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Old 10-17-2005, 06:57 PM   #1
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yet another kitty question

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I wasn't sure if I should've dug up one of the other kitty question threads... so mods merge away if need be.

Anyway.
This is at the request of my brother.
He's got a kitty that's about... oh, 3-4 years old, female, spayed, declawed in front, has all her shots and everything.
I guess she refuses to poop in her litterbox any more. Not peeing anywhere or marking anything, just pooping on the floor in the bathroom.
She always used it up until now except for sometimes when he left for a few days she'd go on the floor. Now she does it all the time whether he's home or not.

Anybody have any suggestions or opinions or anything to say at all?



and now the required kitty picture. Her name's Cricket.
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Kill the cat.
Get a dog.

I hate cats.
Besides, I think your cat is going blind. Look closely at the photo. One eye is green and the other is "white". That´s SCARY! Looks like the cat from hell. I wouldn´t want my dog to play around that cat. Very dangerous....
Very dangerous.
You should kill that cat and get a dog.
Perhaps a cute little chihuahua dog with a cute waggly tail.
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Kill the cat.
Get a dog.
What a fantastic idea! There are some people in a few of my classes that I don't like very much, should I take the same advice?
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Kill the cat.
Get a dog.

I hate cats.
Besides, I think your cat is going blind. Look closely at the photo. One eye is green and the other is "white". That´s SCARY! Looks like the cat from hell. I wouldn´t want my dog to play around that cat. Very dangerous....
Very dangerous.
You should kill that cat and get a dog.
Perhaps a cute little chihuahua dog with a cute waggly tail.
It's not my cat.
chihuahuas are annoying.

and the cat is partially blind in one eye, though the picture's probably from that whole light reflecting off the retina at different angles thing
she was born out on the patio at my parent's house, and we found her mom in the garage and took her inside since she was in labor. I found the kitten outside about 2 hours later. She ended up getting a really bad eye infection and she can't see as well out of that eye.
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I'm sure it's a silly question, but has he tried cleaning the litter box more often? Every once in awhile my Burmese cat will start going on the floor around her litter box rather than in the box. it's usually because she's not happy about the conditions of the box.
She'll urinate in it, because it absorbs and she doesn't need to bury it, and she simply doesn't want to dig in the smelly littter.


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I didn't specifically ask him, I was thinking that since we both always tell mom she needs to clean the litterboxes more often he'd know better.

It's a good thought though. I'll pass it on.

and I like cats and dogs equally
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#1 thing is to make sure the litter is scooped at least DAILY.

If that doesn't help, he should have her anal glands checked - when they get really full, it can make them uncomfortable when they poop. They think 'Well, it hurts when I go in the litterbox, maybe it won't hurt if I go somewhere else.' If those are fine, in a cat over 7 I recommend checking thyroid hormone levels, many cats with an overactive thyroid poop outside the box.

But far and away, the most common issue seems to be related to litterbox cleanliness, cats often get fussier as they get older.

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What a fantastic idea! There are some people in a few of my classes that I don't like very much, should I take the same advice?
Well, Ellen, if they're some of the same people I'm thinking of, you'd be doing us both a favor!

Anyway...cats...pooping....hmmm...I got nothing. All mine always go where they're supposed to (thank GOD since it's really the ONE thing they do right!).
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Oh come on guys (gals), can’t you take a joke?

Seriously now, I do like cats (as long as they stay off my couch though) but I am more inclined to dogs as pets. I did have a Chihuahua for the last 14 years, but unfortunately the little gal died about three months ago from old age

