Can 1st week sales of new Coldplay album (X&Y) match those of HTDAAB?

[bsp77]

Originally posted by Tallarico
740 000 in final....100 000 less than the bomb!

This is still unbelievable.

I had hoped White Stripes would break 200,000, but oh well.

[fedeu2]

If I recall correctly, the bomb sold over 2 million copies in its first week.

Originally posted by Tallarico
it is incredible!
u2 in the first week sold 1 900 000.....can coldplay win the race?

[Tallarico]

on mediatraffic:

U2 - HOW TO DISMANTLE AN ATOMIC BOMB 1.854.000 COPIES (50/2004)

[fedeu2]

Precisely, mediatraffic only covers 95% of worldwide sales so that figures turns into nearly 1,950.000. I guess it doesn´t include first week sales in Japan either (the week before the worldwide release).
So 2 million copies for first week sales seems a good estimate.

Originally posted by Tallarico
on mediatraffic:

U2 - HOW TO DISMANTLE AN ATOMIC BOMB 1.854.000 COPIES (50/2004)

[fedeu2]

The reason? Just one word: HYPE

Originally posted by bsp77


This is still unbelievable.

I had hoped White Stripes would break 200,000, but oh well.

[bsp77]

Originally posted by fedeu2
The reason? Just one word: HYPE

People always conveniently use that word whenever it goes against their own tastes, which must be superior of course. If anything, U2 would have been perceived as having more hype.

[Soldatti]

I can't believe that they sold another 50,000 copies from the first two albums, they almost sold 800,000 albums last week!

[Tallarico]

Originally posted by fedeu2
Precisely, mediatraffic only covers 95% of worldwide sales so that figures turns into nearly 1,950.000. I guess it doesn´t include first week sales in Japan either (the week before the worldwide release).
So 2 million copies for first week sales seems a good estimate.

Japan sales were inclused.But I think that 2 milion copies is quite right!

[ybird3k]

Originally posted by Tallarico


Japan sales were inclused.But I think that 2 milion copies is quite right!

i think japans 1st week sales were included in the week before, when bomb entered mediatrafic at #40.

[Tallarico]

Originally posted by ybird3k


i think japans 1st week sales were included in the week before, when bomb entered mediatrafic at #40.

yes...it is so...sorry....

but bomb entered in wc at #39 with japan sales!

[fedeu2]

Don´t get me wrong, I like Coldplay (and Oasis for that matter). I just think both of them are too overrated though.

You´re right, advertising is everything nowadays. If it hadn´t been for that ipod commercial, first week sales for the bomb wouldn´t have surpassed the half million mark in the US.

Now, it is my understanding X&Y has been one of the most advertised albums ever. It is clear Martin and ca. are doing their best to replace U2 as the biggest band on earth.

I´ve seen this before with Oasis and Radiohead, back in the 1994-2000 period but we all know that, for different reasons, both bands failed at the task.
Will Coldplay succeed? I say no way, but let´s just wait and see.

Originally posted by bsp77


People always conveniently use that word whenever it goes against their own tastes, which must be superior of course. If anything, U2 would have been perceived as having more hype.

[ybird3k]

i know X&Y was hyped up a huge amount in the Uk but i didnt know it was in the US, and didnt expect it to get such big first week sales.
also bomb wouldnt as sold so much in its first week if it hadnt had been for the brooklyn bridge show.
coldplay didnt do anything like that and speed of sound was not as big a hit as vertigo, yet they still sold almost as many copies as U2 did in their 1st week.

Originally posted by fedeu2

Now, it is my understanding X&Y has been one of the most advertised albums ever. It is clear Martin and ca. are doing their best to replace U2 as the biggest band on earth.

I´ve seen this before with Oasis and Radiohead, back in the 1994-2000 period but we all know that, for different reasons, both bands failed at the task.
Will Coldplay succeed? I say no way, but let´s just wait and see.

chris martin is obsessed with tryin to be bigger than U2, all he ever talks about in interviews.

what were the reasons for oasis and radiohead failing to become bigger than U2? U2 werent as big in the 94-00 period as they are now either.

