Week 6

[Irishteen]

Top Selling Albums in 2009
1. U2 No Line On The Horizon 2.408.000
2. Lady Gaga The Fame 1.360.000
3. Bruce Springsteen Working On A Dream 1.344.000
4. Beyoncé I Am... Sasha Fierce 1.304.000
5. Kings Of Leon Only By The Night 1.279.000
6. Soundtrack Twilight 1.271.000
7. Taylor Swift Fearless 1.215.000
8. Pink Funhouse 995.000
9. Nickelback Dark Horse 963.000
10. Britney Spears Circus 951.000


Best selling albums released in 2009
1. U2 No Line On The Horizon 2.408.000
2. Bruce Springsteen Working On A Dream 1.344.000
3. Lily Allen It's Not Me, It's You 762.500
4. Kelly Clarkson All I Ever Wanted 755.000
5. The Fray The Fray 623.000
6. The Prodigy Invaders Must Die 533.000
7. Soundtrack Hannah Montana: The Movie 506.000
8. Franz Ferdinand Tonight: Franz Ferdinand 501.000
9. Les Enfoirés Les Enfoirés Font Leur Cinéma 2009 465.000
10. Rascal Flatts Unstoppable 357.000


Best Selling Albums Since 2006
1 Amy Winehouse Back To Black 11098500
2 Justin Timberlake FutureSex / LoveSounds 8851000
3 Soundtrack High School Musical 8111000
4 Nelly Furtado Loose 7783000
5 Coldplay Viva La Vida Or Death And All His Friends 7420000

16 AC/DC Black Ice 5690000

25 U2 18 Singles 4766000

36 Metallica Death Magnetic 3996000

52 Madonna Hard Candy 3379000
53 Kings Of Leon Only By The Night 3356000

70 Nickelback Dark Horse 2893000

84 Bob Dylan Modern Times 2567000
85 Colbie Caillat Coco 2560000
86 Panic! At The Disco A Fever You Can t Sweat Out 2507000
87 James Morrison Undiscovered 2481000
88 50 Cent Curtis 2417000
89 Robbie Williams Rudebox 2409000
90 U2 No Line On The Horizon 2408000
91 Foo Fighters Echoes, Silence, Patience & Grace 2399000
92 Tim McGraw Greatest Hits Vol.2: Reflected 2357000
93 Michael Jackson Thriller (25th Anniversary Reissue) 2352500
94 Rascal Flatts Still Feels Good 2322500
95 Jonas Brothers A Little Bit Longer 2315000

 

[Native_Son]

in the next 10 weeks, NLOTH should go top 50 on the 2006 list.
i still cant get over AC/DC sales though

 

[Irishteen]

in the next 10 weeks, NLOTH should go top 50 on the 2006 list.
i still cant get over AC/DC sales though

Hopefully, they jumped 6 places in the last week so hopefully it keeps moving up

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

I agree (almost) completely. But on the above fact: I remember some German shows far from selling out ...

Here is how POPMART Europe did:


POPMART TOUR 2ND LEG: EUROPE 32 SHOWS

30, 31. Rotterdam July 18-19, 1997 Feyenoord Stadium 2 shows combined GROSS: $3,214,484 ATTENDANCE: 91,832

32. Werchter July 25, 1997 Werchter Festival Site GROSS: $1,482,134 ATTENDANCE: 37,498

33. Cologne July 27, 1997 Butzweiler Hof GROSS: $1,059,067 ATTENDANCE: 27,662

34. Leipzig July 29, 1997 Festweise GROSS: $702,396 ATTENDANCE: 18,463

35. Mannheim July 31, 1997 Maimarkt GROSS: $716,281 ATTENDANCE: 18,828

36. Gouhenburg August 2, 1997 Ullevi Stadion GROSS: $1,920,178 ATTENDANCE: 46,658

37. Copenhagen August 4, 1997 Parken Stadium GROSS: $2,079,137 ATTENDANCE: 42,734

38. Oslo August 6, 1997 Vallehovin GROSS: $1,698,841 ATTENDANCE: 40,000

39. Helsinki August 9, 1997 Olympic Stadium GROSS: $2,198,978 ATTENDANCE: 50,943

40. Warsaw August 12, 1997 Tor Slwzewekky GROSS: $1,042,066 ATTENDANCE: 52,070

41. Prague August 14, 1997 Strahov Stadium GROSS: $1,254,201 ATTENDANCE: 61,010

42. Neustadt, Austria, August 16, 1997 Airfield Weiner GROSS: $2,017,344 ATTENDANCE: 62,592

43. Nurnberg August 18, 1997 Zeppelinfield GROSS: $1,153,149 ATTENDANCE: 29,916

44. Hannover August 20, 1997 Expo Gelande GROSS: $1,520,437 ATTENDANCE: 40,183

45, 46. London August 22-23, 1997 Wembley Stadium two shows combined GROSS: $6,753,356 ATTENDANCE: 144,308

47. Belfast August 26, 1997 Botanical Gardens
GROSS: $1,669,372 ATTENDANCE: 39,362

48. Leeds August 28, 1997 Roundhay Park GROSS: $2,458,615 ATTENDANCE: 53,917

49, 50. Dublin August 30-31, 1997 Landsdowne Park two shows combined GROSS: $3,441,268 ATTENDANCE: 85,046

