1stepcloser said:I have heard of Babe Ruth but i couldn't tell you any of his achievments.
andyuk said:how can an american footballer/baseball/basketball or hockey player be the best sportsman ever when these sports are hardly played world wide and only in america! it would have to be a soccer player, tennis, golf etc WORLDWIDE SPORTS GUYS!!!!
Hewson said:Muhammed Ali.
End of discussion.
Close the thread and everyone stop posting your hometown favorites.
So what is that, like five people, a didgeridoo, and sixty sheep?Axver said:
Pinetree could take Ali.
I think every Kiwi (and maybe some Aussies or Scots) knows exactly what I mean.
Canadiens1160 said:
And everyone just says Bret Hart because he died.
Headache in a Suitcase said:
this kinda proves how babe ruth goes ahead of federer... you know nothing about baseball, live in a country where baseball probably ranks somewhere behind lawn darts in popularity... yet you know who babe ruth is.
and not for nothing, baseball is the national sport of the USA, Japan, Taiwan, Venezuela, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Nicauragua, Panama and Puerto Rico. it may not be played everywhere, but it is not "just the US and Japan."
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Bradman#Context
[An explanation of statistics taken from a book by Charles Davis called The Best Of The Best:]
[A]mongst a group of top professionals, you'd expect someone of Donald Bradman's calibre to appear 1 out of 184,000 compared with one out of 1 out of 3,000 for Michael Jordan. In fact, it's possible that Bradman's statistics are even more extreme because of extra deviation created by non-batting specialists. This is evident by noting that Bradman is out of sight compared with the second highest average.
In order to post a similarly dominant career statistic as Bradman, a baseball batter would need a career batting average of 0.392, while a basketballer would need to score 43 points per game.
MrPryck2U said:It seems that everyone has their own criteria for Greatest Sportsman or Greatest athlete. Americans aren't really too familiar with cricket because they have Major League Baseball. Just like cricket fans might not be into baseball because they have their sport. Anyway, I'm sure one could pick any top star from their favorite sport and declare them the greatest of all time. I couldn't argue with some of the names mentioned. Babe Ruth, Micheal Jordon, Wayne Gretzky, Ali and Pele are all one-of-a-kind athletes/superstars. Babe Ruth might've liked to eat, drink and be merry, but despite himself, he still had an amazing career. I think every name that's been mentioned in this thread could be considered the greatest.
Axver said:
The man was in a league of his own. He makes the achievements of Pele, Ali, and Michael Jordan in their respective sports look thoroughly ordinary.
Axver said:As far as I'm concerned, anyone who denies that Bradman is simply in a league of his own as far as any sport goes, even cross-sport comparisons, is either:
1. someone who has no clue about cricket (i.e. is probably American), and/or
2. someone who is wrong.
How do you even begin to compare to Bradman? The man was in a league of his own. He makes the achievements of Pele, Ali, and Michael Jordan in their respective sports look thoroughly ordinary. Now, I'm sure cases based on subjective values could be made for other sportspeople, but if we're going by straight achievement, you simply can't find anyone with statistics that are even in Bradman's ballpark.
I just have to wonder if we will ever see a talent like Bradman in any sport again.
(Though Pinetree could take Bradman too. )
Axver said:As far as I'm concerned, anyone who denies that Bradman is simply in a league of his own as far as any sport goes, even cross-sport comparisons, is either:
1. someone who has no clue about cricket (i.e. is probably American), and/or
2. someone who is wrong.
How do you even begin to compare to Bradman? The man was in a league of his own. He makes the achievements of Pele, Ali, and Michael Jordan in their respective sports look thoroughly ordinary. Now, I'm sure cases based on subjective values could be made for other sportspeople, but if we're going by straight achievement, you simply can't find anyone with statistics that are even in Bradman's ballpark.
I just have to wonder if we will ever see a talent like Bradman in any sport again.
(Though Pinetree could take Bradman too. )
LemonMacPhisto said:
Basketball is more of a global sport than American nowadays.
Soccer is global, as is Hockey.
Cricket, in my opinion, is global but not as huge of a market sport as the other 3.