By looking at the cat picture I did notice something wrong with one of her eyes, so sorry it´s blind. But that doesn´t mean it does not make a cuddly pet either. You just have to love the creature just as it is (just like a human being - we all have our imperfections).
Cats , as everyone knows, are a little bit on the wild side. By that I mean, they were never properly trained as pets throughout our human evolution/relationship.
So cats tend to go off and do their "thing". They are more predatory animals than dogs.
This recent idea of humans having to train cats to use "kitty-litter" hasn’t really set into the cats genes as of yet. No animal is properly "trained", because they still have that "wildness" inside of them. After all they are "animals". They do their "stuff" where they feel like it, because it is in their thought. They don’t have any remorse or feelings as such for doing their Poop on any ones living room. That’s no joke. It´s the truth.
Animals have no remorse’s.
But it seems that Cricket might have some problems with his butt. Speaking seriously, it wouldn’t be a bad idea to have it checked it out with your local veterinary. Might be some kind of small intestine problem (or butt) that make the cat want to make poop somewhere else, other than the kitty-litter box.
Another thought that comes to mind is the "territorial problem".
All animals have this tendency to mark their territory. No matter what animal it might be, they have this tendency to mark their "place" with urine and sometimes even poop, so as to let other creatures in the area know, that "that" place is theirs. Some animals just can´t put their urine in certain places, so they poop. They leave their "mark". So it is quite normal. The ONLY un-normal thing about them is that humans have decided to take them INSIDE their houses. Animals are animals... so they love the outdoors. They are NEVER happy being stuck up inside a house. Perhaps the cat is trying to say, "Hey man, let me out of the house , so I can REALLY poop on a nice peace of grass, because it is in my genetic behaviour to do it on a nice piece of green grass!"
As a human yourself, you have to put yourself inside the head of the other animals thoughts. As animals ourselves we have certain "needs", and so do other animals. So think about it .

Hope Cricket gets better.
And by the way, don´t EVER take what I say seriously. I like to have a different outlook towards life, and I often joke about serious stuff. But deep down inside, I do know what I speak about and I do care a lot.
It’s just that I am an "artist" and a painter since I was 4 years old.
So as a human-being, I am a little "fucked up in the brain department"

Oh... by the way, I almost forgot...
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What a fantastic idea! There are some people in a few of my classes that I don't like very much, should I take the same advice?
Yes. ( )
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[BIf that doesn't help, he should have her anal glands checked - when they get really full, it can make them uncomfortable when they poop. They think 'Well, it hurts when I go in the litterbox, maybe it won't hurt if I go somewhere else.'

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Worf had that just recently. In fact, her gland was abscessed . But after a trip to the vet and some antibiotics, she's back to using the litter box again.
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Kill the cat.
Get a dog.

I hate cats.
You should kill that cat and get a dog.
Perhaps a cute little chihuahua dog with a cute waggly tail.
I don't think you realize just how unfunny this is, and how offensive it is. This forum does not take kindly to cat bashing. And saying 'kill' is not funny, cats are living creatures with feelings and a lot of us love them very much. Please keep these rude thoughts to yourself, and I hope you never actually act upon them. As UV said, there are people I don't like, but I'm not going to kill them. I may hate your dog too, but I am not going to say kill him, even if he ate your sofa. I really think you should apologize to the cat lovers on this forum
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I don't think you realize just how unfunny this is, and how offensive it is. This forum does not take kindly to cat bashing. And saying 'kill' is not funny, cats are living creatures with feelings and a lot of us love them very much. Please keep these rude thoughts to yourself, and I hope you never actually act upon them. As UV said, there are people I don't like, but I'm not going to kill them. I may hate your dog too, but I am not going to say kill him, even if he ate your sofa. I really think you should apologize to the cat lovers on this forum