51. Edinburgh September 2, 1997 Murrayfield Stadium GROSS: $2,318,566 ATTENDANCE: 50,439

52. Paris September 6, 1997 Parc des Princes GROSS: $2,501,742 ATTENDANCE: 53,519

53. Madrid September 9, 1997 Vicente Calderon Stadium GROSS: $1,776,728 ATTENDANCE: 46,385

54. Lisbon September 11, 1997 Alvalade Stadium GROSS: $2,045,906 ATTENDANCE: 62,114

55. Barcelona September 13, 1997 Olympic Stadium GROSS: $2,281,165 ATTENDANCE: 60,096

56. Montpelier September 15, 1997 Espace Grammont GROSS: $1,033,643 ATTENDANCE: 24,188

57. Rome September 18, 1997 Hippodrome GROSS: $1,990,073 ATTENDANCE: 56,392

58. Reggio Emilia September 20, 1997 Festival Site GROSS: $5,294,117 ATTENDANCE: 150,000

59. Sarajevo September 23, 1997 Kosevo Stadium GROSS: $540,000 ATTENDANCE: 45,000

60. Thessaloniki September 26, 1997 Harbour Yard GROSS: $725,000 ATTENDANCE: 50,000

61. Tel Aviv September 30, 1997 Hayarkon Park GROSS: $1,809,388 ATTENDANCE: 31,566

2ND LEG: EUROPE POPMART TOTALS
GROSS: $58,697,632 ATTENDANCE: 1,572,721
AVERAGE GROSS: $1,834,301 AVERAGE ATTENDANCE: 49,148


All the shows in Germany(5), the show in Sweden, Belgium, a show in France, a show in Scotland, England, and Israel did not sellout.

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

Top Selling Albums in 2009
1. U2 No Line On The Horizon 2.408.000
2. Lady Gaga The Fame 1.360.000
3. Bruce Springsteen Working On A Dream 1.344.000
4. Beyoncé I Am... Sasha Fierce 1.304.000
5. Kings Of Leon Only By The Night 1.279.000
6. Soundtrack Twilight 1.271.000
7. Taylor Swift Fearless 1.215.000
8. Pink Funhouse 995.000
9. Nickelback Dark Horse 963.000
10. Britney Spears Circus 951.000


Best selling albums released in 2009
1. U2 No Line On The Horizon 2.408.000
2. Bruce Springsteen Working On A Dream 1.344.000
3. Lily Allen It's Not Me, It's You 762.500
4. Kelly Clarkson All I Ever Wanted 755.000
5. The Fray The Fray 623.000
6. The Prodigy Invaders Must Die 533.000
7. Soundtrack Hannah Montana: The Movie 506.000
8. Franz Ferdinand Tonight: Franz Ferdinand 501.000
9. Les Enfoirés Les Enfoirés Font Leur Cinéma 2009 465.000
10. Rascal Flatts Unstoppable 357.000


Best Selling Albums Since 2006
1 Amy Winehouse Back To Black 11098500
2 Justin Timberlake FutureSex / LoveSounds 8851000
3 Soundtrack High School Musical 8111000
4 Nelly Furtado Loose 7783000
5 Coldplay Viva La Vida Or Death And All His Friends 7420000

16 AC/DC Black Ice 5690000

25 U2 18 Singles 4766000

36 Metallica Death Magnetic 3996000

52 Madonna Hard Candy 3379000
53 Kings Of Leon Only By The Night 3356000

70 Nickelback Dark Horse 2893000

84 Bob Dylan Modern Times 2567000
85 Colbie Caillat Coco 2560000
86 Panic! At The Disco A Fever You Can t Sweat Out 2507000
87 James Morrison Undiscovered 2481000
88 50 Cent Curtis 2417000
89 Robbie Williams Rudebox 2409000
90 U2 No Line On The Horizon 2408000
91 Foo Fighters Echoes, Silence, Patience & Grace 2399000
92 Tim McGraw Greatest Hits Vol.2: Reflected 2357000
93 Michael Jackson Thriller (25th Anniversary Reissue) 2352500
94 Rascal Flatts Still Feels Good 2322500
95 Jonas Brothers A Little Bit Longer 2315000

On thing to remember though is that every year the market declines, so it gets harder and harder for albums to sell what they did the year before let alone 3 years ago. This makes it inaccurate to compare the sales success of individual albums from 2006 vs. those in 2009 because of the dramatically different market conditions.

The 2009 results look great for U2. Two albums expected to sell well both get released on Friday May 15. Green Day's new one under Warner Brothers Group VS. Enimem's new one under Universal Music Group. By then NLOTH should be getting close to 3 million in sales worldwide. No one knows how well or fast the Green Day or Eminem releases will sell, but its likely that U2 will still have the biggest selling album worldwide for 2009, at the half way point for the year at the end of June.

 

[Irishteen]

I think you've also got to remember that the albums released four years ago have had four years to sell

The biggest selling album in 2006 sold 5.69, the biggest selling album in 2007 sold 5, and I think Coldplay were around 6 million for 2008. So if U2 hit 5 million by year end they're up there with the biggest bands.

 

[allbecauseofu2]

Will this album hit the one million mark in the US before it fizzles out? i hope to keep the streak of every studio album doing at least platinum going. If magnificent is only a moderate hit, this should happen? maybe? For me, as long as they achieve that goal i think anything they accomplish after that is gravy. I also note that the last album they did that only went 1x platinum was pop. But we didn't have legal/illegal downloading in 1997. I wonder what NLOTH would have sold so far in the us if there wasn't downloading.

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

Will this album hit the one million mark in the US before it fizzles out? i hope to keep the streak of every studio album doing at least platinum going. If magnificent is only a moderate hit, this should happen? maybe? For me, as long as they achieve that goal i think anything they accomplish after that is gravy. I also note that the last album they did that only went 1x platinum was pop. But we didn't have legal/illegal downloading in 1997. I wonder what NLOTH would have sold so far in the us if there wasn't downloading.

If everyone who wanted the album actually had to buy it, it probably would have sold 2 to 3 million in the USA by now. In 2009, the majority of people don't actually buy music, they are able to obtain it for free.

