31-2005, 04:59 PM

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Originally posted by Zootlesque
I can still listen to Dangerous like it's 1992.

I'd keep that a secret if I were you.

Zoots · 07-31-2005, 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by Layton

I'd keep that a secret if I were you.

Hey man! You have no idea how much of a nostalgia nut I am! The album came out when I was 13 and at the time, I thought it was the greatest album of all time.

LMP · 07-31-2005, 05:23 PM

I used to be able to listen to him Bad and beyond when the whiteness was soaking in, but not I can only tolerate everything Pre-Thriller (Including Thriller)

I'm not a pop fan by all means of the word (except the album

) but Thriller is the greatest Pop record of all time

Se7en · 07-31-2005, 05:25 PM

stand tall zoot alors, dangerous is the shit!

so is most of his 80s material.

it'll always be awesome...even if he's insane...

Zoots · 07-31-2005, 05:26 PM

07-31-2005, 02:03 PM	#1
namkcuR ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Kettering, Ohio Posts: 10,685 Local Time: 06:41 PM	Has Michael Jackson's inescapable weirdness changed the way you listen to his music? If you never liked MJ's music to begin with, you probably still don't like it. But if you ever liked or even loved his music, here's the question: Has his inescapable weirdness and eternal state of messed-up-ness effected the way you listen to his music? Or even your ability to listen to his music at all? Does it depend on the album/song? Or can you listen/not listen to any of it? I'm interested in seeing how MJ's ever-so-public and ever-so-disturbing problems have effected the way people listen to his music. __________________

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Zoots Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: the great beyond Posts: 36,802 Local Time: 01:41 AM	I can still listen to Dangerous like it's 1992. I lost interest after the bloated and egotistic HIStory and haven't heard anything since... well, with the exception of Blood On The Dance Floor and Ghosts. But I don't think that had anything to do with his child molestation charges or his general weirdness. __________________

07-31-2005, 03:20 PM	#9
Moonlit_Angel Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: In a dimension known as the Twilight Zone...do de doo doo, do de doo doo... Posts: 20,640 Local Time: 05:41 PM	I don't actually own any of his albums-too young when he was big in the 80s and early 90s for one thing, and for another, I've just never been all that into a great deal of his music to begin with, personally. Just like the occasional song here and there. But I can still listen to those few songs I like without automatically thinking of the strange stuff Michael's been through over the years (heh, and one of his songs, whenever I hear it now, makes me think of a version an artist I do like did, so...). Angela

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07-31-2005, 02:17 PM	#4
Zoots Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: the great beyond Posts: 36,802 Local Time: 01:41 AM	Oh yeah, I love Thriller, Bad and Dangerous! Haven't heard much of Off The Wall except for the 2 big hits. As for Invincible... geez! what a title! I saw that first video with Chris Rock I think and that song sucked so bad that I did not even bother with anything else from the album. Okay, so he was the shiznit in the 80s and even the early 90s. But I guess all the 'king of pop' stuff went to his head.

07-31-2005, 02:20 PM	#5
typhoon New Yorker Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 3,020 Local Time: 04:41 PM	It's the new generation gap. If you can remember when Michael Jackson was actually famous for being a pop star and not just famous for being famous and weird, line up over here. If you can't, line up over there.

07-31-2005, 02:25 PM	#6
MsMofoGone Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Where is not important... Posts: 26,742 Local Time: 05:41 PM	The only music I've ever listened to from Michael Jackson was indeed his Thriller album ... absolutely MAGNIFICENT album !! I would occasionally listen to Thriller even now, no matter what has happened ... but I don't care for any of his other music / albums !!

07-31-2005, 02:25 PM	#7
shaun vox New Yorker Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: LA.cal ROCKnRoll city! Posts: 3,192 Local Time: 11:41 PM	MJ

07-31-2005, 02:26 PM	#8
typhoon New Yorker Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 3,020 Local Time: 04:41 PM	Oh, and: he's WHITE. He used to be BLACK. THAT'S NOT NORMAL. WHY ISN'T A BIGGER DEAL MADE OF THIS?

07-31-2005, 04:48 PM	#15
BonosSaint Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 3,566 Local Time: 07:41 PM	Michael Jackson was incredible in some of his music and I can still listen to the songs I liked, watch the videos I liked. Sometimes you just have to separate the artist from the art. That being said, he is one strange mother.

07-31-2005, 05:23 PM	#18
LMP Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 37,609 Local Time: 05:41 PM	I used to be able to listen to him Bad and beyond when the whiteness was soaking in, but not I can only tolerate everything Pre-Thriller (Including Thriller) I'm not a pop fan by all means of the word (except the album ) but Thriller is the greatest Pop record of all time

07-31-2005, 05:25 PM	#19
Se7en Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: all around in the dark - everywhere Posts: 3,531 Local Time: 06:41 PM	stand tall zoot alors, dangerous is the shit! so is most of his 80s material. it'll always be awesome...even if he's insane...