Sure, beat up on the "poor artist", why won´t ya?
Alright, alright....
~~~~ I AM SORRY TO ALL CAT LOVERS IN THE HOUSE ~~~~

There, I said it.
I have no problem apologizing. I am quite the man to do it if I have hurt or upset anyone, specially any ladies of the house.

By the way, did you read what I just finished writing in the up-above post? read it again, please...

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Oh come on guys (gals), can’t you take a joke?

Seriously now, I do like cats (as long as they stay off my couch though) but I am more inclined to dogs as pets. I did have a Chihuahua for the last 14 years, but unfortunately the little gal died about three months ago from old age

By looking at the cat picture I did notice something wrong with one of her eyes, so sorry it´s blind. But that doesn´t mean it does not make a cuddly pet either. You just have to love the creature just as it is (just like a human being - we all have our imperfections).
Cats , as everyone knows, are a little bit on the wild side. By that I mean, they were never properly trained as pets throughout our human evolution/relationship.
So cats tend to go off and do their "thing". They are more predatory animals than dogs.
This recent idea of humans having to train cats to use "kitty-litter" hasn’t really set into the cats genes as of yet. No animal is properly "trained", because they still have that "wildness" inside of them. After all they are "animals". They do their "stuff" where they feel like it, because it is in their thought. They don’t have any remorse or feelings as such for doing their Poop on any ones living room. That’s no joke. It´s the truth.
Animals have no remorse’s.
But it seems that Cricket might have some problems with his butt. Speaking seriously, it wouldn’t be a bad idea to have it checked it out with your local veterinary. Might be some kind of small intestine problem (or butt) that make the cat want to make poop somewhere else, other than the kitty-litter box.
Another thought that comes to mind is the "territorial problem".
All animals have this tendency to mark their territory. No matter what animal it might be, they have this tendency to mark their "place" with urine and sometimes even poop, so as to let other creatures in the area know, that "that" place is theirs. Some animals just can´t put their urine in certain places, so they poop. They leave their "mark". So it is quite normal. The ONLY un-normal thing about them is that humans have decided to take them INSIDE their houses. Animals are animals... so they love the outdoors. They are NEVER happy being stuck up inside a house. Perhaps the cat is trying to say, "Hey man, let me out of the house , so I can REALLY poop on a nice peace of grass, because it is in my genetic behaviour to do it on a nice piece of green grass!"
As a human yourself, you have to put yourself inside the head of the other animals thoughts. As animals ourselves we have certain "needs", and so do other animals. So think about it .

Hope Cricket gets better.
And by the way, don´t EVER take what I say seriously. I like to have a different outlook towards life, and I often joke about serious stuff. But deep down inside, I do know what I speak about and I do care a lot.
It’s just that I am an "artist" and a painter since I was 4 years old.
So as a human-being, I am a little "fucked up in the brain department"
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By looking at the cat picture I did notice something wrong with one of her eyes, so sorry it´s blind. But that doesn´t mean it does not make a cuddly pet either. You just have to love the creature just as it is (just like a human being - we all have our imperfections).
Cats , as everyone knows, are a little bit on the wild side. By that I mean, they were never properly trained as pets throughout our human evolution/relationship.
So cats tend to go off and do their "thing". They are more predatory animals than dogs.
This recent idea of humans having to train cats to use "kitty-litter" hasn’t really set into the cats genes as of yet. No animal is properly "trained", because they still have that "wildness" inside of them. After all they are "animals". They do their "stuff" where they feel like it, because it is in their thought. They don’t have any remorse or feelings as such for doing their Poop on any ones living room. That’s no joke. It´s the truth.
Animals have no remorse’s.
But it seems that Cricket might have some problems with his butt. Speaking seriously, it wouldn’t be a bad idea to have it checked it out with your local veterinary. Might be some kind of small intestine problem (or butt) that make the cat want to make poop somewhere else, other than the kitty-litter box.
Another thought that comes to mind is the "territorial problem".
All animals have this tendency to mark their territory. No matter what animal it might be, they have this tendency to mark their "place" with urine and sometimes even poop, so as to let other creatures in the area know, that "that" place is theirs. Some animals just can´t put their urine in certain places, so they poop. They leave their "mark". So it is quite normal. The ONLY un-normal thing about them is that humans have decided to take them INSIDE their houses. Animals are animals... so they love the outdoors. They are NEVER happy being stuck up inside a house. Perhaps the cat is trying to say, "Hey man, let me out of the house , so I can REALLY poop on a nice peace of grass, because it is in my genetic behaviour to do it on a nice piece of green grass!"