 

[Moggio]

I love how Maoilbheannacht continues to spin every single sentence I state that proves him wrong.

He stated:

"Nickleback is struggling to sellout amphitheaters at low ticket prices and is unable to."

And all I did was post recent Billboard Boxscores PROVING he is wrong. NONE of Nickelback's ticket prices are "low" in comparison to most tours out there. In fact, some of U2's upcoming shows will have average prices that will be basically in line with Nickelback's. And NONE of Nickelback's arena show capacities are "low" in comparison to most arena tours, since they've utilized the standard 180, 240 or 270 degree end stage configuration setups.

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Also, I love how the U2 sheep on this forum solely blame NLOTH's sales failure on downloading, when in reality, it's also to due to the fact that many U2 fans just don't like NLOTH.

 

[digitize]

I love how Maoilbheannacht continues to spin every single sentence I state that proves him wrong.

He stated:

"Nickleback is struggling to sellout amphitheaters at low ticket prices and is unable to."

And all I did was post recent Billboard Boxscores PROVING he is wrong. NONE of Nickelback's ticket prices are "low" in comparison to most tours out there. In fact, some of U2's upcoming shows will have average prices that will be basically in line with Nickelback's. And NONE of Nickelback's arena show capacities are "low" in comparison to most arena tours, since they've utilized the standard 180, 240 or 270 degree end stage configuration setups.

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Also, I love how the U2 sheep on this forum solely blame NLOTH's sales failure on downloading, when in reality, it's also to due to the fact that many U2 fans just don't like NLOTH.

At least you can read his post.

 

[Chief43]

Actually a lot of U2 fans like NLOTH so you are wrong there. It has received a much better reception on fan forums than its predecessor. It's limited success THUS FAR can probably be contributed to the fact the band are a generation older than the market and that selling albums in such an age bracket proves more and more difficult.

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

And all I did was post recent Billboard Boxscores PROVING he is wrong. NONE of Nickelback's ticket prices are "low" in comparison to most tours out there. In fact, some of U2's upcoming shows will have average prices that will be basically in line with Nickelback's. And NONE of Nickelback's arena show capacities are "low" in comparison to most arena tours, since they've utilized the standard 180, 240 or 270 degree end stage configuration setups.



Also, I love how the U2 sheep on this forum solely blame NLOTH's sales failure on downloading, when in reality, it's also to due to the fact that many U2 fans just don't like NLOTH.

Moggio always has some very interesting comments.

But Moggio,

Nickelback
Molson Amphitheatre, Toronto, ON
Sun, Aug 9, 2009 06:00 PM
tickets available in multiples of 10 at the following prices:
87.50 Canadian
60.50 Canadian
27.50 Canadian


Nickelback
Woodlands Pavilion, Woodlands, TX
Sat, Sep 12, 2009 06:00 PM
tickets available in multiples of 10 at all ticket prices:
$89.50
$35.00


Nickelback
Journal Pavilion, Albuquerque, NM
Wed, Sep 9, 2009 07:00 PM
tickets available in multiples of 10 at the following prices:
$83.50
$35.00

Nickelback
JOBING.COM ARENA, Glendale, AZ
Tue, Sep 8, 2009 06:00 PM
tickets available in multiples of 10 at all ticket prices:
$74.25
$54.25

Nickelback
MGM Grand Hotel, Las Vegas, NV
Sun, Sep 6, 2009 07:00 PM
tickets available in multiples of 10 at all ticket prices:
$89.50
$69.50
$51.50

Nickelback
Cricket Wireless Amphitheatre, Chula Vista, CA
Sat, Sep 5, 2009 06:00 PM
tickets available in multiples of 8 for the following ticket prices:
$62.50
$31.00

Nickelback with Hinder, Papa Roach and Saving Abel
Gorge Amphitheatre, George, WA
Sat, Aug 29, 2009 06:00 PM
tickets available in multiples of 8. Only one ticket price:
$50.00

Nickelback with Hinder, Papa Roach and Saving Abel
The Amphitheater at Clark County, Ridgefield, WA
Fri, Aug 28, 2009 06:00 PM
tickets available in multiples of 10 at all ticket prices:
$81.50
$61.50
$28.00

Nickelback with Hinder, Papa Roach, and Saving Abel
Fiddler's Green Amphitheatre, Englewood, CO
Tue, Aug 25, 2009 05:30 PM
tickets available in multiples of 8 at the following ticket prices:
$29.00

Nickelback
Riverbend Music Center, Cincinnati, OH
Wed, Aug 19, 2009 06:00 PM
tickets available in multiples of 10 at all ticket prices:
$86.00
$66.00
$31.50

Nickelback
Blossom Music Center
Cuyahoga Falls, OH
Fri, Aug 14, 2009 06:00 PM
tickets available in multiples of 10 at the following ticket prices:
$63.50
$29.00

Nickelback with Hinder, Papa Roach and Saving Abel
DTE Energy Music Theatre
Clarkston, MI
Wed, Aug 12, 2009 06:00 PM
SOLDOUT!

Nickelback with Seether and Saving Abel
Lakewood Amphitheatre, Atlanta, GA
Thu, Apr 23, 2009 07:00 PM
tickets available in multiples of 10 at the following ticket prices:
$75.00
$29.50

Nickelback with Seether and Saving Abel
Jacksonville Veterans Memorial Arena, Jacksonville, FL
Wed, Apr 22, 2009 07:00 PM
$65.00
$55.00
$35.00



Thats 1 soldout show out of 14 listed on ticketmaster. The single soldout show has Hinder, Papa Roach and Saving Abel opening for them at the same ticket prices which average about $55 dollars for the venue.

