2012 AFL Thread III - Why Do We Even Bother With Our Stupid Teams? - Page 17

Vlad n U 2 · 07-27-2012, 05:25 AM

I didn't expect it to be this bad.

bono_man2002 · 07-27-2012, 05:40 AM

The kind of form Hawthorn are in I kinda expected them to run away and win by a big margin, thought Essendon might have turned up though.

The Sad Punk · 07-27-2012, 05:41 AM

Jesus, Essendon.

LemonMelon · 07-27-2012, 05:45 AM

No.

LemonMelon · 07-27-2012, 05:47 AM

It sucks that we're going to face Essendon with their backs to the wall. They can't stay this awful, can they?

Vlad n U 2 · 07-27-2012, 05:47 AM

Essendon need like 9 more Jobe Watsons out there.

LemonMelon · 07-27-2012, 05:51 AM

I just...it's not even half time.

How many more do the Bombers have to lose before they match last year's collapse? The cushion they have should keep them in the 8 for a while, but Adelaide/North/Carlton/Richmond/Collingwood is a tough stretch. They need to turn it on quickly.

Vlad n U 2 · 07-27-2012, 05:56 AM

Losing 3 out of the next 4 is looking very, very likely now. They might even drop out of the 8.

LemonMelon · 07-27-2012, 06:00 AM

They might take a couple out of Roos, Blues and Tiges, but they are going to get mauled next week on the road vs. Adelaide. I know they have some health concerns, and maybe they'll get that straightened out sometime before the season finale against the Pies. I haven't checked their injury report. Right now, I'd go Collingwood on that though, hands down. I'd say 2-3 the rest of the way.

Although an Essendon victory in any circumstance seems improbable watching this disaster.

bono_man2002 · 07-27-2012, 06:37 AM

Shit. Yes!

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The Sad Punk · 07-27-2012, 07:16 AM

Thanks for that reminder that I'm not premium anymore, Daniel.

Can't imagine this is the end of Essendon's season, but they're looking a bit sad at the moment. Know how you feel, Slaxver.

Vlad n U 2 · 07-27-2012, 07:28 AM

LOL @ Dennis throwing in a U2 reference.

intedomine · 07-27-2012, 07:42 AM

What did he say?

What an awesome result. What a team this Hawthorn side is.

Lance Franklin is a liability. Hawthorn are better off without him. Gunston is a star.

Vlad n U 2 · 07-27-2012, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by intedomine

What did he say?

Referenced a With or Without You lyric in regards to a Cyril shank that bent back through the goal.

I think it was Harley who briefly went on to mention the origins of Bono's nickname.

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Gunston is a star.

Shit person though.

bono_man2002 · 07-27-2012, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by The Sad Punk

Thanks for that reminder that I'm not premium anymore, Daniel.

For you

Alisaura · 07-27-2012, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by intedomine

Lance Franklin is a liability. Hawthorn are better off without him.

Perhaps, but the other Hawks still managed to kick a shitload of behinds without him.

Looks like Hodge did well for his comeback, and Rioli for his 100th.

I have this guilty urge to apologise to Slaxver... which my phone wanted to change to "Slavery". I was honestly worried we were going to get cocky and mess it up (again).

cobl04 · 07-27-2012, 08:26 AM

No offence to Ax/Charlotte, who are decent human beings, but there is absolutely nothing that I would like to see more than Essendon sliding out of the eight.

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Originally Posted by intedomine

Lance Franklin is a liability. Hawthorn are better off without him. Gunston is a star.

Oh come on man, that is ridiculous. Yes they are playing extremely well (and kicking straighter) but Buddy is the first person picked for that side every week. I see where you're coming from, but it's a silly comment.

The Sad Punk · 07-27-2012, 09:18 AM

Thanks Daniel, I approve of any Castle related AFL macro.

Quote:

Originally Posted by intedomine

Lance Franklin is a liability. Hawthorn are better off without him.

Sometimes I have to wonder if you're taking the piss.

intedomine · 07-27-2012, 09:24 AM

The accuracy is not the problem. It's Franklin's role in the side, and how it effects how his teammates deliver the ball inside 50.

They are playing more efficiently without him, and have a real freedom and confidence about themselves when they go forward. He is nowhere near as important to this team as the media makes him out to be.

Roughead and Gunston compliment each other as twin talls very well in the current structure.

When Franklin plays, it's almost like he's a distraction, an occasionally brilliant, yet unconventional and unreliable target up forward. This is not to deny his individual ability as a player, but more to suggest that Hawthorn look a lot more at ease without him in the side.

This is not to say that he shouldn't play, but to allow something like an 11 goal loss to Richmond happen again (which can partially be attributed to Hawthorn's thoroughly incompetent forward line on the day, of which Franklin was a major factor) would be disappointing.

