Meghan
Refugee
It'd be bitch-slaps all round.Maggie1 said:I like to wonder what would happen if she pissed off Larry
It'd be bitch-slaps all round.Maggie1 said:I like to wonder what would happen if she pissed off Larry
I'm glad someone could express what I was thinking.yolland said:
I think it's pretty presumptuous and mean-spirited to make such blanket assertions about the character of someone we "know" only from gossipy Oooh-get-THIS! stories about celebrities on their worst behavior. Don't all of us have friends or relatives whom we love dearly and respect greatly--but can admittedly be total assholes from time to time, and probably are perceived largely in that light by many others? I know I do. One of my brothers is an incorrigible hothead--I can easily imagine him throwing a phone at someone whom he thought stole something from him, and I've seen him punch people who stoked his overblown how-dare-you-condescend-to me tendencies. But he has the patience of a saint with the emotionally disturbed adults he works with for a living, and no one I know is better at rallying people together to plan surprise parties and impromptu reunions, or finding the truly perfect gift to give at just the right time. Or one of my closest friends, a lot of people find her arrogant and overbearing, and I can see where they're coming from, she can indeed be just that; but she's also the sort who'll drive 600 miles roundtrip spur of the moment to hold a friend's hand the weekend their spouse moves out--or to open her house and her life to them, no questions asked, no rent required, for a few months until they're back on their feet.
People are like that; they may be prickly or hard to handle when their worst sides come to the fore, and they can really let you down sometimes, but it doesn't mean they're unworthy through-and-through, or incapable of truly heroic loyalty or generosity at other times. But sometimes it takes someone who knows you the way a friend does to see that. I certainly have no idea who the Naomi Campbell her friends know is, and I don't much care either, but it seems pretty unwarranted to me to leap to the conclusion that she's merely a "bitch" or a "twat" based on a handful of anecdotes meant to shock with glimpses of her at her worst.
yolland said:
I think it's pretty presumptuous and mean-spirited to make such blanket assertions about the character of someone we "know" only from gossipy Oooh-get-THIS! stories about celebrities on their worst behavior.
Meghan said:Something I just remembered, (also from U2 at the end of the world) is that one of the reasons Adam fell in love with Naomi was because he liked her attitude and fiesty nature.
yolland said:
I think it's pretty presumptuous and mean-spirited to make such blanket assertions about the character of someone we "know" only from gossipy Oooh-get-THIS! stories about celebrities on their worst behavior. Don't all of us have friends or relatives whom we love dearly and respect greatly--but can admittedly be total assholes from time to time, and probably are perceived largely in that light by many others? I know I do. One of my brothers is an incorrigible hothead--I can easily imagine him throwing a phone at someone whom he thought stole something from him, and I've seen him punch people who stoked his overblown how-dare-you-condescend-to me tendencies. But he has the patience of a saint with the emotionally disturbed adults he works with for a living, and no one I know is better at rallying people together to plan surprise parties and impromptu reunions, or finding the truly perfect gift to give at just the right time. Or one of my closest friends, a lot of people find her arrogant and overbearing, and I can see where they're coming from, she can indeed be just that; but she's also the sort who'll drive 600 miles roundtrip spur of the moment to hold a friend's hand the weekend their spouse moves out--or to open her house and her life to them, no questions asked, no rent required, for a few months until they're back on their feet.
People are like that; they may be prickly or hard to handle when their worst sides come to the fore, and they can really let you down sometimes, but it doesn't mean they're unworthy through-and-through, or incapable of truly heroic loyalty or generosity at other times. But sometimes it takes someone who knows you the way a friend does to see that. I certainly have no idea who the Naomi Campbell her friends know is, and I don't much care either, but it seems pretty unwarranted to me to leap to the conclusion that she's merely a "bitch" or a "twat" based on a handful of anecdotes meant to shock with glimpses of her at her worst.
U2Girl1978 said:We need to take what the media says with a grain of salt because they put a spin on everything.
If you want to see the true measure of a man, watch how he treats his inferiors, not his equals.
faithingrace said:I'd like to know why when you are beautiful it is considered sassy or fiesty? For the rest of us it is considered rude or bitchy?
yolland said:
I think it's pretty presumptuous and mean-spirited to make such blanket assertions about the character of someone we "know" only from gossipy Oooh-get-THIS! stories about celebrities on their worst behavior. Don't all of us have friends or relatives whom we love dearly and respect greatly--but can admittedly be total assholes from time to time, and probably are perceived largely in that light by many others? I know I do. One of my brothers is an incorrigible hothead--I can easily imagine him throwing a phone at someone whom he thought stole something from him, and I've seen him punch people who stoked his overblown how-dare-you-condescend-to me tendencies. But he has the patience of a saint with the emotionally disturbed adults he works with for a living, and no one I know is better at rallying people together to plan surprise parties and impromptu reunions, or finding the truly perfect gift to give at just the right time. Or one of my closest friends, a lot of people find her arrogant and overbearing, and I can see where they're coming from, she can indeed be just that; but she's also the sort who'll drive 600 miles roundtrip spur of the moment to hold a friend's hand the weekend their spouse moves out--or to open her house and her life to them, no questions asked, no rent required, for a few months until they're back on their feet.