And all I did was post recent Billboard Boxscores PROVING he is wrong.

I responded because what you posted did not disprove what I had said. Under your own definition of "sellout", those shows were not "soldout". In addition, some of the shows you listed were soldout at capacities that were well below those in a 270 degree configeration.

NONE of Nickelback's ticket prices are "low" in comparison to most tours out there

Average ticket price in 2008 was $69.50. Average ticket price for Nickelback for several of these shows is around $55 and NONE were at $69.50 or above. Depends on your definition of "low" of course. But its a fact that all of Nickelback's shows have average ticket prices, that were BELOW the industry average.

In fact, some of U2's upcoming shows will have average prices that will be basically in line with Nickelback's.

LOL, All of U2's shows will have an average ticket price that is above the average for the industry as a whole. In addition, U2 are playing some of the largest attended stadium shows in history with this tour. The idea that you would compare U2 playing to a 65,000 stadium to a reduce capacity show of 13,000 for Nickelback is just absurd.

Also, I love how the U2 sheep on this forum solely blame NLOTH's sales failure on downloading, when in reality, it's also to due to the fact that many U2 fans just don't like NLOTH.

How can you call the top selling album worldwide of the year and the 2nd best selling album in the United States of the year so far, a sales failure?



Top Selling Albums in 2009 WORLDWIDE
1. U2 No Line On The Horizon 2.408.000
2. Lady Gaga The Fame 1.360.000
3. Bruce Springsteen Working On A Dream 1.344.000
4. Beyoncé I Am... Sasha Fierce 1.304.000
5. Kings Of Leon Only By The Night 1.279.000
6. Soundtrack Twilight 1.271.000
7. Taylor Swift Fearless 1.215.000
8. Pink Funhouse 995.000
9. Nickelback Dark Horse 963.000
10. Britney Spears Circus 951.000

Top Selling Albums in the USA for 2009 as of week 14

WEEK 14

Rank - Sales - TITLE - Artist
01 - 865,265 - FEARLESS - Taylor Swift
02 - 780,478 - NO LINE ON THE HORIZON - U2
03 - 604,802 - DARK HORSE - Nickelback
04 - 592,774 - TWILIGHT - Soundtrack
05 - 590,666 - I AM…SASHA FIERCE - Beyonce
06 - 501,910 - WORKING ON A DREAM - Bruce Springsteen
07 - 452,778 - THE FAME - Lady GaGa
08 - 451,488 - THE FRAY - The Fray
09 - 447,081 - 808S AND HEARTBREAK - Kanye West
10 - 438,313 - INTUITION - Jamie Foxx
11 - 431,129 - ALL I EVER WANTED - Kelly Clarkson
12 - 376,352 - A DIFFERENT ME - Keyshia Cole
13 - 374,469 - CIRCUS - Britney Spears
14 - 335,959 - PAPER TRAIL - T.I.
15 - 311,104 - NOW 29 - Various
16 - 295,922 - FUNHOUSE - Pink
17 - 281,185 - WE SING WE DANCE WE STEAL THINGS - Jason Mraz
18 - 273,502 - FREEDOM - Akon
19 - 271,491 - LOVE VS MONEY - The-Dream
20 - 269,725 - VIVA LA VIDA OR DEATH AND ALL HIS FRIENDS - Coldplay
21 - 256,006 - DAVID COOK - David Cook
22 - 254,410 - ONLY BY THE NIGHT - Kings Of Leon
23 - 249,514 - SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE - Soundtrack
24 - 246,819 - 19 - Adele
25 - 233,505 - NOW 30 - Various
26 - 232,747 - YEAR OF THE GENTLEMAN - Ne-Yo
27 - 230,985 - MAMMA MIA - Soundtrack
28 - 227,979 - THA CARTER III - Lil' Wayne
29 - 225,281 - HANNAH MONTANA THE MOVIE - Soundtrack
30 - 220,274 - ROCK N ROLL JESUS - Kid Rock
31 - 211,580 - GOOD GIRL GONE BAD - Rihanna
32 - 210,588 - ONE OF THE BOYS - Katy Perry
33 - 208,884 - TAYLOR SWIFT - Taylor Swift
34 - 205,249 - RAISING SAND - Robert Plant & Alison Krauss
35 - 201,208 - THE FOUNDATION - Zac Brown Band
36 - 193,448 - TESTIMONY:VOL 2-LOVE AND POLITICS - India.Arie
37 - 192,420 - WHEN THE WORLD COMES DOWN - All-American Rejects
38 - 192,234 - LEARN TO LIVE - Darius Rucker
39 - 188,904 - 2009 GRAMMY NOMINEES - Various
40 - 188,442 - LOVE ON THE INSIDE - Sugarland

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

Here are the new soundscan numbers of the best selling albums in the United States to date for 2009. This is week 15 totals for the year:

WEEK 15

Rank - Sales - TITLE - Artist
01 - 947,355 - FEARLESS - Taylor Swift
02 - 815,242 - NO LINE ON THE HORIZON - U2
03 - 660,816 - TWILIGHT - Soundtrack
04 - 641,640 - DARK HORSE - Nickelback
05 - 615,078 - I AM…SASHA FIERCE - Beyonce
06 - 510,425 - WORKING ON A DREAM - Bruce Springsteen
07 - 508,826 - THE FAME - Lady GaGa
08 - 476,062 - THE FRAY - The Fray
09 - 470,986 - ALL I EVER WANTED - Kelly Clarkson
10 - 460,554 - INTUITION - Jamie Foxx
11 - 459,148 - 808S AND HEARTBREAK - Kanye West
12 - 421,365 - HANNAH MONTANA: THE MOVIE - Soundtrack
13 - 390,537 - CIRCUS - Britney Spears
14 - 386,562 - A DIFFERENT ME - Keyshia Cole
15 - 355,449 - PAPER TRAIL - T.I.
16 - 351,188 - UNSTOPPABLE - Rascal Flatts
17 - 332,050 - NOW 30 - Various
18 - 323,762 - NOW 29 - Various
19 - 313,059 - FUNHOUSE - Pink
20 - 299,833 - WE SING WE DANCE WE STEAL THINGS - Jason Mraz
21 - 295,237 - LOVE VS MONEY - The-Dream
22 - 284,460 - FREEDOM - Akon
23 - 280,136 - VIVA LA VIDA OR DEATH AND ALL HIS FRIENDS - Coldplay
24 - 277,371 - DAVID COOK - David Cook
25 - 273,531 - ONLY BY THE NIGHT - Kings Of Leon
26 - 263,018 - SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE - Soundtrack
27 - 259,121 - 19 - Adele
28 - 243,802 - DEFYING GRAVITY - Keith Urban
29 - 242,502 - YEAR OF THE GENTLEMAN - Ne-Yo
30 - 241,321 - MAMMA MIA - Soundtrack
31 - 238,872 - THA CARTER III - Lil' Wayne
32 - 234,950 - LOTUS FLOW3R - Prince
33 - 234,571 - TAYLOR SWIFT - Taylor Swift
34 - 231,802 - ROCK N ROLL JESUS - Kid Rock
35 - 223,992 - THE FOUNDATION - Zac Brown Band
36 - 221,015 - ONE OF THE BOYS - Katy Perry
37 - 218,918 - GOOD GIRL GONE BAD - Rihanna
38 - 213,729 - LOVE ON THE INSIDE - Sugarland
39 - 212,276 - RAISING SAND - Robert Plant & Alison Krauss
40 - 209,661 - LEARN TO LIVE - Darius Rucker
41 - 203,871 - WHEN THE WORLD COMES DOWN - All-American Rejects
42 - 200,450 - TESTIMONY:VOL 2-LOVE AND POLITICS - India.Arie
43 - 192,149 - 2009 GRAMMY NOMINEES - Various
44 - 184,132 - CARNIVAL RIDE - Carrie Underwood
45 - 171,480 - THEATER OF THE MIND - Ludacris
46 - 167,312 - HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL 3: SENIOR YEAR - Soundtrack
47 - 165,994 - DEATH MAGNETIC - Metallica
48 - 165,842 - IT'S NOT ME IT'S YOU - Lily Allen
49 - 165,608 - FEEL THAT FREE - Dierks Bentley
50 - 164,536 - DAY AND AGE - Killers
51 - 164,362 - SWAN SONGS - Hollywood Undead
52 - 164,240 - IN A PERFECT WORLD - Keri Hilson
53 - 163,333 - THE POINT OF IT ALL - Anthony Hamilton
54 - 160,959 - SOUL - Seal
55 - 158,768 - DA REALIST - Plies
56 - 158,282 - THAT LONESOME SONG - Jamey Johnson
57 - 156,236 - KIDZ BOP 15 - Kidz Bop Kids
58 - 153,856 - SCARS AND SOUVENIRS - Theory Of A Deadman
59 - 152,097 - QUIET NIGHTS - Diana Krall
60 - 150,887 - JENNIFER HUDSON - Jennifer Hudson
61 - 148,200 - GREATEST HITS VOLUME 1 - Rascal Flatts
62 - 145,451 - UNCLE CHARLIE - Charlie Wilson
63 - 143,687 - EVOLVER - John Legend
64 - 143,245 - BLACK ICE - AC/DC
65 - 140,976 - FOLIE A DEUX - Fall Out Boy
66 - 138,795 - SPIRIT - Leona Lewis
67 - 136,551 - INCREDIBAD - Lonely Island
68 - 136,050 - GOLD-GREATEST HITS - Abba
69 - 134,921 - THE LAST KISS - Jadakiss
70 - 133,500 - THE REBIRTH - Bobby V
71 - 133,322 - LADY ANTEBELLUM - Lady Antebellum
72 - 131,700 - NOTORIOUS - Soundtrack
73 - 131,308 - WRATH - Lamb Of God
74 - 128,028 - FEARLESS - Jazmine Sullivan
75 - 124,266 - THE PROMISE - Il Divo
76 - 123,711 - ONMYRADIO - Musiq Soulchild
77 - 120,753 - THE SOUND OF MADNESS - Shinedown
78 - 120,442 - ISOULJABOYTELLEM - Soulja Boy Tell'em
79 - 120,384 - 3D CONCERT EXPERIENCE - Jonas Brothers
80 - 118,900 - GREATEST HITS - Guns N'Roses
81 - 118,380 - THE RECESSION - Young Jeezy
82 - 116,281 - DAVID ARCHULETA - David Archuleta
83 - 115,050 - GREATEST HITS - Journey
84 - 114,950 - THR33 RINGZ - T-Pain
85 - 114,552 - ORACULAR SPECTACULAR - MGMT
86 - 114,252 - ROCKFERRY - Duffy
87 - 113,520 - TAKE IT TO THE LIMIT - Hinder
88 - 109,692 - ALL HOPE IS GONE - Slipknot
89 - 109,018 - WIDE OPEN - Jason Aldean
90 - 108,700 - TEN - Pearl Jam
91 - 108,374 - SAVING ABEL - Saving Abel
92 - 104,484 - GOOD TIME - Alan Jackson
93 - 104,100 - LEGEND - Bob Marley & the Wailers
94 - 102,904 - UGK FOR LIFE - UGK
95 - 102,189 - MIDDLE CYCLONE - Neko Case
96 - 101,991 - INDESTRUCTIBLE - Disturbed
97 - 101,540 - DOLL DOMINATION - Pussycat Dolls
98 - 100,985 - LUCKY OLD SUN - Kenny Chesney
99 - 98,950 - CHRONICLE:THE 20 GREATEST HITS - Creedence Clearwater Revival
100 - 97,453 - THE BALLADS - Mariah Carey

 

[fedeu2]

I love how Maoilbheannacht continues to spin every single sentence I state that proves him wrong.

