Can 1st week sales of new Coldplay album (X&Y) match those of HTDAAB? - Page 5

mosquito · 06-01-2005, 10:14 AM

The biggest current band in the world today in terms of album sales and tours success is U2 without any doubt, but that doesn`t mean that their music at this moment were the best in the world. I think today the reference in the world of the good music is coldplay. It`s just an opinion.

roy keane · 06-01-2005, 11:59 AM

Some good music overall overrated band.In10 years they'll be where Verve is now.Same goes for Keane.When you listen to their songs everything is ok,you have a good time but something's missing.I must say that I am relatively new U2 fan and that I prefer harder music.I recently bought and listened all of their albums including live recordings.From that point I listen to U2 every single day.And though most of their albums are perfect what really made me become addicted to them are live recordings.Sunday bloody sunday revolution speech on rattle and hum,Red rocks,Zoo Tv.Watch them and listen to them and tell me when Martin is gonna have that energy and power on his shows.Also tell me when they're gonna make proper rock song like sunday,bullet,el.co,gloria...Martin will never be Bono,Coldplay will never be U2.

edge3 · 06-01-2005, 12:06 PM

Well, I believe Speed Of Sound sold 36,500 copies last week in the UK to debut at # 2. I think it deserved to be # 1 : I mean they were unlucky to be beaten by a Frog & Sometimes was # 1 with sales of 30,500.

Also, I'm a bit surprised as I thought it would at least sell about the same as Vertigo (50K) although IMO Vertigo is a much better song. So Round 1 to U2.

ybird3k · 06-01-2005, 12:20 PM

also vertigo spent 10 weeks at #1 in the download chart!! (would have been 14 weeks if it wernt for band aid 20)
imagine how many weeks it would have been #1 in the singles chart for if downloads had been counted back then.
would have had sales of 80k-90k a week.

edge3 · 06-01-2005, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ybird3k
also vertigo spent 10 weeks at #1 in the download chart!! (would have been 14 weeks if it wernt for band aid 20)
imagine how many weeks it would have been #1 in the singles chart for if downloads had been counted back then.
would have had sales of 80k-90k a week.

Yeah, that's also true...but I do think that X&Y will sell over 300K in UK next week therefore easily beating the 200K that Bomb sold...we shall see...

roy keane · 06-01-2005, 01:20 PM

In UK XY will be bigger seller than bomb.In States and rest of the world-no way.

jon_lemire · 06-04-2005, 02:18 PM

Back to the predictions, my guess is that Coldplay has a bigger first week in the US than many expect. It won't top HTDAAB, but I could see it putting up something like 500,000 - 600,000 copies. There is a LOT of buzz around Coldplay right now.

However, I also wouldn't be surprised if the album -- like HTDAAB -- doesn't come close to duplicating its first week numbers during the rest of its stay on the charts. Blockbuster albums are becoming more like movies -- a huge first week thanks to the promotional campaign, and then often a pretty steep drop, barring, of course, a deep album that either has several hit singles or really speaks to its time (like Green Day's latest or ATYCLB).

ybird3k · 06-07-2005, 11:02 AM

accoriding to the BBC X&Y has sold 150000 in its first day of release in the UK, & is expected to sell up to half a million copies this week.
more than double HTDAAB

biff · 06-07-2005, 02:23 PM

I have never seen a more heavily promoted album. I take three daily newspapers (four on weekends) and each of them has had large ads every day for the past couple of weeks. One paper today had two ads in different sections. Talk about overkill. The record company was clearly really desperate for this to be a hit. I guess they got their wish.
Of these four papers, one (The New York Times) completely trashed the album and the band. They HATED it. One other gave it a lukewarm review. The other two have yet to weigh in.

beLIEve · 06-07-2005, 02:39 PM

Just posted at Hits Daily Double regardin U.S. sales of X&Y:

COLDPLAY IS HUGER: Latest sales reports have the highly-anticipated album exceeding all guesses, now exploding past a projection of 600k and heading toward an almost impossible to achieve 700k. With huge sales at Starbucks and iTunes adding to the tally, many expect the 700k number to be within reach. Later on, we will update and add sales info for Black Eyed Peas and White Stripes. Stay tuned. (6/7p)

STING2 · 06-07-2005, 04:48 PM

So far, most shows in the United States are not soldout for Coldplay. Boston, 2 shows in New York and one California show are soldout. Large cities like Philadelphia and Washington DC still have lawn tickets available for only $30. The tweeter Center in Camden/Philly has a capacity of about 25,000, while the Bristow VA/Washington DC venue has a capacity of 20,000.

