LuvandPeace1980
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It does looks like it's going to be pretty huge and I have only ever seen Popmart before so
I just wanna see what people feel...
I just wanna see what people feel...
Who thinks The Vertigo(EuropeLeg) tour will be a bigger spectacle than ZOO TV/Popmart
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the edges plec
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Hmm as good as zooropa i think it will be a massive show but i don't think it will on the same scale as zooropa.
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ummmm mr edges plec, dont u mean on the same scale as popmart? 
no way it wont be anywhere near as big as either
I WANT ZOO TV 2!
no way it wont be anywhere near as big as either
I WANT ZOO TV 2!
mirrorballman
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ZooTV will never be topped! As great as the new stage looks...but ZooTV 
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Zoo TV was more about the theatrics than the stage necessarily. (IMO) Vertigo is just like elevation in that it's really just about performing the songs the best they can will some fantastic lighting (that part is better than Elevation though) to enhance the feeling of the music. Zoo TV was a spectacle because of the costumes, the alter ego's, the movie montages, and the goosestepping Will the stage be bigger than Zoo TV's stage? Beats me. How big was Zoo TV's stage?
Will the stage be bigger than Zoo TV's stage? Beats me. How big was Zoo TV's stage?
Yeah I think you nailed it there Lance - the Zoo TV / Zooropa concerts were as much about theatrics and spectacle as the music. I'm wary of comparing tours, because they ultimately reflect the album (broadly speaking) and are therefore different each time.
I think that part of the reason that we are all so in awe of Zoo TV, was that it was such a departure from what had gone before. U2 aside, I had been to many concerts beforehand and never EVER seen anything like it in my life. I took a first time concert goer to Zooropa and she was blown away completely.
Elevation reflected an album that was more about intimacy and a return to 4 guys playing music in a room, hence the stripped down (by U2 standards that is) stage sets. The lighting was brilliant, but with the exception of "The Fly" and "Bullet", was subtle enough to be unobtrusive while still enhancing the concert.
I think that Vertigo will be a stunning show and judging by the stage photos now appearing, the Europeans are in for a night to remember.
I think that part of the reason that we are all so in awe of Zoo TV, was that it was such a departure from what had gone before. U2 aside, I had been to many concerts beforehand and never EVER seen anything like it in my life. I took a first time concert goer to Zooropa and she was blown away completely.
Elevation reflected an album that was more about intimacy and a return to 4 guys playing music in a room, hence the stripped down (by U2 standards that is) stage sets. The lighting was brilliant, but with the exception of "The Fly" and "Bullet", was subtle enough to be unobtrusive while still enhancing the concert.
I think that Vertigo will be a stunning show and judging by the stage photos now appearing, the Europeans are in for a night to remember.
the edges plec
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Spot on there Steve c.I also think that with the internet that we know just what to expect(the latest pictures of the Brussels stage set up) whereas with zooropa i did'nt have a clue what to expect and was amazed at the size of it all.
ElectricalVoice
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stevec said:
Agree. I think Popmart was the very top. And I think it's way too soon to say what Vertigo will give us here in Europe. If they wanted to top Popmart or Zoo, they could, but maybe that's just not the point for them right now.
But it sure looks cool! Looks high-tec
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Liesje
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I doubt it since it doesn't seem like their purpose is trying to top ZooTV and/or PopMart when it comes to stage design, lighting, and theatrics. I like it for what it is and I like ZooTV and PopMart for what they were.
Lancemc said:Zoo TV was more about the theatrics than the stage necessarily. (IMO) Vertigo is just like elevation in that it's really just about performing the songs the best they can will some fantastic lighting (that part is better than Elevation though) to enhance the feeling of the music. Zoo TV was a spectacle because of the costumes, the alter ego's, the movie montages, and the goosestepping
Great post Lance cudnt agree more!!!
Mullen4Prez
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I hope it will be bigger.
What is wrong with the last 2 albums? What do you expect U2 to be doing DJing at your local club? This is a rock band that has spoiled the fans rotton by pushing and streaching the limits of what rock can be, and now that they have went back to just playing the 4 interments in a more classic sense they get bashed for it...give me a break.
Needle_Chill
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Where are the stage photos?