He stated:

"Nickleback is struggling to sellout amphitheaters at low ticket prices and is unable to."

And all I did was post recent Billboard Boxscores PROVING he is wrong. NONE of Nickelback's ticket prices are "low" in comparison to most tours out there. In fact, some of U2's upcoming shows will have average prices that will be basically in line with Nickelback's. And NONE of Nickelback's arena show capacities are "low" in comparison to most arena tours, since they've utilized the standard 180, 240 or 270 degree end stage configuration setups.

------------------------------------------------

Also, I love how the U2 sheep on this forum solely blame NLOTH's sales failure on downloading, when in reality, it's also to due to the fact that many U2 fans just don't like NLOTH.

Oh no, not another troll....

For the record, this album has received a lot more praise from both the die hard fans (which I guess you´re not) and the press around the world as compared the last three ones: HTDAAB, ATYCLB and Pop. All of them great albums in my book. It´s just that NLOTH is better.

As for figures discussion, Maoilbheannacht has already put the debate to rest.

 

[Moggio]

Yep...every single sentence.

1. You see, Nickelback have already hit several of the same markets in the past several weeks that they're going to be hitting this coming summer. Naturally, when an artist does return engagements, they usually don't sell out, since demand has already usually been met. And just because these particular shows are not sold out now, doesn't necessarily mean that won't be by showtime.

2. I did PROVE that Nickelback don't have problems selling out their shows since I provided actual PROOF. And again, 180, 240 or 270 degree end stage configuration setups are STANDARD setups in arenas. Their first leg boxscores show that ALL tix that were available were sold, apart from their Chicago show.

3. The average concert ticket price for the past few years has been between $50-$55, not $69.50. And in order for U2 to fill stadiums in weaker markets, like, Norman, OK, Dallas, Houston, Charlottesville, etc., their average prices for these markets are going to have to be lower than larger markets, like, NY/NJ, Toronto, Chicago, Boston, LA, etc.

4. No matter how you look at it, NLOTH is a sales failure. Period. Nickelback and AC/DC's latest albums were released in late 2008 and have outsold NLOTH. But of course, to make it look like U2 has the bigger seller, he blames NLOTH's low sales strictly on the market decline and posts the top selling albums released in 2009, despite most mega-selling albums aren't released until the fourth quarter of the year.

 

[Moggio]

Oh no, not another troll....

Oh, not at all. Just providing some truth, balance and realism.

As for figures discussion, Maoilbheannacht has already put the debate to rest.

LOL!

 

[Florence76]

Oh no, not another troll....

Is this place full of trolls or is just a couple of them with different nicknames?

Maybe we should recall this thread "How to dismantle an atomic troll"

I don't care about other bands, this is a place where we only want to discuss U2 sales and I don't care about pop cover bands (Coldplay) and pure shit (Nickelback-almost wnknown here in Europe!).
Bye!

Last thing for the trolls:
NLOTH is a great album: buy a ticket for the concert and go to see them live!

 

[Chief43]

Um U2 is the biggest seller thus far in 2009 without a tour to have it backed up in any market thus far. It has sold 2.4 million on the name alone - so it is far too early to be calling it a failure. In my opinion it will surpass Nickelback's latest set by the end of the year. Period.

 

[Native_Son]

i think a good indication of NLOTH success will be Green Day's and Eminem's sales. If they reach 10M then NLOTH not so good, if they match NLOTH with 5M then we can say NLOTH has been very successful

 

[Dragonfave]

Blah blah blah

Does all the Nickelbackers in the world talk/type like that?

 

[SleepyDeadMan]

No matter how you look at it, NLOTH is a sales failure. Period. Nickelback and AC/DC's latest albums were released in late 2008 and have outsold NLOTH. But of course, to make it look like U2 has the bigger seller, he blames NLOTH's low sales strictly on the market decline and posts the top selling albums released in 2009, despite most mega-selling albums aren't released until the fourth quarter of the year.

so just because two albums released late last year (that had the whole holiday rush thing, which is a great sales booster) have more sales than NLOTH, that makes NLOTH a sales failure?

So let me get this straight... in order for a u2 album to be anything but a failure, it has to outsell every album ever released within the past 12 months? Why?

If this album even ends up in the top 10 selling albums of 2009, thats a SUCCESS. Maybe it's not as high as some people would expect, but when you consider all the music released within a year, for an album to sell in the top 10 for that given year cannot be considered a failure.

I hate nickelback, but just because i hate them doesnt mean im gonna try to prove their recent release a failure. Its actually quite successful. Its pure shit, but its successful shit.

Its fine if you hate NLOTH, its fine if you say its not blowing the world away based on its chart performance, but its doing pretty freaking well, and calling it a failure is just nonsensical.

Or is it just me, peoples? Am I wrong? Is 2 million+ not good anymore Number 1 for the year is not successful anymore?? Someone fill me in on what success is, then?

 

[Mirrorball06]

Number 1 in more than 30 countries is a great succes!! And I like NLOTH!!

 

[Irishteen]

4. No matter how you look at it, NLOTH is a sales failure. Period. Nickelback and AC/DC's latest albums were released in late 2008 and have outsold NLOTH. But of course, to make it look like U2 has the bigger seller, he blames NLOTH's low sales strictly on the market decline and posts the top selling albums released in 2009, despite most mega-selling albums aren't released until the fourth quarter of the year.

