Drop the Acoustic Set

drleather2001 · 03-18-2005, 07:52 AM

It's tired. I mean, why play "lite" versions of songs? The whole idea of momentary intimacy with the crowd that a spectacle such as Zoo TV required is rendered obsolete by the new stage setups like Elevation's.

I mean, really...who the hell is DYING to hear an acoustic version of "Kite"?

popmart86 · 03-18-2005, 09:10 AM

namkcuR · 03-18-2005, 10:43 AM

The acoustic set is a gorgeous thing if they get the song selection right. On Elevation, the acoustic sets weren't that great because hearing Desire and In A Little While back to back isn't a good acoustic set. But with the right song selection, like RTSS and others, it can take a show from being great to being unforgettable. They just need to stop making non-acoustic songs like Desire and AIWIY into acoustic songs. The only non-acoustic song that's ever translated flawlessly to acoustic is SATS. SATS-RTSS

Numb1075 · 03-18-2005, 10:46 AM

I like a an accoustic song or two. i think more than 2 is too much though.

And DO NOT DO DESIRE Accoustic !! I saw it on ZooTV opening an encore w/ Bono as the Mirrorball Man - full electric - it was off the hook

broken toy · 03-18-2005, 11:26 AM

Sorry, I like it.

And I thought the "acoustic" Desire worked extremely well as a change of pace. It really brought out a sultry, simmering side of the song. I wouldn't want to hear that arrangement again, but I don't believe they have to do any song with a certain arrangement.

Look at how cool the re-arrangement of Running was in '92/'93.

I think the "acoustic" set is a good way to give them a breather, to change the pace and tone of the set, and create a very different and intimate focus on a few songs that get lost in the noise and glamour of a full-band-electric presentation.

And having missed Kite on Elevation (my show was before 4/20/01), I'd rather see/hear it acoustically than not at all.

RademR · 03-18-2005, 11:37 AM

drleather2001, i agree to a certain extent. I for one love the acoustic set, but I thought some shows on the last tour they dragged out too long. They should do 2 songs, 3 MAX, on the tip of the egg

For the acoustic set:
-Stay (awesome the last tour)
-SATS (like popmart)
-Stuck in a Moment
-Angel of Harlem (ZOO TV)

add a couple more, and then rotate them around, play like 2 a night.

zoopop · 03-18-2005, 11:49 AM

Welcome to interence.com. I think they should remove the acoustic set too. It really does add anything special to the show. I did enjoy Edge doing Sunday Bloody Sunday.

Axver · 03-18-2005, 12:14 PM

They have to remove the acoustic set if it's like Elevation. The ZooTV acoustic set was brilliant and Edge's solo Popmart SBS was touching and moving. The Elevation acoustic set, though, dragged and was a bit of a bore.

nathan1977 · 03-18-2005, 12:22 PM

For the record, RTSS in ZooTV wasn't acoustic. It came after Bad and Bullet, and was part of the Greatest Hits section of the show.

I agree that the acoustic dynamic of the show worked better with Zoo TV (where the point was to contrast that stripped-down, in and amongst the audience set with the mega media overload of the first eight songs). But it's always nice to see the chemistry between the band when they just kind of busk together.

And for my money, the Desire/Hawkmoon/RTSS medley during Elevation is one of THE highlights of my "Elevation Live" playlist.

broken toy · 03-18-2005, 01:21 PM

Axver, how many Elevation shows did you attend?

Axver · 03-18-2005, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by broken toy
Axver, how many Elevation shows did you attend?

Zero. I guess it would have been good if one was there. But SATS on the Slane DVD is plain boring and totally kills the song. They just should not be watered down like that.

Macfistowannabe · 03-18-2005, 03:06 PM

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Originally posted by drleather2001
It's tired. I mean, why play "lite" versions of songs? The whole idea of momentary intimacy with the crowd that a spectacle such as Zoo TV required is rendered obsolete by the new stage setups like Elevation's.