Yahweh said:
That's funny because you were criticising us for living in the past, but that is exactly what U2 are doing.
So you are contradicting yourself because by your post i can presume you actually LIKE the last 2 albums. I think you should clear your mind.
So do you want to go back or go forward?
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mirrorballman
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as much as i like the new stage (im very suprised because i thought it might be a cheap ripoff of the first leg, but it looks really good!), you cannot TOP ZooTV/Zooropa because ZooTV/Zooropa was perfection!!!
The monstrosity/complexity of the stage, cars hanging around as spotlights, massive screens and small television sets around the stage...it was a massive thing and state of the art...
Popmart, it tried to be bigger than ZooTV, but it was even too big for the band...
Vertigo, again, I like the stage probably more than Popmart. But it's no match for ZooTV/Zooropa...
But we shall wait and judge after the tour, its not fair to already "critizise" it...
The monstrosity/complexity of the stage, cars hanging around as spotlights, massive screens and small television sets around the stage...it was a massive thing and state of the art...
Popmart, it tried to be bigger than ZooTV, but it was even too big for the band...
Vertigo, again, I like the stage probably more than Popmart. But it's no match for ZooTV/Zooropa...
But we shall wait and judge after the tour, its not fair to already "critizise" it...
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Here's hoping U2 bring a stadium tour to Australia. That Vertigo stage looks great. I like it when U2 show off
This show can never top Popmart ór Zoo-TV because these shows/stages had a concept! The music at both these tours were made for that tour and that tout was made for the music. It was all thought out years in advance!
This stage is big of course and it wíll be a great spectacle. I just have the feeling that it's rushed! Willie had only a couple of wééks to come up with a design... It just looks to 'flat' to me!
Another thing to keep in mind is that Zoo-TV ánd Popmart were top of the bill back then! This Vertigo stage is something that Bon Jovi of the Stones can pull of with ease! Popmart and Zoo-TV were só big back then... It was never been seen!
So my 3 thoughts :
- I'm happy i'ts not just a bigger version of the arena stage
- I'm a bit disappointed on the design.. It seems rushed to me
- With today's technology it's a nice stage.. But Popmart and Zoo were MUCH larger (in many ways)
This stage is big of course and it wíll be a great spectacle. I just have the feeling that it's rushed! Willie had only a couple of wééks to come up with a design... It just looks to 'flat' to me!
Another thing to keep in mind is that Zoo-TV ánd Popmart were top of the bill back then! This Vertigo stage is something that Bon Jovi of the Stones can pull of with ease! Popmart and Zoo-TV were só big back then... It was never been seen!
So my 3 thoughts :
- I'm happy i'ts not just a bigger version of the arena stage
- I'm a bit disappointed on the design.. It seems rushed to me
- With today's technology it's a nice stage.. But Popmart and Zoo were MUCH larger (in many ways)
It doesn't matter what it can do! I'm sure it can do more then the Zoo-TV and the Popmart stage together! That's the thing with technology..KUEFC09U2 said:
But why does everybody agree then that Zoo-TV can never be topped? Because it had a good concept and a matching design! The same thing for Popmart...
Again, I'm not saying it's a crappy stage... It has the latest technology and is nothing like the arena stage, so I'm very happy with that!
I just have the feeling that this stage is rushed... It is not a 'Willie' kind of stage... Simple painted PA towering with screens on top? A large led-wall backdrop? Curved extensions to the sides? The design could have been a lot better if Willie (and others) had more time...
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ElectricalVoice
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I think the design is very good. Of course ZooTV can be topped (in my opinion they topped it with popmart - which had a even more ironic and genious concept). It just depends on who is experiencing it.
But this stage looks awesome. It's sooo U2.
It just looks ... heavy.
But this stage looks awesome. It's sooo U2.
It just looks ... heavy.
Technically the show will be awesome.. But the design could have been better I think.. Stacking the PA with screens on top is weird (imo)... Why not hanging the PA on top (in a rounder way) with the screens haning under there? Why using the back of the arena stage, while the stadium stage is much wider?KUEFC09U2 said:
I don't know, it just seems rushed to me.. And Willie and Mark could have done a much better job when given more time...
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