You can't judge whether the album is a sales failure or not yet, it's only been out a month and a half. Come back at the end of the year and you might be able to make an argument, right now you have none

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

1. You see, Nickelback have already hit several of the same markets in the past several weeks that they're going to be hitting this coming summer. Naturally, when an artist does return engagements, they usually don't sell out, since demand has already usually been met. And just because these particular shows are not sold out now, doesn't necessarily mean that won't be by showtime.

Of the 14 shows I listed, only TWO of them are return dates.

2. I did PROVE that Nickelback don't have problems selling out their shows since I provided actual PROOF. And again, 180, 240 or 270 degree end stage configuration setups are STANDARD setups in arenas. Their first leg boxscores show that ALL tix that were available were sold, apart from their Chicago show.

All you showed were a shows that soldout at reduced capacities. In addition, just because they soldout at reduced capacities does not mean that they did not struggle to get to that point. The Philadelphia show was several thousand tickets below capacity for a 270 configeration show which basically shows they peaked out at that attendance level.

3. The average concert ticket price for the past few years has been between $50-$55, not $69.50.

Here is the average ticket price level for each year since 2000 as provided by pollstar:

2000 $43.75
2001 $43.86
2002 $46.56
2003 $50.35
2004 $53.55
2005 $57.00
2006 $61.58
2007 $62.11
2008 $67.33


I was a little off on the average ticket price for 2008. Nickelback has average about $55 dollars on this tour in 2009, which is below the average ticket price unadjusted for inflation all the way back to 2005. Adjusting for inflation, it is below the average ticket price for each year since 2000. But, it is an improvement over the average ticket price in 2006 of $40 dollars, which is $43.75 in 2009 dollars.

And in order for U2 to fill stadiums in weaker markets, like, Norman, OK, Dallas, Houston, Charlottesville, etc., their average prices for these markets are going to have to be lower than larger markets, like, NY/NJ, Toronto, Chicago, Boston, LA, etc.

So? The average ticket price will still be above the average ticket price for 2009. Plus, were talking stadiums at expanded capacities above what would be normal for a stadium concert in the past.





Will see who's predictions were correct for those "weaker markets" this fall.



Dopper attendance predictions for the U2 360 in North America:

Phoenix 35,000
Las Vegas 33,000
Tampa 28,000
Raleigh 25,000
Atlanta 36,000
Dallas 34,000
Norman 22,000
Houston 32,000
Charlottesville 29,000
D.C. 55,000



Moggio predictions for U2 360 in North America:

City/Venue/Capacity/Tickets Sold/Gross/Average Ticket Price

September

12, 13 Chicago - Soldier Field (2 shows...120,000/Sold Out/$11.5 million /$96)
16, 17 Toronto - Rogers Centre (2 shows...140,000/Sold Out/$13 million/$93)
20, 21 Foxboro, MA (Boston) - Gillette Stadium (2 shows...140,000/Sold Out/$11.5 million /$82)
24, 25, 27 E. Rutherford, NJ (NYC metro area) - Giants Stadium (3 shows...240,000/Sold Out/$19.5 million /$81)
29 Washington, DC - FedEx Field (92,000/Sold Out/$6.5 million/$71)

October

1 Charlottesville, VA - Scott Stadium (62,000/31,000/$2 million/$65)
3 Raleigh - Carter Finley Stadium (57,000/31,000/$2 million/$65)
6 Atlanta - Georgia Dome (67,000/Sold Out/$4.5 million/$67)
9 Tampa - Raymond James Stadium (65,000/54,000/$3.5 million/$65)
12 Dallas - Cowboys Stadium (80,000/28,000/$1.8 million/$65)
14 Houston - Reliant Stadium (70,000/31,000/$2 million/$65)
19 Norman, OK (Oklahoma City area) - University Memorial Stadium (82,000/31,000/$2 million/$65)
20 Glendale, AZ (Phoenix) - University Of Phoenix Stadium (63,000/Sold Out/$4.5 million/$71.50)
23 Las Vegas - Sam Boyd Stadium (37,000/Sold Out/$4.5 million/$122)
25 Pasadena, CA (LA metro area) - Rose Bowl (95,000/Sold Out/11.5 million/$121)
28 Vancouver - BC Place Stadium (60,000/Sold Out/$5.5 million/$92)

This leg should gross over $105 million.



Maoilbheannacht predictions for U2 360 tour in North America:

City/Venue/Capacity/Tickets Sold/Gross/Average Ticket Price

September

12, 13 Chicago - Soldier Field (2 shows...120,000/Sold Out/$12 million /$100)
16, 17 Toronto - Rogers Centre (2 shows...140,000/Sold Out/$14 million/$100)
20, 21 Foxboro, MA (Boston) - Gillette Stadium (2 shows...140,000/Sold Out/$14 million /$100)
24, 25 E. Rutherford, NJ (NYC metro area) - Giants Stadium (2 shows...160,000/Sold Out/$16.1 million /$100.68)
29 Washington, DC - FedEx Field (92,000/Sold Out/$9.2 million/$99.53)

October

1 Charlottesville, VA - Scott Stadium (62,000/55,000/$5.4 million/$97.70)
3 Raleigh - Carter Finley Stadium (57,000/45,000/$3.6 million/$80)
6 Atlanta - Georgia Dome (67,000/Sold Out/$6.3 million/$95)
9 Tampa - Raymond James Stadium (65,000/55,000/$5.2 million/$95)
12 Dallas - Cowboys Stadium (80,000/55,000/$5.4 million/$97.70)
14 Houston - Reliant Stadium (70,000/45,000/$4.3 million/$95)
19 Norman, OK (Oklahoma City area) - University Memorial Stadium (82,000/50,000/$4 million/$80)
20 Glendale, AZ (Phoenix) - University Of Phoenix Stadium (63,000/Sold Out/$6 million/$95)
23 Las Vegas - Sam Boyd Stadium (37,000/Sold Out/$4.5 million/$122)
25 Pasadena, CA (LA metro area) - Rose Bowl (95,000/Sold Out/9.5 million/$100)
28 Vancouver - BC Place Stadium (60,000/Sold Out/$6 million/$100)


Total gross $125.5 million from 20 shows.