Franklin is best suited in a team of champions. Hawthorn these past few weeks have proven themselves to be a champion team. One comparable with Essendon 99-01, Brisbane 01-04 or Geelong 07-11.

Vlad n U 2 · 07-27-2012, 09:34 AM

inb4 hawthorn dynasty

07-27-2012, 05:25 AM	#321
Vlad n U 2 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 28,387 Local Time: 06:14 AM	I didn't expect it to be this bad. __________________

07-27-2012, 05:40 AM	#322
bono_man2002 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: In the wrong band Posts: 28,504 Local Time: 06:44 AM	The kind of form Hawthorn are in I kinda expected them to run away and win by a big margin, thought Essendon might have turned up though. __________________

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Vlad n U 2 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 28,387 Local Time: 06:14 AM	inb4 hawthorn dynasty __________________

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07-27-2012, 05:41 AM	#323
The Sad Punk Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: VEGA INTL NITE SKOOL Posts: 28,702 Local Time: 05:14 AM	Jesus, Essendon.

07-27-2012, 05:45 AM	#324
LemonMelon More 5G Than Man Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hollywoo Posts: 68,783 Local Time: 12:44 PM	No.

07-27-2012, 05:47 AM	#325
LemonMelon More 5G Than Man Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hollywoo Posts: 68,783 Local Time: 12:44 PM	It sucks that we're going to face Essendon with their backs to the wall. They can't stay this awful, can they?

07-27-2012, 05:47 AM	#326
Vlad n U 2 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 28,387 Local Time: 06:14 AM	Essendon need like 9 more Jobe Watsons out there.

07-27-2012, 05:51 AM	#327
LemonMelon More 5G Than Man Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hollywoo Posts: 68,783 Local Time: 12:44 PM	I just...it's not even half time. How many more do the Bombers have to lose before they match last year's collapse? The cushion they have should keep them in the 8 for a while, but Adelaide/North/Carlton/Richmond/Collingwood is a tough stretch. They need to turn it on quickly.

07-27-2012, 05:56 AM	#328
Vlad n U 2 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 28,387 Local Time: 06:14 AM	Losing 3 out of the next 4 is looking very, very likely now. They might even drop out of the 8.

07-27-2012, 06:00 AM	#329
LemonMelon More 5G Than Man Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hollywoo Posts: 68,783 Local Time: 12:44 PM	They might take a couple out of Roos, Blues and Tiges, but they are going to get mauled next week on the road vs. Adelaide. I know they have some health concerns, and maybe they'll get that straightened out sometime before the season finale against the Pies. I haven't checked their injury report. Right now, I'd go Collingwood on that though, hands down. I'd say 2-3 the rest of the way. Although an Essendon victory in any circumstance seems improbable watching this disaster.

07-27-2012, 06:37 AM	#330
bono_man2002 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: In the wrong band Posts: 28,504 Local Time: 06:44 AM	Shit. Yes!

07-27-2012, 07:16 AM	#331
The Sad Punk Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: VEGA INTL NITE SKOOL Posts: 28,702 Local Time: 05:14 AM	Thanks for that reminder that I'm not premium anymore, Daniel. Can't imagine this is the end of Essendon's season, but they're looking a bit sad at the moment. Know how you feel, Slaxver.

07-27-2012, 07:28 AM	#332
Vlad n U 2 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 28,387 Local Time: 06:14 AM	LOL @ Dennis throwing in a U2 reference.

07-27-2012, 07:42 AM	#333
intedomine Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Melbourne Posts: 8,108 Local Time: 05:44 AM	What did he say? What an awesome result. What a team this Hawthorn side is. Lance Franklin is a liability. Hawthorn are better off without him. Gunston is a star.

07-27-2012, 09:24 AM	#339
intedomine Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Melbourne Posts: 8,108 Local Time: 05:44 AM	The accuracy is not the problem. It's Franklin's role in the side, and how it effects how his teammates deliver the ball inside 50. They are playing more efficiently without him, and have a real freedom and confidence about themselves when they go forward. He is nowhere near as important to this team as the media makes him out to be. Roughead and Gunston compliment each other as twin talls very well in the current structure. When Franklin plays, it's almost like he's a distraction, an occasionally brilliant, yet unconventional and unreliable target up forward. This is not to deny his individual ability as a player, but more to suggest that Hawthorn look a lot more at ease without him in the side. This is not to say that he shouldn't play, but to allow something like an 11 goal loss to Richmond happen again (which can partially be attributed to Hawthorn's thoroughly incompetent forward line on the day, of which Franklin was a major factor) would be disappointing. Franklin is best suited in a team of champions. Hawthorn these past few weeks have proven themselves to be a champion team. One comparable with Essendon 99-01, Brisbane 01-04 or Geelong 07-11.