I completely disagree. I think Elevation Tour had the most intimate setting ever for U2. Perfectly suitable for an acoustic song or two. The acoustic versions of "Please"
, "The Ground Beneath Her Feet" and "Stay" were great on it. Not to mention, the audience participation they had towards the end of the Elevation Tour. I like the "lite" versions, they give songs another perspective and they allow the band to be as creative as they want with their work.

I also like how they play more variety on the acoustic sets now than they did with Popmart. Kudos to the boys. I enjoy what they do.

Macfistowannabe · 03-18-2005, 03:08 PM

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Originally posted by zoopop
Welcome to interence.com. I think they should remove the acoustic set too. It really does add anything special to the show.I did enjoy Edge doing Sunday Bloody Sunday. [/B]

Glad to see we're on the same side here...

namkcuR · 03-18-2005, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nathan1977
For the record, RTSS in ZooTV wasn't acoustic. It came after Bad and Bullet, and was part of the Greatest Hits section of the show.

I agree that the acoustic dynamic of the show worked better with Zoo TV (where the point was to contrast that stripped-down, in and amongst the audience set with the mega media overload of the first eight songs). But it's always nice to see the chemistry between the band when they just kind of busk together.

And for my money, the Desire/Hawkmoon/RTSS medley during Elevation is one of THE highlights of my "Elevation Live" playlist.

Hawkmoon? HAWKMOON? They played Hawkmoon? On what date, prey tell?

bigloader · 03-18-2005, 03:33 PM

I may sound like a retard, but what the hell is SATS?

bono_man2002 · 03-18-2005, 03:36 PM

Staring At The Sun.

Axver · 03-18-2005, 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by namkcuR

Hawkmoon? HAWKMOON? They played Hawkmoon? On what date, prey tell?

They didn't play Hawkmoon 269 per se. Bono sung a few lines from it before Desire on 12 July 2001 in Cologne. He added some of RTSS onto the end too.

edgewanabe · 03-18-2005, 04:31 PM

mmm im not a big fan of acoustic songs,and def not Desire,ive heard enough of that also pride,sunday,would like to hear more older stuff as well,ie in gods country,gloria,110clock tick tock,lemon,i know some of them are old but a blast from the past would be great.

nicholsfornixon · 03-18-2005, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigloader
I may sound like a retard, but what the hell is SATS?

I was wondering the exact same thing. I wish everybody would stop using so many acronyms and abbreviations for everything.

Axver · 03-18-2005, 05:32 PM

I don't see what's so difficult about the acronyms ...

03-18-2005, 07:52 AM	#1
drleather2001 The Fly Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 32 Local Time: 06:47 AM	Drop the Acoustic Set It's tired. I mean, why play "lite" versions of songs? The whole idea of momentary intimacy with the crowd that a spectacle such as Zoo TV required is rendered obsolete by the new stage setups like Elevation's. I mean, really...who the hell is DYING to hear an acoustic version of "Kite"? __________________

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Axver Vocal parasite Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: 1853 Posts: 152,977 Local Time: 04:47 PM	They have to remove the acoustic set if it's like Elevation. The ZooTV acoustic set was brilliant and Edge's solo Popmart SBS was touching and moving. The Elevation acoustic set, though, dragged and was a bit of a bore. __________________ "Mediocrity is never so dangerous as when it is dressed up as sincerity." - Søren Kierkegaard Ian McCulloch the U2 fan: "Who buys U2 records anyway? It's just music for plumbers and bricklayers. Bono, what a slob. You'd think with all that climbing about he does, he'd look real fit and that. But he's real fat, y'know. Reminds me of a soddin' mountain goat." "And as for Bono, he needs a colostomy bag for his mouth." U2gigs: The most comprehensive U2 setlist database! Gig pictures \| Blog

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Axver Vocal parasite Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: 1853 Posts: 152,977 Local Time: 04:47 PM	I don't see what's so difficult about the acronyms ... __________________ __________________ "Mediocrity is never so dangerous as when it is dressed up as sincerity." - Søren Kierkegaard Ian McCulloch the U2 fan: "Who buys U2 records anyway? It's just music for plumbers and bricklayers. Bono, what a slob. You'd think with all that climbing about he does, he'd look real fit and that. But he's real fat, y'know. Reminds me of a soddin' mountain goat." "And as for Bono, he needs a colostomy bag for his mouth." U2gigs: The most comprehensive U2 setlist database! Gig pictures \| Blog

