Episode III title annouced - Page 2

u2popmofo · 07-29-2004, 02:41 AM

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Originally posted by Basstrap

lets face it, these last movies prove Lucas cannot direct well at all or write a good screenplay.

Exactly. There's no one to blame other than George himself, he completely destroyed his own legacy.

AvsGirl41 · 07-29-2004, 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by Basstrap
these movies are fascinating in tha they are like watching an expensive train wreck

Someone made an interesting comment on another board.
Sure, in the first three movies there was bad acting all around and campy scenes...but that's what made starwars so great. It is like a glorified B Movie.
These new ones are overdone.
I would have so much rathered yodo stay in a suit than become digitized to kick some ass

I never thought the acting in the first 3 was all that bad though. No, it wasn't Oscar-winning quality, but it was appropriate for the film. They were action heroes. The dialogue may not have been incredible, but it flowed and was catchy.

There's none of that in the prequels. Episode II was like watching a bad high school play. "But we...would...be living...a...lie, Anakin. I...could...not...live like that. Could...you?" And that was a vast improvement over Episode I. It's a testament to Ewan McGregor and Liam Neeson's acting that they managed not to look like complete fools in that film.

I don't really understand what happened. I guess Lucas just lost touch with his own story and characters. I think the new visual effects must have played it's part. He didn't have that to lean on before and had to actually WORK at writing and directing?

The Sage · 07-29-2004, 05:23 PM

I haven't watched any of the star wars movies for ages now, but in my opinion as far as I can remember Episode 1 was pretty good, it may have been a bit light on plot and good dialogue but it was fairly entertaining and enjoyable, and the characters actually felt like real people not 2-dimensional...better than episode 2 at least which was pretty cliched throughout. Ep 1 may have been far from a masterpiece but it certainly didn't deserve the crap it got from most people who seem to have been expecting so much from it that really anything would have been a disappointment.

I'm not an expert on either star wars or films in general, however...

AvsGirl41 · 07-30-2004, 12:55 AM

I actually liked Episode I the first time around and defended it.

Then I watched it again.

That little Anakin just ruined the whole movie.

u2popmofo · 07-30-2004, 01:18 AM

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Originally posted by AvsGirl41
That little Anakin just ruined the whole movie.

Well, Jar-Jar did his fair share of ruining.

'How to Ruin Completely', indeed.

AvsGirl41 · 07-30-2004, 01:47 AM

You're right. I must have blocked Jar Jar from my memory. The human mind can only take so much.

Angela Harlem · 07-30-2004, 07:41 AM

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Originally posted by AvsGirl41

I don't really understand what happened. I guess Lucas just lost touch with his own story and characters. I think the new visual effects must have played it's part. He didn't have that to lean on before and had to actually WORK at writing and directing?

Have you seen the extra bits in any of the newer release dvd's? It has this doco of sorts showing right at the start when Lucas couldn't even get funding or support right through the cult rise, through to now and how his team work on these next 3. In all, he seems to have lost more than the plot. He's not only a control freak, but his genius which made the first 3 such a success has evolved into something entirely different.
He's a bizarre individual.

dazzledbylight · 07-30-2004, 04:15 PM

how funny for me, an long time lit & media SF fan -starting with later in the original series Twilight Zone, Clifford Simak, Clarke, Asimovv, original Outer Limits and Classic Trek-- that I's here EP III title annoucement here.

That's because I've been way late with sending someone

, #not# out of any maliciousness just very busy, so I've forgotten from time to time

.

This'll help get me back on there {by sending her the stuff}, then I can get back on, and rejoin my friends ther

ESB was my definate fave but I liked things about I n& II, also.

I- Obi 7 Qui, ANi, the vaRIOUS LANDSCAPES, Amidala, The city planet, the pod race, I liked ANi's friend's, the 'return' to Tatooine/Owen's farm (i got a bit o shivers when we saw the Twin Suns in space), the pod racer who always cheated, The GuGuan's under water cities {actuLLY ALL THE VAR\IUOS ARCHITECTURES}, The Senate scenes & The Duel [and it's physical settings]. and The Music. Oh and as impractical as they wwere AmidaLa's fancy outfits!

The plot wasn't thin, IMHO. We had the politicAL set ups going on, as well as finding Ani, Amidala's problems etc.

And J-J annoyingness is part of how he ends up making a cruicial desion in II.

II- I really loved ANi/Obi's chase for Amadala's would be assasain. I really like the building and structures they zipped through around, the diving, all that.

Even if the CGI looks a bit worn....I still love looking at Forbbin Plaent , the Krell's underground citiy eety/. There's just certain elements of deign thAT despite the materials that it's made of that I think hold up.

