MERGED -->irritated by reviews? + type of review my posts are aimed at...+coincidence

[KUEFC09U2]

i mean are these shows really as bad as some people make out? they always end up comparing it too the last tour, which to be fair is getting abit tired, in fairness i think alot of them are taking the ticket problems and just going to the shows with the intent of being stubborn,

i mean are they that bad? is it me being short sighted?

[walkon11]

Originally posted by KUEFC09U2
i mean are these shows really as bad as some people make out? they always end up comparing it too the last tour, which to be fair is getting abit tired, in fairness i think alot of them are taking the ticket problems and just going to the shows with the intent of being stubborn,

i mean are they that bad? is it me being short sighted?

To be honest, I've noticed that too.

I've just stopped reading most of them...besides the ones with the pictures on them.

[KUEFC09U2]

Originally posted by walkon11


To be honest, I've noticed that too.

I've just stopped reading most of them...besides the ones with the pictures on them.

are we the ones that are wrong?

[Axver]

It seems that if you have a complaint, you're more likely to post a review. I've spoken to heaps of people who've said the shows have been awesome and they just don't understand the complainers ... but who's posting the reviews? People with something to gripe about, of course. It's usually true that the negative folks make more noise.

[walkon11]

Originally posted by KUEFC09U2
are we the ones that are wrong?

I've seen one show, and I thought it surpassed both Elevation shows I went to. I personally think that there are many ideas on how this tour should be run (setlist, design, stage, etc.). Since U2 can't appease ALL ideas, they stick with one and get abuse for what they didn't do instead for what they did (most of the time). I choose to go into each concert knowing I'm listening to U2, MY favorite band. Even if they don't play tunes I want them to play, 99% of the concert is so well done, so great that I could care less if they didn't play "Acrobat".

[KUEFC09U2]

Originally posted by Axver
It seems that if you have a complaint, you're more likely to post a review. I've spoken to heaps of people who've said the shows have been awesome and they just don't understand the complainers ... but who's posting the reviews? People with something to gripe about, of course. It's usually true that the negative folks make more noise.

suppose, i have never really thought about it like that, as i said also maybe some of the ones with the complaints, maybe they are still angry about only being able to get "nosebleeds"

[FlyYourKite]

Seems like a lot of the people who have negative things to say don't go into a lengthy review at all. Just a short little paragraph or even a sentence about how much the show "sucked". I'm sorry, but could you please elaborate? They may not even mention any good points...now, I've only seen one U2 show in my life but come on now, there has to be at least something you're happy with! We should all just choose to ignore them.

[MTEdge]

Originally posted by Axver
It seems that if you have a complaint, you're more likely to post a review. I've spoken to heaps of people who've said the shows have been awesome and they just don't understand the complainers ... but who's posting the reviews? People with something to gripe about, of course. It's usually true that the negative folks make more noise.

Extremely well said.

[sociopathetic]

This forum is great but you should get your info from more than one source but when it comes to reviews I don't give much weight to them. Opinions are like a**holes, everybody has one and some are.

[ramblin rose]

These are probably the same people who reviewed HTDAAB on amazon.com

[KUEFC09U2]

so do you think the reviews are what the majority of people who leave the venue think? or just a small minority?

[neutral]

Well I'm getting more irritated by people who try convince me that I show I went to "sucked" when I loved it, because they saw the setlist and read some reviews.


But to answer your question, I think a lot of it is just that people are far more likely to voice a complaint about something in general, than a positive feeling. I remember after seeing that VH1 special not too long ago and thinking it was great, coming to the forum and seeing "omg that sucked!! what a piece of crap!" etc etc and wondering if I was wrong.

[sociopathetic]

Originally posted by KUEFC09U2
so do you think the reviews are what the majority of people who leave the venue think? or just a small minority?

I think it's important to get hung up on what other people think. Tastes and perceptions vary, as do opinions. I happen to prefer Pop to Joshua Tree but hey that's my opinion. There's no right or wrong answer.

[KUEFC09U2]

Originally posted by neutral
Well I'm getting more irritated by people who try convince me that I show I went to "sucked" when I loved it, because they saw the setlist and read some reviews.


But to answer your question, I think a lot of it is just that people are far more likely to voice a complaint about something in general, than a positive feeling. I remember after seeing that VH1 special not too long ago and thinking it was great, coming to the forum and seeing "omg that sucked!! what a piece of crap!" etc etc and wondering if I was wrong.

so in other words, the complaners are in the minority really

[corianderstem]

I think the majority of people in attendance at any given venue aren't die-hard fans like us. They probably have no idea that there are places online to go and talk about a show. Their reaction is likely along the lines of,

"The U2 show? Yeah, it was pretty fucking awesome. Hey, did you watch Survivor last night?"

[Chizip]

no offense KUEFC09U2, but it seems like you are pretty sensitive to any criticism of U2

obviously you love the band, as we all do, but it seems like whenever anyone tries to make any kind of complaint, you jump in and try to dispute it

you just need to realize that we all love U2, even if we say something that may not be 100% positive about them

so my advice is just ignore the complainers and just focus on all the positive things people are saying, because contrary to how it may seem, there are a lot of people saying a lot of good things about U2

[romi]

The majority of the type of people who post reviews on sites like u2tours.com are the diehards. Because people are not as likely to post reviews if they just thought the show was OK, that leaves the people that really had a great time and the people who were really dissapointed.

What does this mean? It means that out of the diehard fans, there a large number who were not satisfied.

[RademR]

I dont see how people can not like this tour. I saw Phily 5/14 and if i HAD to pick the worst show between it and the two Chicago shows I went to, I would pick Philly.

However, I've seen a lot of bands over the years and the Philly concert still killed anything else I've ever seen.

My only two "complaints" about the Philly show was I felt although the crowd sang along a lot, no one was really getting down. I had a perfect view right in front of the stage from the mid section, during "Vertigo" more than half the GA crowd stood still. that's not an exaggeration. Maybe I keep expecting a Slane crowd reaction, I thought the Chicago audience was very strong.

Another thing is I thought Bono didn't really interact that much with the crowd. Ya, he brought up two girls during "into the heart" and the dancing with "mysterious ways," but that's basically scripted. He brings up a child every time they do it, he lays down in the exact same spot on the stage, etc.

But I don't know how people can complain about the rest of the band, Adam and Larry interact with the crowd more than ever before...Adam is going crazy this tour. I went crazy when I saw Edge come out on the ellipse and do his "Electric Co" solo. Great stuff.

These two complaints are so minor. I don't think of them at all during the show, I just do it now as I sit back and think about something to complain about. They are by far overshadowed by the 1,434 other things that made this show rock!!

People just like complaining. It's u2, people are expected perfection.

[romi]

Hmmm. The complaints you brought up are the same ones (sometimes I as well) bring up.. the words 'contrived' and 'scripted' have been coming up a lot

[ImOuttaControl]

Complaints don't bother me as long as the person is correctly informed--I hate reading negative reviews where the person reviewing doesn't know what the hell they're talking about(I'm speaking of non-subjective things).

There are legitimate complaints people can make, but I don't see why people can't just take the show for what it is and enjoy it. I do miss the heart and soul of the Elevation tour, and things do seem a bit scripted, like bringing "Laura" on stage 2 nights in a row in Chicago and Bono's speeches are pretty much exactly the same from night to night...but I still had an awesome time and wouldn't trade it for anything.