no he is being sarcastic because thats what the people who do like it sayruffian said:
we are actually agreeing again ?
but if we were to do the same thing but about something they complain about its a whole different kettle of fish
From ZooTV to Vertigo - A Setlist Analysis
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but if we were to do the same thing but about something they complain about its a whole different kettle of fish
KEVIN051269
Refugee
My 2 pence worth and reflections on Eurigo tour (FYI I saw Twickenham 1, Chorzow and Barcelona)
1.Europe deserved more variation between setlists even though most cities were not multiple shows…Why?…..because people DO travel.
Even though the last show I saw was the best I have ever seen, I still cant help feeling how it would have ‘gone off’ if a cheeky Out of Control had been inserted (instead of ABOY for example). Surely 2 or 3 changes each night would not disrupt the flow of the show ? Surely the band would be ‘sharper’ if the unexpected is introduced. I’ve never been in a band or on a stage in front of thousands but I would imagine it could get a bit 9 to 5 if things don’t get ‘shaken up’ once in a while?
2. OOTS was a great addition with the full band, but……Why did they ‘rehearse’ it for one(two?) shows, play it for the DVD shoot in Milan, then not play it again ? This means that the ‘tour souvenir’ is not going to be representative of what the majority saw.
3. The stage was great, lighting superb…..shame most people didn’t get to see the full effect! The show at Twickenham was vastly inferior to the others I saw purely down to the daylight. I know Willie Williams can’t control the setting of the sun but would a stage roof not have helped? The only answer to this one is to try and encourage the local authorities to be more lenient with the curfews, which isn’t gonna happen. I just think it’s a shame the majority wouldn’t have seen how the show was supposed to look.
4. Vertigo x2…..Hmmm very mixed feelings on this as I can see both arguments. Lets just say the second Vertigo is necessary
5. What happened to the ‘Everyones’ ?
6. Why was the beautiful intro to NYD never used again after Brussels ?
In conclusion Spontaneity Vs showbiz. Personally I’d prefer the spontaneity, but showbiz DOES bring in the bucks
1.Europe deserved more variation between setlists even though most cities were not multiple shows…Why?…..because people DO travel.
Even though the last show I saw was the best I have ever seen, I still cant help feeling how it would have ‘gone off’ if a cheeky Out of Control had been inserted (instead of ABOY for example). Surely 2 or 3 changes each night would not disrupt the flow of the show ? Surely the band would be ‘sharper’ if the unexpected is introduced. I’ve never been in a band or on a stage in front of thousands but I would imagine it could get a bit 9 to 5 if things don’t get ‘shaken up’ once in a while?
2. OOTS was a great addition with the full band, but……Why did they ‘rehearse’ it for one(two?) shows, play it for the DVD shoot in Milan, then not play it again ? This means that the ‘tour souvenir’ is not going to be representative of what the majority saw.
3. The stage was great, lighting superb…..shame most people didn’t get to see the full effect! The show at Twickenham was vastly inferior to the others I saw purely down to the daylight. I know Willie Williams can’t control the setting of the sun but would a stage roof not have helped? The only answer to this one is to try and encourage the local authorities to be more lenient with the curfews, which isn’t gonna happen. I just think it’s a shame the majority wouldn’t have seen how the show was supposed to look.
4. Vertigo x2…..Hmmm very mixed feelings on this as I can see both arguments. Lets just say the second Vertigo is necessary
5. What happened to the ‘Everyones’ ?
6. Why was the beautiful intro to NYD never used again after Brussels ?
In conclusion Spontaneity Vs showbiz. Personally I’d prefer the spontaneity, but showbiz DOES bring in the bucks
chrissybaby
Refugee
good post kevin.
but.... u2 have never eally mixed things up (lovetown notwithstanding). I agree that the place would go crazy, down the front at least, if a real rare gem or even something out of the ordinary was played, but by now u2 fans surely cant be expecting this to happen.
the light thing isn't that cut and dry imo. i saw cardiff and manchester and paris. it was dark in cardiff, almost dark in paris, but the thrill of seeing electric co in broad daylight, edge right in front of me, is a standout moment of the tour personally.
but.... u2 have never eally mixed things up (lovetown notwithstanding). I agree that the place would go crazy, down the front at least, if a real rare gem or even something out of the ordinary was played, but by now u2 fans surely cant be expecting this to happen.
the light thing isn't that cut and dry imo. i saw cardiff and manchester and paris. it was dark in cardiff, almost dark in paris, but the thrill of seeing electric co in broad daylight, edge right in front of me, is a standout moment of the tour personally.
chrissybaby
Refugee
KUEFC09U2 said:
yup, a bit later on the second night though! First night it wasn't even properly dark for Streets!
God Part III
Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid
Shade said:
Don't you have anything better to do than complaining about someone complaining over something that should be and is constantly complained about. Since I don't complain about what they complain about I see no reason why I should be called a complainer like those complainers who actually are complaining, unlike me.
Excuse me people but U2 have always been a political band and will always be a political band if you dont like it dont go to the shows. In my mind it is actually one of the things that keeps U2 going is the fact that they can bring music politics and religion together and make what they consider in their own heads and many other peoples heads big changes to the world.
martha
Blue Crack Supplier
1. I imagine that most people who voted in the tour poll had not attended a show from each tour. I hadn't, so I didn't vote.
2. People like to complain about setlists to shows they haven't been to because:
a. they like a variety on their boots
b. complaining about setlists makes them seem like an insider/diehard fan
c. they have no idea of the band's history of not changing setlists
2. People like to complain about setlists to shows they haven't been to because:
a. they like a variety on their boots
b. complaining about setlists makes them seem like an insider/diehard fan
c. they have no idea of the band's history of not changing setlists