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

4. No matter how you look at it,NLOTH is a sales failure. Period. Nickelback and AC/DC's latest albums were released in late 2008 and have outsold NLOTH. But of course, to make it look like U2 has the bigger seller, he blames NLOTH's low sales strictly on the market decline and posts the top selling albums released in 2009, despite most mega-selling albums aren't released until the fourth quarter of the year.

Besides WISHING that every new U2 album was a sales failure, what factual information do you have that supports that idea?

Nickelback and AC/DC's albums were released 4 and 5 months before NLOTH. They were released during the holiday season. NLOTH has only been out six weeks. Be patient. It will outsell Nickelback's latest release this year and AC/DC's by the spring of 2010 despite declining market conditions.

Albums in 2009 are selling at about 50% the rate they were in 2004.

The only way to accurately gauge album success is to compare to the other albums it is competing against in the same initial year or two.

NLOTH so far is doing fantastic against the sales competition in 2009, and that INCLUDES albums that were released in 2008! Both list are not of albums just released in 2009, but album sales for ALL albums regardless of when they were released.

What is the minimum NLOTH would of had to have sold in its first 6 weeks in 2009 for you NOT to consider it a "sales failure"?

Where do you think NLOTH will finish at the end of the year on the worldwide album sales chart and the US album sales chart for 2009?

 

[Native_Son]

world 4. US 6

 

[Irishteen]

How much had HTDAAB sold by week 6/7? In an album market down by 50%, NLOTH would of been selling 3.6 million by now in 2004, and if it was released in November probably closer to 5 million worldwide. And those estimates are probably low, seeing as I added 50% NLOTH sales as opposed to doubling them seeing as the market is now half what it was.

 

[CosmoKramer]

Yep...every single sentence.

1. You see, Nickelback have already hit several of the same markets in the past several weeks that they're going to be hitting this coming summer. Naturally, when an artist does return engagements, they usually don't sell out, since demand has already usually been met. And just because these particular shows are not sold out now, doesn't necessarily mean that won't be by showtime.

4. No matter how you look at it, NLOTH is a sales failure. Period. Nickelback and AC/DC's latest albums were released in late 2008 and have outsold NLOTH. But of course, to make it look like U2 has the bigger seller, he blames NLOTH's low sales strictly on the market decline and posts the top selling albums released in 2009, despite most mega-selling albums aren't released until the fourth quarter of the year.

With regard to your 1st "point", now your trying to make excuses/reasons for your failure to prove a point? Next your going to write that Nickelback didnt sell out because the venues don't serve Pepsi, so people dont like to go.

With regard to your 4th "point", the album was released in March not November/december like AC/DC who picked up the HUGE holiday increase. Additionally, since it was released in March, its only 1 1/2 months old (no tour or 2nd single yet). To say an album is a sales failure when it is still in the top 5 selling world wide albums is foolish. I mean, you do realize you sound like your just here to complain instead of objectively converse about the sales situation.

 

[CosmoKramer]

Besides WISHING that every new U2 album was a sales failure, what factual information do you have that supports that idea?

Nickelback and AC/DC's albums were released 4 and 5 months before NLOTH. They were released during the holiday season. NLOTH has only been out six weeks. Be patient. It will outsell Nickelback's latest release this year and AC/DC's by the spring of 2010 despite declining market conditions.

Albums in 2009 are selling at about 50% the rate they were in 2004.

The only way to accurately gauge album success is to compare to the other albums it is competing against in the same initial year or two.

NLOTH so far is doing fantastic against the sales competition in 2009, and that INCLUDES albums that were released in 2008! Both list are not of albums just released in 2009, but album sales for ALL albums regardless of when they were released.

What is the minimum NLOTH would of had to have sold in its first 6 weeks in 2009 for you NOT to consider it a "sales failure"?

Where do you think NLOTH will finish at the end of the year on the worldwide album sales chart and the US album sales chart for 2009?

Maoilbheannacht- While I do not feel that NLOTH is doing fantastic YET, I think it is selling well and is on pace to do very well. With that said, it will do you no good arguing with this fellow because he clearly knows nothing about what he is talking about. If NLOTH is a sales "failure" then I guess every album released so far this year has been an even bigger failure based on sales. This it the type of person who would make a statement that BOMB sold better than NLOTH in its 1st month because it was a better album. Not realizing the real reason, which is that Bomb was released at a time of year when even the Jonas Brothers could sell 200k a week. Well, you get what Im saying.....you can keep handing him his ass but at the end of the day...he'll just make some BS statement to keep you going.

 

[fedeu2]

How much had HTDAAB sold by week 6/7? In an album market down by 50%, NLOTH would of been selling 3.6 million by now in 2004, and if it was released in November probably closer to 5 million worldwide. And those estimates are probably low, seeing as I added 50% NLOTH sales as opposed to doubling them seeing as the market is now half what it was.

Well said. I don´t have the exact figures for HTDAAB at the end of 2004 but I don´t think it had surpassed 5 million wordlwide by that time. I´m not sure if NLOTH would have sold 5 million by now if it had been released November 2004 but definitely 4 million.