bono_212 said:I don't think you can say that a post from 1992 about Achtung baby being a horrible album is crap....this was such a huge change I'm sure (not that I was a fan then) and it takes a while for change, I'm of the opinion that that long from now more people will be receptive to HTDAAB.
Sting said:Maybe this guy just needed some time... like... 10 years LOL
CTU2fan said:Not sure how many of you guys were around then, U2-wise...I've been into U2 since '83 and I can tell you, that guy's opinion of AB was very typical. At the time a lot of people liked U2 for their "message"...whereas today most folks (around here anyway) complain about Bono's speeches etc. For them, the more personal themes of AB were a major turn-off. Also keep in mind that U2 didn't have nearly the music catalog that they've got now; many people saw no reason to retire favorites like SBS & NYD, not to mention 40.
Re: ZooTV...at the time the U2 concert experience had been the stripped down "all about the music" type of gig. At this point we're used to the spectacle, after Zoo, Pop, and Vertigo...but in '92 ZooTV was a radical departure from what they'd done before.
Just something to keep in mind. Of course, music is a matter of taste...and it's easy to lose perspective, especially here at Interference where it seems the majority are very positive about AB/Zoo & Pop/Popmart, but there are/were a lot of fans who never did "get" the '90's U2, and think everything post-R&H is crap to this day.
And while we're at it...not sure you could find anything online, maybe, but there was a ton of U2-bashing going on over R&H. You can guess the general theme I'm sure...a bunch of self-righteous American critics who labeled U2 "phony" for all the American-music-love surrounding R&H, and a bunch or European critics trying to make a buck, trashing U2 as "wanna-be Americans" (of course that never stopped, did it?). The R&H bashers, now THERE were a bunch of idiots
Wow this is a rambling post...I shouldn't post after midnight I guess
CTU2fan said:
And while we're at it...not sure you could find anything online, maybe, but there was a ton of U2-bashing going on over R&H. You can guess the general theme I'm sure...a bunch of self-righteous American critics who labeled U2 "phony" for all the American-music-love surrounding R&H, and a bunch or European critics trying to make a buck, trashing U2 as "wanna-be Americans" (of course that never stopped, did it?). The R&H bashers, now THERE were a bunch of idiots
Wow this is a rambling post...I shouldn't post after midnight I guess
CTU2fan said:Not sure how many of you guys were around then, U2-wise...I've been into U2 since '83 and I can tell you, that guy's opinion of AB was very typical.
Axver said:This whole board will be a laugh in ten years.
CTU2fan said:Not sure how many of you guys were around then, U2-wise...I've been into U2 since '83 and I can tell you, that guy's opinion of AB was very typical. At the time a lot of people liked U2 for their "message"...whereas today most folks (around here anyway) complain about Bono's speeches etc. For them, the more personal themes of AB were a major turn-off. Also keep in mind that U2 didn't have nearly the music catalog that they've got now; many people saw no reason to retire favorites like SBS & NYD, not to mention 40.
Re: ZooTV...at the time the U2 concert experience had been the stripped down "all about the music" type of gig. At this point we're used to the spectacle, after Zoo, Pop, and Vertigo...but in '92 ZooTV was a radical departure from what they'd done before.
Just something to keep in mind. Of course, music is a matter of taste...and it's easy to lose perspective, especially here at Interference where it seems the majority are very positive about AB/Zoo & Pop/Popmart, but there are/were a lot of fans who never did "get" the '90's U2, and think everything post-R&H is crap to this day.
And while we're at it...not sure you could find anything online, maybe, but there was a ton of U2-bashing going on over R&H. You can guess the general theme I'm sure...a bunch of self-righteous American critics who labeled U2 "phony" for all the American-music-love surrounding R&H, and a bunch or European critics trying to make a buck, trashing U2 as "wanna-be Americans" (of course that never stopped, did it?). The R&H bashers, now THERE were a bunch of idiots
Wow this is a rambling post...I shouldn't post after midnight I guess