[bsp77]

Originally posted by fedeu2

I´ve seen this before with Oasis and Radiohead, back in the 1994-2000 period but we all know that, for different reasons, both bands failed at the task.
Will Coldplay succeed? I say no way, but let´s just wait and see.

I agree. Part of me would like Coldplay to take over for U2, just because I can't think of anyone else up to it. However, Coldplay needs to just be cooler. Until then, I would rather U2 hold the crown.

Sorry if I was excessively sarcastic before, I do it to amuse myself.

[bsp77]

Originally posted by ybird3k

what were the reasons for oasis and radiohead failing to become bigger than U2? U2 werent as big in the 94-00 period as they are now either.

Oasis went too far with the overblown Be Here Now and pissed people off (something that could happen to Coldplay's X&Y).

Radiohead purposely walked away from the chance by releasing Kid A.

[fedeu2]

Exactly bsp77!

I couldn´t have "said" it better.

As you put it, the case of Coldplay is more similar to Oasis than Radiohead. That is, if they fail to overthrone U2 that would be because of their incapacity only. On the contrary, only Yorke and colleagues know why on earth Radiohead sort of auto-excluded from the competition. Back in 1997, it was the best scenario to K.O. U2! The boys were at one of their lowest points in popularity (at least in the US), Pop bombed in the US and was almost deemed a commercial failure worldwide (in spite of selling almost 6 million copies in just a year) and the Popmart tour, although I loved it, didn´t live up to the expectations. At the same time, Radiohead released Ok computer, one of the best albums in the 90´s (though I like The bends better!), won grammy of the year and were extremely popular, including the US. On top of that, they´re an incredibly great live act, something that cannot be said about Oasis or Coldplay.
Then, two and a half years later, they released Kid A ....
I liked the album a lot, granted, not as much as ATYCLB, but noone can deny it´s, er, different. Not exactly the kind of record to place them at the summit of rock and roll. They continued along the same path with Amnesiac and to a lesser degree, Hail to the Thief.

Eitherway, all of this is very fun. I don´t think anyone can beat U2 out of the top until they retire but you´re right, if there´s any band capable of that, its called Coldplay.

Originally posted by bsp77


Oasis went too far with the overblown Be Here Now and pissed people off (something that could happen to Coldplay's X&Y).

Radiohead purposely walked away from the chance by releasing Kid A.

[ybird3k]

Oasis at their best with Definately Maybe and Morning Glory, were MUCH better than coldplay will ever be.

Be Here Now is also very good IMO.
it had massive first week sales in the Uk but was still seen as being a bit of a failure.
same 'could' happen to X&Y, but i doubt it

[fedeu2]

Worldwide sales for Be here now are about 8 million, right?
Not too shabby.
I disagree in that it´s a great record though. It has a couple of great tunes but too similar to the first two albums in my eyes.
After that, everything went downhill for Oasis, proving once again that staying at the top is the hardest thing.

Originally posted by ybird3k
Oasis at their best with Definately Maybe and Morning Glory, were MUCH better than coldplay will ever be.

Be Here Now is also very good IMO.
it had massive first week sales in the Uk but was still seen as being a bit of a failure.
same 'could' happen to X&Y, but i doubt it

[mosquito]

Some bands and people still thinks good music (radiohead) is more important that money, money, money... (U2)

[ybird3k]

Originally posted by mosquito
Some bands and people still thinks good music (radiohead) is more important that money, money, money... (U2)

some people would say that money, money, money is a result of making good music.

[ybird3k]

Originally posted by fedeu2
Worldwide sales for Be here now are about 8 million, right?
Not too shabby.
I disagree in that it´s a great record though. It has a couple of great tunes but too similar to the first two albums in my eyes.
After that, everything went downhill for Oasis, proving once again that staying at the top is the hardest thing.

ye your right, Be Here Now is too similar to Oasis' first two albums IMO also.
same can be said about Coldplays X&Y.

and staying at the top is definately the hardest thing to do.