acrobat_baby said:
This isn't a thread about Boston, so I won't even go there. Someone asked about the flagship, and who they are, so I gave my opinion. Of course no one can truly 'plot' their way on stage, but don't tell me you just hung your flags on the front rail out of the goodness of your heart, of course the plan was to get up there. My opinion is also based on the behavior of some of the 'flagshippers' at the hotel before the second boston show.
i think you are referring to another poster, I did not use the word 'entitlement'. While we are on that subject though, it's clear there are many fans out there who do have a sense of entitlement, and feel the need to be at the front of every single GA line. The band really needs to intervene and set up a true lottery for the next tour; that's the only fair way. This camping out for days crap has to stop.
firstly, despite what you may think about the flags, it wasn't a ploy to get us on stage.
to be very long winded about it, what the flags were about was showing the band the effect they have on fans like us - we all met at various stages because of a shared love of U2 and
we think its kinda cool that something like that can bring people from all over the world together in one place like that.
i count the flagshippers as very good friends (and one very lovely boyfriend!) and that would never have been the case if i weren't a u2 fan, i would probably never know these people.
so really we were just trying to show the diversity in this little group of friends that the band had created and hoping to represent that to them.
and yes, that might be a long stretch to get a message like that across with just flags, but they weren't any old flags, they were OUR flags and the idea was U2 look down and see a South African next to an Englishman next to an Argentinian next to and Irishman having the time of their lives and hopefully get some scope of what they've created, because its something I am/we are very very grateful for.
so there you have it, and yes we were probably hoping for some sort of response, something that indicated that they understood it or saw it at least - we all went mental near the beginning of the song when we could see Bono scanning down the line and mouthed "wow" - but that was the best we would have dared hope for.
To honestly think that we, or anyone else, had any inclination that Bono would go so far as to pull 17 people on stage at once is ridiculous and we would never ever ever have expected it or planned it or plotted it or any of that other rubbish.
that said if you wish to remain cynical about it and think it was all some part of our master plan, then why don't you start having a go at all the "bono, dance with me" "bono its my birthday" girls who hold up signs. in fact, why don't you accuse Mary - who got pulled up on stage that same night - of plotting considering she had a sign about dancing too? (i'm not saying you should of course, mary was lovely and its a cruel jibe to make)
maybe its because your whole argument is flawed and you really just couldn't be bothered to look further than the soft target to take your woes out on
and i know it wasn't you who mentioned entitlement - i addressed a lot of people in that post, bfloxng was one of them - but the need to be near the front doesn't even come close to equalling an entitlement to be so.
i have a "need" to be at the front of all gigs i go to, not just u2 (i hate being near the back, in seats etc, i get bored!) but i would never believe i was entitled to be.
its up to me to put the effort in - if i rock up 1 hour before i gig i can't expect to be in front row, but if i want to TRY then i need to put in the hours and the camping and the effort to be in with a shot - not entitlement, just hope, luck and damn hard work.
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but i wasn't saying YOU were #9...sorry for the mix up.
