Week 5

[Irishteen]

Magnificent will be the make or break for this album I think, I can't believe it's taken them so long to release it. I mean the reaction to Boots was clear from the start, the label should of realised they needed a second single straight away

 

[GibsonExplorer]

Even a doubter like me knows that U2 will sweep the Grammys next year. They eat that shit up. Brits, not so much.

 

[CosmoKramer]

Even a doubter like me knows that U2 will sweep the Grammys next year. They eat that shit up. Brits, not so much.

Gibson Explorer...I know who you are. Oh yes, it took some time reading your posts in many different threads about U2 but I have finally figured out your true identity and I for one will not follow you to the dark side of hate for U2 :

YouTube - The Emperor

 

[KUEFC09U2]

U2 still in the top 25, maybe the panic about them leaving the top 30 was a little premature?

 

[Irishteen]

U2 still in the top 25, maybe the panic about them leaving the top 30 was a little premature?

24th with five new albums charting ahead, that's not too bad it's only a two position drop in real terms

 

[KUEFC09U2]

24th with five new albums charting ahead, that's not too bad it's only a two position drop in real terms

 

[macawaca]

Now up to 19th on 18,080 sales from 70.38% on HITS

 

[allcub]

U2 still in the top 25, maybe the panic about them leaving the top 30 was a little premature?

Sorry but are we talking US or UK charts?

 

[Irishteen]

Sorry but are we talking US or UK charts?

UK charts, for next week. We should probably start a thread soon for Week 6 but we'll have no final charts for week 6 until Friday

 

[beLIEve]

NLOTH still has a chance at being the biggest selling album of the year, folks. The tour is going to be huge. Rolling Stone, Blender, Q, USA Today...they all raved about the album, giving it 5/5 stars and proclaiming it as U2's best since AB...with a few subtle hints at it possibly being their best EVER. Come on, this kind of critical acclaim more often than not leads to multiple grammy awards. The tour will be in overdrive this Fall leading up to the holiday selling season...if the economy just gets a little better, NLOTH will be on a lot of Christmas lists with the tour keeping U2 in the news. IMO, they are delaying single releases to properly space them out in such a way that NLOTH can benefit from tour plus current single for the rest of 2009.

Then the Grammy awards hit next Feb/Mar, along with another leg on the tour. Similar scenarios for the last two albums, where U2 showed they were very adept at maximizing sales over a 2-year cycle with good timing. If NLOTH wins album of the year, which I think it will at least get nominated for, then historically, it has resulted in a return to the Top 20, or even Top 10, on the U.S. charts. For ATYCLB and HTDAAB, the timing of those awards were also much longer w/respect to the release of the album...NLOTH could benefit even more since this time the awards will come less than 1 year from it's release...and with a record-breaking, innovative tour stopping in most major markets within months no less.

This album is FAR from a dud. It's a smash hit...just read the headlines on Billboard that stated "U2's NLOTH best selling album in the world for 2009 first quarter". Don't buy in to all the negativity. Not when even the Top musicians and bands in the world right now would LOVE to have U2's combined draw of Album Sales and Concert Ticket demand. No one else can do BOTH better than U2, and it's been that way for 25 years now. What makes it all the more amazing in 2009 is that U2 continue at the top of album sales and ticket sales without a huge hit single from NLOTH, at least not yet. When Magnificent is released, it will just be icing on their cake.

No need to be concerned about U2's spot in the world music scene, folks. They are the best in the world, period, and that has been true for a very long time now.

 

[macawaca]

HITS Final now in: U2 at number 11 with 36,110 down 30% on last week. Five new entries above it, so not too bad.

 

[Irishteen]

HITS Final now in: U2 at number 11 with 36,110 down 30% on last week. Five new entries above it, so not too bad.

Higher than expected

 

[Native_Son]

not bad, but isnt it about time these % drops should be reducing

 

[Mirrorball06]

US

12 u2 no line on the horizon 35,989 51,179 -30% 780,478

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

Here is the Billboard 200/Soundscan first 50 positions for the week:

01 URBAN*KEITH DEFYING GRAVITY 171,525 22 779559% 171,547
02 PRINCE LOTUS FLOW3R 168,420 38 443111% 168,458
03 KRALL*DIANA QUIET NIGHTS 104,023 351 29536% 104,374
04 VARIOUS NOW 30 87,494 145,976 -40% 233,505
05 HANNAH MONTANA HANNAH MOVIE SNDTRK 86,501 138,700 -38% 225,281
06 UGK UGK 4 LIFE 76,419 181 42120% 76,600
07 TWILIGHT SOUNDTRACK 73,492 102,012 -28% 1,720,313
08 FLO RIDA R.O.O.T.S. (ROOT OF OVERCOMING 55,285 71 77766% 55,356
09 LADY GAGA FAME 51,139 45,279 13% 602,694
10 SWIFT*TAYLOR FEARLESS 41,557 39,532 5% 2,977,444
11 HILSON*KERI IN A PERFECT WORLD... 37,030 94,078 -61% 131,527
12 U2 NO LINE ON THE HORIZON 35,989 51,179 -30% 780,478
13 BOTTI*CHRIS CHRIS BOTTI LIVE IN BOSTON 35,746 369 9587% 36,116
14 CLARKSON*KELLY ALL I EVER WANTED 33,897 51,608 -34% 431,129
15 ATKINS*RODNEY IT'S AMERICA 33,643 7 480514% 33,699
16 BOW WOW NEW JACK CITY PT II 30,851 93 33073% 30,944
17 NICKELBACK DARK HORSE 29,074 30,156 -4% 1,770,067
18 THE-DREAM LOVE VS. MONEY 28,548 35,967 -21% 271,491
19 DEGRAW*GAVIN FREE 26,194 20 130870% 26,214
20 COOK*DAVID DAVID COOK 24,769 7,300 239% 1,067,673
21 BEYONCE I AM...SASHA FIERCE 22,820 22,798 0% 2,049,519
22 YEAH YEAH YEAHS IT'S BLITZ! 21,763 3,495 523% 42,941
23 FOXX*JAMIE INTUITION 21,359 21,753 -2% 808,181
24 T.I. PAPER TRAIL 21,250 20,067 6% 1,858,062
25 QUEENSRYCHE AMERICAN SOLDIER 20,993 45 46551% 21,038
26 MCCLURKIN*DONNIE LIVE IN DETROIT 20,548 387 5210% 19,073
27 FRAY*THE FRAY 19,306 18,629 4% 451,488
28 KINGS OF LEON ONLY BY THE NIGHT 17,988 18,013 0% 565,430
29 BROWN*ZAC BAND FOUNDATION 17,759 16,361 9% 393,115
30 MRAZ*JASON WE SING WE DANCE WE STEAL THIN 17,133 19,045 -10% 1,081,739
31 ADELE 19 16,932 21,364 -21% 581,034
32 SLIM THUG BOSS OF ALL BOSSES 16,891 32,479 -48% 49,612
33 UNDERWOOD*CARRIE CARNIVAL RIDE 16,231 16,775 -3% 2,735,990
34 PAPA ROACH METAMORPHOSIS 15,984 44,449 -64% 60,582
35 RICH*JOHN SON OF A PREACHER MAN 15,331 30,878 -50% 46,210
36 MCBRIDE*MARTINA SHINE 15,090 41,457 -64% 56,565
37 SWIFT*TAYLOR TAYLOR SWIFT 14,231 12,599 13% 4,049,276
38 VARIOUS ARTISTS SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE (MUSIC FRO 13,900 10,907 27% 265,479
39 RUCKER*DARIUS LEARN TO LIVE 13,775 13,878 -1% 549,375
40 JONES*JIM PRAY IV REIGN 13,704 42,818 -68% 56,686
41 DEATH CAB FOR CUTIE OPEN DOOR 13,590 0 #DIV/0! 13,590
42 SILVERSTEIN SHIPWRECK IN THE SAND 13,465 76 17617% 13,541
43 SPEARS*BRITNEY CIRCUS 13,450 13,736 -2% 1,478,812
44 MASTODON CRACK THE SKYE 13,427 41,395 -68% 55,187
45 P!NK FUNHOUSE 13,272 13,602 -2% 976,809
46 VARIOUS NOW POWER BALLADS 13,068 17,346 -25% 30,417
47 NICKS*STEVIE SOUNDSTAGE SESSIONS 13,052 76 17074% 13,130
48 THEORY OF A DEADMAN SCARS & SOUVENIRS 13,035 11,857 10% 423,710
49 BLUE OCTOBER APPROACHING NORM 12,089 37,160 -67% 49,356
50 SUGARLAND LOVE ON THE INSIDE 11,905 11,221 6% 1,489,481

 

[Native_Son]

do we have UK sales/estimate for this week?

 

[Irishteen]

do we have UK sales/estimate for this week?

This week as in week 5, that was just over 10,000

Nothing on the current week though

 

[Native_Son]

thanks

 

[ajax]

From billboard.biz:

U2 and Lady Gaga continue their reigns on Billboard's pan-European charts. "No Line on the Horizon" (Mercury/Universal) starts a fifth week at the Top 100 Albums summit and "Poker Face" (Interscope/Universal) moves into a seventh week at No. 1 on the European Hot 100 Singles.

"Horizon" has three No. 1 berths across the region, holding steady in Hungary and Greece and moving back 2-1 in Spain. It falls beneath the top ten, 9-17, in the United Kingdom, where "Magnificent" will be released as its second single May 4, and 1-2 in Portugal, but is up 3-2 in the Belgian region of Flanders.