As a human yourself, you have to put yourself inside the head of the other animals thoughts. As animals ourselves we have certain "needs", and so do other animals. So think about it .

Hope Cricket gets better.
And by the way, don´t EVER take what I say seriously.

Well, I'm not really taking this post seriously b/c...

1) there's nothing wrong with that cat's eyes, just a camera flash (cats get green eye or yellow eye, not red eye)

2) as for cats using kitty-litter being unnatural....domestic mother cats (NOT humans) will automatically teach kittens how to use a litter box (and they'll do it VERY young...I taught an orphaned 5 week old to use the litter box) and feral cats will often use a local sandbox for a litter box....so, I'm not sure what "genetics" has to do with it. Domestic cats have been bred as domestic cats for hundreds of years, so if their genetics made any difference, I'd think they would be MORE inclined to use a litter box. It's not in the genetic behavior of a domestic cat to poop out on the grass.

3) regardles of being domestic or wild, cats don't poop to mark territory, they scratch or spray, and like Kristie said, Cricket is still peeing in the litter box.

4) your understanding of the genetics of a domestic cat and how this effects their relationships with humans is off. A dog will obey a human, learn tricks, etc, b/c a dog comes from a built-in social hierarchy. The human is like the "alpha" dog (that doesn't imply you have to be mean to your dog). They will always obey the alpha dog. Cats are not like that. Besides lions, packs of cats are all equal, they simply stick together b/c they can try to get in on each other's food. A cat doesn't have the right schema in his brain to understand how to consistently obey a human or learn tricks like dogs can. It's not b/c domestic cats are still too wild, it's b/c domestic cats are cats.
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Besides lions, packs of cats are all equal, they simply stick together b/c they can try to get in on each other's food. A cat doesn't have the right schema in his brain to understand how to consistently obey a human or learn tricks like dogs can. It's not b/c domestic cats are still too wild, it's b/c domestic cats are cats.
yes

I always thought someone should try and breed lions to be pets, since they're pack animals and stuff.
Select for smallness and niceness and I think eventually you could get a dog-size nice lion pet.
Maybe I'll give it a shot someday when I'm filthy rich and have nothing else to do

thanks for all your suggestions!

on another note, happy thoughts only in my thread from now on!
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Well, I'm not really taking this post seriously b/c...

1) there's nothing wrong with that cat's eyes, just a camera flash (cats get green eye or yellow eye, not red eye)

2) as for cats using kitty-litter being unnatural....domestic mother cats (NOT humans) will automatically teach kittens how to use a litter box (and they'll do it VERY young...I taught an orphaned 5 week old to use the litter box) and feral cats will often use a local sandbox for a litter box....so, I'm not sure what "genetics" has to do with it. Domestic cats have been bred as domestic cats for hundreds of years, so if their genetics made any difference, I'd think they would be MORE inclined to use a litter box. It's not in the genetic behavior of a domestic cat to poop out on the grass.

3) regardles of being domestic or wild, cats don't poop to mark territory, they scratch or spray, and like Kristie said, Cricket is still peeing in the litter box.

4) your understanding of the genetics of a domestic cat and how this effects their relationships with humans is off. A dog will obey a human, learn tricks, etc, b/c a dog comes from a built-in social hierarchy. The human is like the "alpha" dog (that doesn't imply you have to be mean to your dog). They will always obey the alpha dog. Cats are not like that. Besides lions, packs of cats are all equal, they simply stick together b/c they can try to get in on each other's food. A cat doesn't have the right schema in his brain to understand how to consistently obey a human or learn tricks like dogs can. It's not b/c domestic cats are still too wild, it's b/c domestic cats are cats.
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Hitman, it's not a 'joke' to say a creature should be killed. There are already too many people in the world who disregard the value of the life of a domestic animal and laugh it off in such ways. I have had pets be their victims, so no, it's not a 'joke', it's cruel.

Your post does show you know absolutely nothing about cats, and it's true that all hate is based on ignorance. I have never known anyone who actually had been around cats and knew them well 'hate' them. If you don't like them, prefer not to own one, fine, but 'joking' harm to someone else's pet is not funny or cool, and not okay.
