Has Greed Killed Television?

beli · 07-03-2005, 08:38 PM

Live8 is still yet to be broadcast in my city due to Wimbledon tennis coverage. I'm guessing there's more money in broadcasting Wimbledon from advertisers long ago paid up adverts. From what I hear of the USA broadcast the show was continuously interrupted by adverts and TV hosts full of themselves, preferring to broadcast themselves than the musicians. The Dutch broadcast has also received bad reviews.

I recall Live Aid, watching most of the show, very few adverts, very few interruptions.

What has changed in 20 years that it is now longer possible for the world to unite and simultaneously view/participate in the same experience on television?

The internet broadcast, despite it glitches, appear to have run in a smoother, more egalitarian fashion. Many people watched Live 8 over the internet. Is this the way forward? Is television dead?

MissVelvetDress_75 · 07-03-2005, 08:43 PM

yes

DaveC · 07-03-2005, 08:45 PM

trevster2k · 07-03-2005, 08:57 PM

I spend more time with my PC then the TV. And when I watch TV it is usually my small one, the big one is only for DVDs.

Se7en · 07-03-2005, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by trevster2k
I spend more time with my [mac] then the TV.

indra · 07-03-2005, 10:00 PM

yes I think greed has ruined TV. That's also why the dreadful reality craze has taken over too. "Reality" programs are cheap to produce.

the rockin edge · 07-03-2005, 10:08 PM

greed ruins lots of things/people

Halifax · 07-03-2005, 11:20 PM

Greed destroys art. Greed destroys everything it touches. There's a reason why its one of the seven deadly sins.

MrBrau1 · 07-03-2005, 11:28 PM

Greed is good.

bono_man2002 · 07-03-2005, 11:29 PM

Wasn't Live Aid dropped by all the 3 TV networks in Australia, then the ABC got it?
Therefore, being on ABC..there should have been no adds.

typhoon · 07-03-2005, 11:32 PM

TV can't die soon enough.

yertle-the-turtle · 07-04-2005, 12:11 AM

The thing is I think the network already has a commitment to broadcast Wimbledon each year, and the Live 8 thing was relatively new.

I thought the coverage on Singapore was good, it was available only on cable though (although if you didn't have cable you could head down to this restaurant/pub area where they had five giant screens to show the thing). I had no idea where they were getting the feed from but while they did cut to commercial every hour or so, they broadcast the show on two channels - one main channel and one channel where you can send text messages and stuff like that - so whenever a commercial came I just switched over and followed it from there. The only performance completely blacked out was Snoop Dogg, I'm guessing the cable operator was freaking with the amount of f-words all over the place and Snoop was a good bet to drop a few more! Otherwise I didn't get to see everybody and they weren't all complete performances (Travis, for instance, or REM) but no-one was cut off mid-song.

That said to answer your original question, yeah, probably.

Lila64 · 07-04-2005, 01:15 AM

TV =

(especially M-TV and VH1!)

nbcrusader · 07-04-2005, 02:05 AM

Was TV ever alive? It has always been a commercial enterprise. Even the earliest shows where sponsored.

beli · 07-04-2005, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bono_man2002
Wasn't Live Aid dropped by all the 3 TV networks in Australia, then the ABC got it?
Therefore, being on ABC..there should have been no adds.

There were no Australian ads but we got bit of USA ads and bits of USA hosts blathering. Not a lot, but a little bit.

myusernamehere · 07-04-2005, 03:54 AM

I caught the tail end of it...it was mostly just recaps where they showed 20 blips of different performers. Here's what I saw

VJ babbling
Commercial
VJ/ PSA
Commercial
VJ
Green Day
VJ
Commercial
Green Day
Commercial
VJ
PSA
U2 and Paul Mc-ooops Commercial
VJ
Will Sm--oops VJ
Commercial
Green Day

Cassis · 07-04-2005, 11:43 AM

AllIWantIs · 07-04-2005, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lila64
TV = (especially M-TV and VH1!)

I can't agree more and someone has an item up on ebay in regards to how they feel about MTV/VH1:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW

dandy · 07-04-2005, 03:10 PM

yes, beli, i'm afraid greed killed tv quite some time ago.

DaveC · 07-04-2005, 03:17 PM

Yeah, Greed was a terrible game show, wasn't it? Damn Chuck Woolery.