It will be easier to judge Coldplay's overall popularity once the full weeks sales figures are actually in. If the hyped numbers are correct for the album sales, then it appears that Coldplay's concert ticket selling ability is well behind its album selling ability in North America.

mosquito · 06-08-2005, 10:16 AM

X&Y first week in japan 36,000 copies sold.

edge3 · 06-08-2005, 10:32 AM

34,347 to be precise - # 6 debut on Oricon International chart. Quite surprising : I thought it would do much more in Japan.

Oasis, DBTT, did 95K.

HTDAAB did 84K. So, Round 2 to U2

mosquito · 06-08-2005, 10:42 AM

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Originally posted by edge3
. So, Round 2 to U2

In terms of sales will be a round 2, 3,4......,77 for U2 , but in terms of music a victory by K.O. for coldplay.

edge3 · 06-08-2005, 11:00 AM

Well, so far the critics have actually given better reviews to HTDAAB. Go check out Metacritic.com : X&Y has a score of 67 from 14 reviews. HTDAAB had a score of 83 after 14 reviews, 78 after 25 reviews (81+ = universal acclaim).

ChangeTheTemperature · 06-08-2005, 11:06 AM

Hits predicts 1st week sales of 650-700K in the US based on 1 day of sales.

biff · 06-08-2005, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mosquito

In terms of sales will be a round 2, 3,4......,77 for U2 , but in terms of music a victory by K.O. for coldplay.

To echo Edge3, the reviews for X and Y have been decidedly mixed. Three of the four daily papers I receive have given it poor reviews. (The fourth does its reviews on Thursday.) Those same three papers gave HTDAAB good to rave reviews. An unscientific sample,sure, but these are all major circulation newspapers.

fedeu2 · 06-09-2005, 04:31 AM

Do you honestly think that Coldplay make better music than U2?
That´s nonsense.
Now I didn´t listen to the new album but the new single sucks big time in my eyes so I don´t expect the album to be anywhere as good as the bomb which, by the way, I deem the third masterpiece of the irish fab four.

As other has also pointed out, media reviews for the bomb where much more better than X&Y.
Overall, HTDAAB was deemed the best album in 2004 by US media (averaging rates from all major specialized sources).

So, I beg to differ, in terms of music quality, it´ll always be 10000 to 1 rounds for U2, in terms of sales, the ratio is going to be more balanced.

Again, Rocky can only beat the bad russian in the movie ...

Quote:

Originally posted by mosquito

In terms of sales will be a round 2, 3,4......,77 for U2 , but in terms of music a victory by K.O. for coldplay.

mosquito · 06-09-2005, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fedeu2
Do you honestly think that Coldplay make better music than U2?

I have not said that. I honestly think that there is no comparison between htdaa and x&y. Music today belongs to coldplay.The history puts U2 on the top three bands of the history probably so still a lot of work for coldplay to reach the same status.

fedeu2 · 06-09-2005, 05:28 AM

Ok. I will listen to X&Y and then let you know my opinion!

Quote:

Originally posted by mosquito

I have not said that. I honestly think that there is no comparison between htdaa and x&y. Music today belongs to coldplay.The history puts U2 on the top three bands of the history probably so still a lot of work for coldplay to reach the same status.

06-01-2005, 10:14 AM	#81
mosquito The Fly Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 115 Local Time: 12:51 AM	The biggest current band in the world today in terms of album sales and tours success is U2 without any doubt, but that doesn`t mean that their music at this moment were the best in the world. I think today the reference in the world of the good music is coldplay. It`s just an opinion. __________________

06-01-2005, 11:59 AM	#82
roy keane Acrobat Join Date: May 2005 Location: belgrade Posts: 369 Local Time: 01:51 AM	Some good music overall overrated band.In10 years they'll be where Verve is now.Same goes for Keane.When you listen to their songs everything is ok,you have a good time but something's missing.I must say that I am relatively new U2 fan and that I prefer harder music.I recently bought and listened all of their albums including live recordings.From that point I listen to U2 every single day.And though most of their albums are perfect what really made me become addicted to them are live recordings.Sunday bloody sunday revolution speech on rattle and hum,Red rocks,Zoo Tv.Watch them and listen to them and tell me when Martin is gonna have that energy and power on his shows.Also tell me when they're gonna make proper rock song like sunday,bullet,el.co,gloria...Martin will never be Bono,Coldplay will never be U2. __________________

