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Zootlesque said:
Whatever anyone says about GNR, they fucking ruled from 1987 to 1993.
i think you will find that U2 ruled from 1987 to 1993. actually.
Zootlesque said:
Whatever anyone says about GNR, they fucking ruled from 1987 to 1993.
1stepcloser said:
i think you will find that U2 ruled from 1987 to 1993. actually.
bollox said:
um, "yo! bum rush the show" was PE's first album. and they're still putting albums out.
a better choice in hip hop would be ice cube. amerikkka's most wanted, death certificate, and the predator are pretty widely considered to be his 3 best.
Zootlesque said:
Oh please! We are not talking just 'guitar ability' here! Whatever anyone says about GNR, they fucking ruled from 1987 to 1993. Whether it was their ability to make kick ass hard rock like Welcome To The Jungle or beautiful orchestral songs like November Rain. That's my opinion anyway. And Pearl Jam laughable? You've got to be kidding me.
Layton said:
There's no way Ice Cube's first 3 compare with PE's first 3. I just can't see how those albums had anywhere near the focused power and fury that the PE albums had. It's probably because of how they essentially stole Punk Rock and made it their own that I think that. To me, PE are probably the most forceful group of any genre that I've ever heard. Their music packed a punch like nobody else. Plus, the originality in their sound collages and production ideas are nothing short of elite. I don't think Ice Cube can compare in those 2 areas, at all.
bollox said:
i find fear of a black planet to be vastly overrated, though i do enjoy apocalypse 91, which was comparatively less well received criticially. as an mc, i'll take early ice cube over chuck d any day. i think his delivery is even more forceful and intense than chuck's. chuck also tends to get too sanctimonious for my taste, whereas cube had more of a sense of humor. i'd say the anger & sense of social injustice are comparable. in fact, i find cube's rage to be more palpable, as he was coming more from (pardon the cliche) the street, whereas chuck's over-intellectualizing made him seem sorta just like a pissed-off college professor.
lazarus said:It's funny that someone vetoed The Clash because I think Give 'Em Enough Rope is the most listenable of the three. That first album, considering the musical climate when it appeared, it pretty damned amazing. And I don't think I need to say anything about London Calling.
I think this is a left brain/right brain decision, and I would say one or the other on any given day. So I'm not going to pick one.
Layton said:
That's a good point about Cube's delivery. I can definately agree that Cube as a 'vocalist' if you want to call it that had more going for him than Chuck D. I also agree that his rage is more palpable. I think the way Flav's vocal tidbits were weaved into the mixes really helped loosen up PE's sound. I think that was a great way to balance out Chuck's 'sanctimoniousness' in the overall sound.
Your observations are correct about Cube being more 'street'. There's no doubt he's bringing the street level version of injustice hard on those early albums. I guess I just prefer PE's angle on it all. It feels to me like PE are coming from a deeper and more profound place than anger or rage, regarding the injustice thing. It's like PE found a way to use their anger, not just to rail, but to galvanize and inspire action through their music. Their music captured the awakening of spirits standing up to make a statement in the world.
elevation2u said:
Bjork
debut
Post
Homogenic
lazarus said:I'm a big Pearl Jam fan, but Ten isn't even close to their best work. It lacks the scope of the later records where you really saw what they were capable of. It's overproduced and sounds rather dated.
If you were going with Vs., Vitalogy, and No Code, I'd be right behind that, but unfortunately we're talking first three albums.
MacPhistoPT said:Well, I think Iron Maiden could be another name to this list. Of course doesn't hold a candle to many names stated here but... "Iron Maiden", "Killers" and "The Number of the Beast" #2 it's a bit weak but #1 and #3 are easily their best albums. But I'm suspect again, I really like their music
lazarus said:R.E.M. is another favorite of mine, but Reckoning and Fables aren't two of their better albums. Murmur's fantastic but it's a big step down.
corianderstem said:How about REM?
Murmur
Reckoning
Fables of the Reconstruction
Zootlesque said:Pearl Jam!!! Can't believe nobody mentioned them yet!
Ten
Versus
Vitalogy
although, in my mind Ten will always be towering high above most of the albums.