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03-18-2005, 10:43 AM	#3
namkcuR ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Kettering, Ohio Posts: 10,770 Local Time: 02:47 AM	The acoustic set is a gorgeous thing if they get the song selection right. On Elevation, the acoustic sets weren't that great because hearing Desire and In A Little While back to back isn't a good acoustic set. But with the right song selection, like RTSS and others, it can take a show from being great to being unforgettable. They just need to stop making non-acoustic songs like Desire and AIWIY into acoustic songs. The only non-acoustic song that's ever translated flawlessly to acoustic is SATS. SATS-RTSS

03-18-2005, 10:46 AM	#4
Numb1075 ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Tarrytown, NY Posts: 11,382 Local Time: 01:47 AM	I like a an accoustic song or two. i think more than 2 is too much though. And DO NOT DO DESIRE Accoustic !! I saw it on ZooTV opening an encore w/ Bono as the Mirrorball Man - full electric - it was off the hook

03-18-2005, 11:26 AM	#5
broken toy The Fly Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Eugene, OR, USA Posts: 145 Local Time: 06:47 AM	Sorry, I like it. And I thought the "acoustic" Desire worked extremely well as a change of pace. It really brought out a sultry, simmering side of the song. I wouldn't want to hear that arrangement again, but I don't believe they have to do any song with a certain arrangement. Look at how cool the re-arrangement of Running was in '92/'93. I think the "acoustic" set is a good way to give them a breather, to change the pace and tone of the set, and create a very different and intimate focus on a few songs that get lost in the noise and glamour of a full-band-electric presentation. And having missed Kite on Elevation (my show was before 4/20/01), I'd rather see/hear it acoustically than not at all.

03-18-2005, 11:37 AM	#6
RademR Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Washington D.C. Posts: 5,281 Local Time: 02:47 AM	drleather2001, i agree to a certain extent. I for one love the acoustic set, but I thought some shows on the last tour they dragged out too long. They should do 2 songs, 3 MAX, on the tip of the egg For the acoustic set: -Stay (awesome the last tour) -SATS (like popmart) -Stuck in a Moment -Angel of Harlem (ZOO TV) add a couple more, and then rotate them around, play like 2 a night.

03-18-2005, 11:49 AM	#7
zoopop Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: San Antonio TX Posts: 3,525 Local Time: 01:47 AM	Welcome to interence.com. I think they should remove the acoustic set too. It really does add anything special to the show. I did enjoy Edge doing Sunday Bloody Sunday.

03-18-2005, 12:22 PM	#9
nathan1977 Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Strong Badia Posts: 3,446 Local Time: 06:47 AM	For the record, RTSS in ZooTV wasn't acoustic. It came after Bad and Bullet, and was part of the Greatest Hits section of the show. I agree that the acoustic dynamic of the show worked better with Zoo TV (where the point was to contrast that stripped-down, in and amongst the audience set with the mega media overload of the first eight songs). But it's always nice to see the chemistry between the band when they just kind of busk together. And for my money, the Desire/Hawkmoon/RTSS medley during Elevation is one of THE highlights of my "Elevation Live" playlist.

03-18-2005, 01:21 PM	#10
broken toy The Fly Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Eugene, OR, USA Posts: 145 Local Time: 06:47 AM	Axver, how many Elevation shows did you attend?

03-18-2005, 03:33 PM	#15
bigloader The Fly Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 240 Local Time: 06:47 AM	I may sound like a retard, but what the hell is SATS?

03-18-2005, 03:36 PM	#16
bono_man2002 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: In the wrong band Posts: 28,506 Local Time: 05:47 PM	Staring At The Sun.

03-18-2005, 04:31 PM	#18
edgewanabe Babyface Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: scotland, Posts: 4 Local Time: 06:47 AM	mmm im not a big fan of acoustic songs,and def not Desire,ive heard enough of that also pride,sunday,would like to hear more older stuff as well,ie in gods country,gloria,110clock tick tock,lemon,i know some of them are old but a blast from the past would be great.