07-03-2005, 08:38 PM	#1
beli Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: In a frock in Western Australia Posts: 15,464 Local Time: 06:59 PM	Has Greed Killed Television? Live8 is still yet to be broadcast in my city due to Wimbledon tennis coverage. I'm guessing there's more money in broadcasting Wimbledon from advertisers long ago paid up adverts. From what I hear of the USA broadcast the show was continuously interrupted by adverts and TV hosts full of themselves, preferring to broadcast themselves than the musicians. The Dutch broadcast has also received bad reviews. I recall Live Aid, watching most of the show, very few adverts, very few interruptions. What has changed in 20 years that it is now longer possible for the world to unite and simultaneously view/participate in the same experience on television? The internet broadcast, despite it glitches, appear to have run in a smoother, more egalitarian fashion. Many people watched Live 8 over the internet. Is this the way forward? Is television dead? __________________

07-03-2005, 08:43 PM	#2
MissVelvetDress_75 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: basking in my post-concert glow still mesmerized by the orbit of his hips..Also Holding Bono Close as he requested. Posts: 25,776 Local Time: 06:59 AM	yes __________________

07-03-2005, 11:28 PM	#9
MrBrau1 ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Verplexed in Vermont Posts: 10,436 Local Time: 05:59 AM	Greed is good. __________________ "If you needed my autograph, I'd give it to you." Bob Dylan

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DaveC Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: mar-a-lago delenda est Posts: 21,460 Local Time: 05:59 AM	Yeah, Greed was a terrible game show, wasn't it? Damn Chuck Woolery. __________________

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DaveC Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: mar-a-lago delenda est Posts: 21,460 Local Time: 05:59 AM

07-03-2005, 08:57 PM	#4
trevster2k Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 4,330 Local Time: 07:29 AM	I spend more time with my PC then the TV. And when I watch TV it is usually my small one, the big one is only for DVDs.

07-03-2005, 10:00 PM	#6
indra ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 12,689 Local Time: 06:59 AM	yes I think greed has ruined TV. That's also why the dreadful reality craze has taken over too. "Reality" programs are cheap to produce.

07-03-2005, 10:08 PM	#7
the rockin edge Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: tomorrow's just an excuse away Posts: 26,816 Local Time: 04:59 AM	greed ruins lots of things/people

07-03-2005, 11:20 PM	#8
Halifax The Fly Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 236 Local Time: 10:59 AM	Greed destroys art. Greed destroys everything it touches. There's a reason why its one of the seven deadly sins.

07-03-2005, 11:29 PM	#10
bono_man2002 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: In the wrong band Posts: 28,476 Local Time: 09:59 PM	Wasn't Live Aid dropped by all the 3 TV networks in Australia, then the ABC got it? Therefore, being on ABC..there should have been no adds.

07-03-2005, 11:32 PM	#11
typhoon New Yorker Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 3,020 Local Time: 03:59 AM	TV can't die soon enough.

07-04-2005, 12:11 AM	#12
yertle-the-turtle ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: York, UK and Singapore Posts: 11,750 Local Time: 06:59 PM	The thing is I think the network already has a commitment to broadcast Wimbledon each year, and the Live 8 thing was relatively new. I thought the coverage on Singapore was good, it was available only on cable though (although if you didn't have cable you could head down to this restaurant/pub area where they had five giant screens to show the thing). I had no idea where they were getting the feed from but while they did cut to commercial every hour or so, they broadcast the show on two channels - one main channel and one channel where you can send text messages and stuff like that - so whenever a commercial came I just switched over and followed it from there. The only performance completely blacked out was Snoop Dogg, I'm guessing the cable operator was freaking with the amount of f-words all over the place and Snoop was a good bet to drop a few more! Otherwise I didn't get to see everybody and they weren't all complete performances (Travis, for instance, or REM) but no-one was cut off mid-song. That said to answer your original question, yeah, probably.

07-04-2005, 01:15 AM	#13
Lila64 Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ♥Set List Lane♥ Posts: 52,894 Local Time: 03:59 AM	TV = (especially M-TV and VH1!)

07-04-2005, 02:05 AM	#14
nbcrusader Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,071 Local Time: 02:59 AM	Was TV ever alive? It has always been a commercial enterprise. Even the earliest shows where sponsored.

07-04-2005, 03:54 AM	#16
myusernamehere War Child Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The question is; where are you? Posts: 768 Local Time: 05:59 AM	I caught the tail end of it...it was mostly just recaps where they showed 20 blips of different performers. Here's what I saw VJ babbling Commercial VJ/ PSA Commercial VJ Green Day VJ Commercial Green Day Commercial VJ PSA U2 and Paul Mc-ooops Commercial VJ Will Sm--oops VJ Commercial Green Day

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Cassis Refugee Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In the goal Posts: 2,345 Local Time: 11:59 AM

07-04-2005, 03:10 PM	#19
dandy Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: styrofoam peanut commune Posts: 4,310 Local Time: 07:59 AM	yes, beli, i'm afraid greed killed tv quite some time ago.