People are like that; they may be prickly or hard to handle when their worst sides come to the fore, and they can really let you down sometimes, but it doesn't mean they're unworthy through-and-through, or incapable of truly heroic loyalty or generosity at other times. But sometimes it takes someone who knows you the way a friend does to see that. I certainly have no idea who the Naomi Campbell her friends know is, and I don't much care either, but it seems pretty unwarranted to me to leap to the conclusion that she's merely a "bitch" or a "twat" based on a handful of anecdotes meant to shock with glimpses of her at her worst.
faithingrace said:I'd like to know why when you are beautiful it is considered sassy or fiesty? For the rest of us it is considered rude or bitchy?
At 2am everyone's settled in and had a shower, and U2 congregates on a high piazza from which they can look down on the crowd, who are finally dispersing, and drink wine. There's Edge and Aislinn, Larry and Ann, Adam and Naomi, Ned and Maurice, Christy, Chanty - a Dublin friend of Edge's - Sheila, Eileen, Dennis, and Bono. Naomi decides she's going to get some food and goes off to find the hotel kitchen. Officially it's shut down, but she implies that if she can get at a stove she'll whip up something herself. Maybe that's a threat designed to stir sleeping chefs to action, maybe it's sincere. I don't know, I don't care. Everone here is just enjoying the moon and the night and company. After a while, though, Adam begins to wonder where his fiancee's gone. Christy (who often seems to act as Naomi's conscience - or at least social governor) says she'll go check. She comes back a few minutes later with news that Naomi is in the middle of a full-pitched screaming battle downstairs. Adam looks half concerned. "Is she fighting with anyone employed by me?" "No," Christy says. "She fighting with the chef." "Oh." Adam relaxes. "That's fine." ......Naomi's no-nonsense air of entitlement rubs some of these people the wrong way. Adam's fiancee is graceful and full of style, but she occasionally seems to think employee is another name for servant. One spoiled crew member whispered to me that Naomi was the person on the tour most likely to have a flight case dropped on her head. Naomi returns to our company, stretches languidly across the back of Adam's chair, and pouts that the chef, who refused to cook, would not stand aside and let her at the stove. She is upset and she is going to bed. She kisses Adam goodnight, kisses Christy goodnight, waves to everone else, and then walks straight into the glass door with a shuddering crash. Everyone jumps up, but Naomi just reels back, laughs, and tries again, this time passing through the open side and back into the hotel. "That'll straighten her out," says the gallant Adam. -Bill Flanagan's Until The End Of The World
Bibien said:I recently read an interview with Naomi where she tells she's still good friends with Adam. If they ask her if he was the right man at the wrong time, she says that a lot of people say that but that he's happy now.
She also tells that he still send her mother flowers and he's a good person.
I don't want to judge her, I don't know her, but I'm sure she's ok, otherwise the band wouldn't stay in touch with her. I think.
Still this one makes me laugh:
At 2am everyone's settled in and had a shower, and U2 congregates on a high piazza from which they can look down on the crowd, who are finally dispersing, and drink wine. There's Edge and Aislinn, Larry and Ann, Adam and Naomi, Ned and Maurice, Christy, Chanty - a Dublin friend of Edge's - Sheila, Eileen, Dennis, and Bono. Naomi decides she's going to get some food and goes off to find the hotel kitchen. Officially it's shut down, but she implies that if she can get at a stove she'll whip up something herself. Maybe that's a threat designed to stir sleeping chefs to action, maybe it's sincere. I don't know, I don't care. Everone here is just enjoying the moon and the night and company. After a while, though, Adam begins to wonder where his fiancee's gone. Christy (who often seems to act as Naomi's conscience - or at least social governor) says she'll go check. She comes back a few minutes later with news that Naomi is in the middle of a full-pitched screaming battle downstairs. Adam looks half concerned. "Is she fighting with anyone employed by me?" "No," Christy says. "She fighting with the chef." "Oh." Adam relaxes. "That's fine." ......Naomi's no-nonsense air of entitlement rubs some of these people the wrong way. Adam's fiancee is graceful and full of style, but she occasionally seems to think employee is another name for servant. One spoiled crew member whispered to me that Naomi was the person on the tour most likely to have a flight case dropped on her head. Naomi returns to our company, stretches languidly across the back of Adam's chair, and pouts that the chef, who refused to cook, would not stand aside and let her at the stove. She is upset and she is going to bed. She kisses Adam goodnight, kisses Christy goodnight, waves to everone else, and then walks straight into the glass door with a shuddering crash. Everyone jumps up, but Naomi just reels back, laughs, and tries again, this time passing through the open side and back into the hotel. "That'll straighten her out," says the gallant Adam. -Bill Flanagan's Until The End Of The World
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Devlin said:Coming from the other side of this --- i.e. having a personality VERY similar to Naomi's: explosive temper, prickly as a cactus..that whole thing -- I have to say you guys sound very like a lot of people I've met during a bad period. I'm a mean, evil bitch because I snap and snarl when people try to touch and/or talk to me. My reason -- which most people never bother to ask beforehand -- being I'm in a lot of pain and want to be left alone.
I dunno. Maybe she is a bitch. Maybe she isn't. But the truth is, we don't know this woman.
And meeting her a few times does NOT constitute knowing her.
I mean, seriously, I recently returned to a vet office I used to work at to set up an appointment. The lady, who used to be a customer, who set up the appointment was flabbergasted that I could be so pleasant at all times after seeing what an asshole the head doctor was.
All that, I said, to say this: It could be an act. Really.
a-mole said:hehe
I think the fact that she is able to laugh it off is quite cool
I would be embarrassed to no end