06-07-2005, 02:39 PM	#90
beLIEve Refugee Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 1,081 Local Time: 07:51 PM	Hits Daily Double comments on X&Y tonight Just posted at Hits Daily Double regardin U.S. sales of X&Y: COLDPLAY IS HUGER: Latest sales reports have the highly-anticipated album exceeding all guesses, now exploding past a projection of 600k and heading toward an almost impossible to achieve 700k. With huge sales at Starbucks and iTunes adding to the tally, many expect the 700k number to be within reach. Later on, we will update and add sales info for Black Eyed Peas and White Stripes. Stay tuned. (6/7p)

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06-01-2005, 12:06 PM	#83
edge3 Refugee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 1,385 Local Time: 12:51 AM	Well, I believe Speed Of Sound sold 36,500 copies last week in the UK to debut at # 2. I think it deserved to be # 1 : I mean they were unlucky to be beaten by a Frog & Sometimes was # 1 with sales of 30,500. Also, I'm a bit surprised as I thought it would at least sell about the same as Vertigo (50K) although IMO Vertigo is a much better song. So Round 1 to U2.

06-01-2005, 12:20 PM	#84
ybird3k War Child Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Wales - UK Posts: 705 Local Time: 12:51 AM	also vertigo spent 10 weeks at #1 in the download chart!! (would have been 14 weeks if it wernt for band aid 20) imagine how many weeks it would have been #1 in the singles chart for if downloads had been counted back then. would have had sales of 80k-90k a week.

06-01-2005, 01:20 PM	#86
roy keane Acrobat Join Date: May 2005 Location: belgrade Posts: 369 Local Time: 01:51 AM	In UK XY will be bigger seller than bomb.In States and rest of the world-no way.

06-04-2005, 02:18 PM	#87
jon_lemire Acrobat Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 312 Local Time: 12:51 AM	Back to the predictions, my guess is that Coldplay has a bigger first week in the US than many expect. It won't top HTDAAB, but I could see it putting up something like 500,000 - 600,000 copies. There is a LOT of buzz around Coldplay right now. However, I also wouldn't be surprised if the album -- like HTDAAB -- doesn't come close to duplicating its first week numbers during the rest of its stay on the charts. Blockbuster albums are becoming more like movies -- a huge first week thanks to the promotional campaign, and then often a pretty steep drop, barring, of course, a deep album that either has several hit singles or really speaks to its time (like Green Day's latest or ATYCLB).

06-07-2005, 11:02 AM	#88
ybird3k War Child Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Wales - UK Posts: 705 Local Time: 12:51 AM	accoriding to the BBC X&Y has sold 150000 in its first day of release in the UK, & is expected to sell up to half a million copies this week. more than double HTDAAB

06-07-2005, 02:23 PM	#89
biff Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I may have lost my way Posts: 4,014 Local Time: 07:51 PM	I have never seen a more heavily promoted album. I take three daily newspapers (four on weekends) and each of them has had large ads every day for the past couple of weeks. One paper today had two ads in different sections. Talk about overkill. The record company was clearly really desperate for this to be a hit. I guess they got their wish. Of these four papers, one (The New York Times) completely trashed the album and the band. They HATED it. One other gave it a lukewarm review. The other two have yet to weigh in.

06-07-2005, 04:48 PM	#91
STING2 Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 8,876 Local Time: 12:51 AM	So far, most shows in the United States are not soldout for Coldplay. Boston, 2 shows in New York and one California show are soldout. Large cities like Philadelphia and Washington DC still have lawn tickets available for only $30. The tweeter Center in Camden/Philly has a capacity of about 25,000, while the Bristow VA/Washington DC venue has a capacity of 20,000. It will be easier to judge Coldplay's overall popularity once the full weeks sales figures are actually in. If the hyped numbers are correct for the album sales, then it appears that Coldplay's concert ticket selling ability is well behind its album selling ability in North America.

06-08-2005, 10:16 AM	#92
mosquito The Fly Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 115 Local Time: 12:51 AM	X&Y first week in japan 36,000 copies sold.

06-08-2005, 10:32 AM	#93
edge3 Refugee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 1,385 Local Time: 12:51 AM	34,347 to be precise - # 6 debut on Oricon International chart. Quite surprising : I thought it would do much more in Japan. Oasis, DBTT, did 95K. HTDAAB did 84K. So, Round 2 to U2

06-08-2005, 11:00 AM	#95
edge3 Refugee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 1,385 Local Time: 12:51 AM	Well, so far the critics have actually given better reviews to HTDAAB. Go check out Metacritic.com : X&Y has a score of 67 from 14 reviews. HTDAAB had a score of 83 after 14 reviews, 78 after 25 reviews (81+ = universal acclaim).

06-08-2005, 11:06 AM	#96
ChangeTheTemperature The Fly Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Toronto Posts: 208 Local Time: 12:51 AM	Hits predicts 1st week sales of 650-700K in the US based on 1 day of sales.