I liked the emergence of the cloning/clones and their presumed further battles against the robot army. I enjoyed the senate scenes again as well as the City Planet.

AvsGirl41 · 07-30-2004, 05:02 PM

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Originally posted by Angela Harlem

Have you seen the extra bits in any of the newer release dvd's? It has this doco of sorts showing right at the start when Lucas couldn't even get funding or support right through the cult rise, through to now and how his team work on these next 3. In all, he seems to have lost more than the plot. He's not only a control freak, but his genius which made the first 3 such a success has evolved into something entirely different.
He's a bizarre individual.

Wow, no I haven't. I watched a bunch of extras on Attack of the Clones, but nothing more recent. And all I remember from the extras was "R2D2: Behind the Dome" which was better than the movie!

I love insane directors, I'm going to have to see those extras.

The Sage · 07-30-2004, 07:59 PM

If it wasn't already 2am now i'd put on ep1 and reevalute it...i still don't think it was that bad tho...

yertle-the-turtle · 07-30-2004, 11:05 PM

I hate the title, to be honest.

I'm still excited though. Not to the extent of a Jason Fox-esque wearing a Darth Vader suit, but yeah.

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yertle-the-turtle ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: York, UK and Singapore Posts: 11,750 Local Time: 01:14 PM	I hate the title, to be honest. I'm still excited though. Not to the extent of a Jason Fox-esque wearing a Darth Vader suit, but yeah. __________________

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07-29-2004, 05:23 PM	#23
The Sage War Child Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: London, UK Posts: 564 Local Time: 05:14 AM	I haven't watched any of the star wars movies for ages now, but in my opinion as far as I can remember Episode 1 was pretty good, it may have been a bit light on plot and good dialogue but it was fairly entertaining and enjoyable, and the characters actually felt like real people not 2-dimensional...better than episode 2 at least which was pretty cliched throughout. Ep 1 may have been far from a masterpiece but it certainly didn't deserve the crap it got from most people who seem to have been expecting so much from it that really anything would have been a disappointment. I'm not an expert on either star wars or films in general, however...

07-30-2004, 12:55 AM	#24
AvsGirl41 New Yorker Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 2,948 Local Time: 10:14 PM	I actually liked Episode I the first time around and defended it. Then I watched it again. That little Anakin just ruined the whole movie.

07-30-2004, 01:47 AM	#26
AvsGirl41 New Yorker Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 2,948 Local Time: 10:14 PM	You're right. I must have blocked Jar Jar from my memory. The human mind can only take so much.

07-30-2004, 04:15 PM	#28
dazzledbylight Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: in the sound dancing - w Bono & Edge :D Posts: 34,908 Local Time: 12:14 AM	how funny for me, an long time lit & media SF fan -starting with later in the original series Twilight Zone, Clifford Simak, Clarke, Asimovv, original Outer Limits and Classic Trek-- that I's here EP III title annoucement here. That's because I've been way late with sending someone , #not# out of any maliciousness just very busy, so I've forgotten from time to time . This'll help get me back on there {by sending her the stuff}, then I can get back on, and rejoin my friends ther ESB was my definate fave but I liked things about I n& II, also. I- Obi 7 Qui, ANi, the vaRIOUS LANDSCAPES, Amidala, The city planet, the pod race, I liked ANi's friend's, the 'return' to Tatooine/Owen's farm (i got a bit o shivers when we saw the Twin Suns in space), the pod racer who always cheated, The GuGuan's under water cities {actuLLY ALL THE VAR\IUOS ARCHITECTURES}, The Senate scenes & The Duel [and it's physical settings]. and The Music. Oh and as impractical as they wwere AmidaLa's fancy outfits! The plot wasn't thin, IMHO. We had the politicAL set ups going on, as well as finding Ani, Amidala's problems etc. And J-J annoyingness is part of how he ends up making a cruicial desion in II. II- I really loved ANi/Obi's chase for Amadala's would be assasain. I really like the building and structures they zipped through around, the diving, all that. Even if the CGI looks a bit worn....I still love looking at Forbbin Plaent , the Krell's underground citiy eety/. There's just certain elements of deign thAT despite the materials that it's made of that I think hold up. I liked the emergence of the cloning/clones and their presumed further battles against the robot army. I enjoyed the senate scenes again as well as the City Planet.

07-30-2004, 07:59 PM	#30
The Sage War Child Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: London, UK Posts: 564 Local Time: 05:14 AM	If it wasn't already 2am now i'd put on ep1 and reevalute it...i still don't think it was that bad tho...