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I moggies so it infuriates me when anyone goes on about hating them or killing them and to think we should take that well as a joke is quite frankly sick! It's just not on at all
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I moggies so it infuriates me when anyone goes on about hating them or killing them and to think we should take that well as a joke is quite frankly sick! It's just not on at all
You're right

I must admit that to me cat hating is the one unforgiveable sin I can't deal with in a person. I don't mean just that they don't like their company, that's not it, it's the venomous hatred, the 'jokes' or comments of killing them, people who aim for them when they cross the street, people who have cat killing bumper stickers, etc. BTW I also feel the same way about people who hurt dogs!
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I keep watching that animal cops show on APL... some of those people need to be locked up for all eternity, and then they either never get prosecuted due to lack of evidence or a fine. Then I am sad.

If this archaeology gig doesn't work out maybe I could be an animal cop. I could see myself doing that.

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I keep watching that animal cops show on APL... some of those people need to be locked up for all eternity, and then they either never get prosecuted due to lack of evidence or a fine. Then I am sad.

If this archaeology gig doesn't work out maybe I could be an animal cop. I could see myself doing that.

HAPPY THOUGHTS, EVERYONE!

I'm addicted to that show!

Where I grew up, your social status was sort of encapsulated in your dog. So all the gang bangers had HUGE rotties and pit bulls. They were all kept chained (not tied with leads or fenced....chained) in back yards and routinely beat into submission.

Honestly I think felony animal cruelty charges should be more harsh (especially embedded collar cases.....those are particularly disturbing/digusting). Also, there needs to be stricter rules about how cats are kept (I know this is more of a local/city decision, but in general). My parents live in a nice neighborhood now and the lady across the street is somewhat of a hippy and an animal lover. She's got these two lovely cats, Preston and Stewart, but they rarely get in the house and are often in terrible condition. The lady tries to come off as this nice animal/cat lover, and then I look at her cats, who aren't kept properly inside, their eyes are weepy with chronic cold and upper respiratory infection, and the long-haired one has terrible mats in his fur.

HAPPY (cat) THOUGHT: I have to brush Beckham's teeth every night w/ two different brushes, and he actually lets me do this without ripping me apart! He seems torn between the discomfort of having it done and his love of the taste of the cat toothpaste, hehe.
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I'm addicted to that show!

Where I grew up, your social status was sort of encapsulated in your dog. So all the gang bangers had HUGE rotties and pit bulls. They were all kept chained (not tied with leads or fenced....chained) in back yards and routinely beat into submission.

Honestly I think felony animal cruelty charges should be more harsh (especially embedded collar cases.....those are particularly disturbing/digusting). Also, there needs to be stricter rules about how cats are kept (I know this is more of a local/city decision, but in general). My parents live in a nice neighborhood now and the lady across the street is somewhat of a hippy and an animal lover. She's got these two lovely cats, Preston and Stewart, but they rarely get in the house and are often in terrible condition. The lady tries to come off as this nice animal/cat lover, and then I look at her cats, who aren't kept properly inside, their eyes are weepy with chronic cold and upper respiratory infection, and the long-haired one has terrible mats in his fur.

HAPPY (cat) THOUGHT: I have to brush Beckham's teeth every night w/ two different brushes, and he actually lets me do this without ripping me apart! He seems torn between the discomfort of having it done and his love of the taste of the cat toothpaste, hehe.
wow, that's impressive
though I bet most of our cats would let us brush their teeth... except ranger. Doing anything to Ranger is a two-person job.... one to pin her legs and immobilize her and the other one to do whatever needs to be done.

I agree on the stricter laws, and especially on the imbedded collars. I just can't imagine how someone could let that happen.

Our cats spend a lot of time outside but they're all in good shape... no fleas or mats or weepy eyes or any of that. Though when I get a cat it's going to be an inside cat, all the problems that go along with the inside/outside thing aren't really worth it.

Here's my happy thought... you know what the best thing is? When your cat has kittens, and their mommy does all the taking care of them and they can play with each other when you're not interested and all you really have to do is sit there and go "awwwwww!"
I miss having kittens around.
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