 

[doctorwho]

Billboards charts are once again rather different from HITS. On HITS, Prince seems to have easily obtained the #1 spot, yet on Billboard, he's #2. U2 are also #12, not #11 as they are on HITS. Last week, U2 was #5 on HITS, but #6 on Billboard. So does anyone have SoundScan figures for NLOTH for the last two weeks? Does anyone have SoundScan for Prince this week so we can compare to HITS?

Thanks!

 

[Native_Son]

How come the big difference in Prince sales? whos #1 on billboard?

 

[ajax]

Keith Urban is #1 on Billboard top 200 with 171,525 copies sold, while Prince is # 2 with 168,420 copies. NLOTH sold 35,989 copies this week (#12) and the previous one 51,179 copies (#6).

 

[Don Marino]

Iceland, NLOTH still #1
Run: 1-1-1-1-1

Magnificent is down to #4 from #2.

 

[doctorwho]

Keith Urban is #1 on Billboard top 200 with 171,525 copies sold, while Prince is # 2 with 168,420 copies. NLOTH sold 35,989 copies this week (#12) and the previous one 51,179 copies (#6).

Thanks Ajax! Do you happen to have Kelly Clarkson's numbers as well for the past two weeks? I'm curious as U2 seemed to have surpassed her in sales this week.

What's interesting about the SoundScan data is that HITS had Prince at 185,956 copies sold and Urban at 177,292 copies sold. While both artists saw lower sales with SoundScan data, Urban's numbers were only about 6K off. Prince's numbers were a whopping 17.5K off! It's rare to see HITS and SoundScan disagree that much. For example, per HITS, NLOTH sold 36,110 copies. SoundScan is almost right there with 35,989, a difference of only 121 copies. I wonder why HITS was so dramatically different with the top values this week. Could there have been 17K copies sold in "early street sales"?

Using SoundScan and Billboard numbers, NLOTH's run in the U.S. is:

1-3-2-6-12

547 (early "street" sales) + 483,925 + 132,494 + 76,317 + 51,179 + 35,989

Total: 780,451

 

[ajax]

Doctorwho, Kelly Clarkson sold 33,897 copies this week (#14), while the previous one sold 51,608 (#5).

 

[Popmartijn]

Thanks Ajax! Do you happen to have Kelly Clarkson's numbers as well for the past two weeks? I'm curious as U2 seemed to have surpassed her in sales this week.

Doc, look up a couple of post above yours, there are the Soundscan number for the top 50 positions on Billboard: http://www.u2interference.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6074112&postcount=75

Using SoundScan and Billboard numbers, NLOTH's run in the U.S. is:

1-3-2-6-12

547 (early "street" sales) + 483,925 + 132,494 + 76,317 + 51,179 + 35,989

Total: 780,451

According to Soundscan, the actual total is 780,478. So somewhere your numbers are 27 copies off.

 

[hey you]

nloth n.5 this week on mediatraffic with 136.000 copies sold. so far have sold 2.286.000 on mediatraffic,plus the 7,5% not coverage by them the amount is 2.457.000.

 

[doctorwho]

Doc, look up a couple of post above yours, there are the Soundscan number for the top 50 positions on Billboard: http://www.u2interference.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6074112&postcount=75




According to Soundscan, the actual total is 780,478. So somewhere your numbers are 27 copies off.

Thanks! I didn't see that link. Hopefully we can get one every week.

Not sure where the 27 copies come from. These aren't my SoundScan numbers, just what others reported (as, sadly, my source for SoundScan is no more ). The total number is just ever so higher than the numbers I had (i.e., those 27 copies). Can anyone check to see if I have an incorrect weekly number (plus pre-sales)?

28 KINGS OF LEON ONLY BY THE NIGHT 17,988 18,013 0% 565,430

This is what I'm hoping NLOTH will do. Have weekly sales of 15-20K for an extended period of time. I think with the tour and future singles, it's possible. Just yesterday, I heard a friend ask if I heard the new U2 single, "Magnificent". So word is finally starting to spread. Plus, that friend has the album and she loves "Moment of Surrender". I've had other friends love "Boots" (yes, GOYB!) and other faster paced songs. In other words, people are slowly discovering this album. With the tour, this may help keep NLOTH going at that 15-20K place, like Kings of Leon, for a while (note that while Kings of Leon broke through in the U.S., their songs have not been hits on the Hot 100, but have succeeded on alternate charts - so NLOTH may be able to accomplish the same).

 

[u2search]

>09 LADY GAGA FAME 51,139 45,279 13% 602,694
>10 SWIFT*TAYLOR FEARLESS 41,557 39,532 5% 2,977,444

So both of these are stabilizing on higher numbers than No Line?

 

[KUEFC09U2]

Not really, they have both been out longer, so are new singles are helping those albums,