Can 1st week sales of new Coldplay album (X&Y) match those of HTDAAB?

[financeguy]

Originally posted by Needle_Chill
I hate when people are so closed minded... no wonder so many bands get swallowed up so quickly these days, nobody gives them time to evolve and develop.

It's not closed mindedness, I do own both their albums and to be honest they don't do anything for me. They just don't rock or have rhythm. A few undeniably great singles, I admit.

I could name lots of better bands that haven't got the exposure they have. Frankly, I think they've been lucky - and fine, fair play to them, but it's not for me.

As regards, Chris Martin's charity work - I applaud him.

As regards them being fans of U2, well I think they have good taste in music, but that in itself doesn't necessarily make me want to listen to them.

Each to their own I guess!

[Needle_Chill]

Originally posted by financeguy


It's not closed mindedness, I do own both their albums and to be honest they don't do anything for me. They just don't rock or have rhythm. A few undeniably great singles, I admit.

I could name lots of better bands that haven't got the exposure they have. Frankly, I think they've been lucky - and fine, fair play to them, but it's not for me.

As regards, Chris Martin's charity work - I applaud him.

As regards them being fans of U2, well I think they have good taste in music, but that in itself doesn't necessarily make me want to listen to them.

Each to their own I guess!

I didn't say it was a bad thing not to like their music at all, that's cool and to each his own of course!

But you were saying that they have no passion for music, and that they were boring.

I think it's the opposite: they have a great passion for writing and performing their music (even if you have a dislike for it) , and they're definitely not boring IMO as they seem to care (much like U2) about the world they live in.

In my opinion, these two things are what will some day make them the world's biggest band, much like these two things made U2 so great over 25 years.

But yeah, sorry to highjack the thread, I'll shut up now...

[Yahweh]

No they cant....no way in hell coldplay would ever sell 800 thousand in the US in its first week they will be lucky to sell 220 thousand.

[redandblack]

i think it has a strong possibility. i heard a bootleg of there first single, and its a lot more poppy than vertigo. I think it will have more appeal. incidently you can hear the single on coldplays website starting today at 21:00 GMT

[ybird3k]

just heard new coldplay single 'speed of sound',
wouldnt say its anything special, its not rock at all, i cant see how people compare coldpay to U2, coldpay haven't had a proper rock song.

[andyuk]

my predication is coldplay will sell 300,000 first week in UK Oasis will sell 225,000 and white stripes about 100,000 these would be great figures as U2 sold 190,000 in first week in UK i think

Originally posted by andyuk
my predication is coldplay will sell 300,000 first week in UK Oasis will sell 225,000 and white stripes about 100,000 these would be great figures as U2 sold 190,000 in first week in UK i think

U2 sold 200,000 in the UK during its first week

[biff]

Originally posted by Needle_Chill


Coldplay are a very good, young band

Not so young, actually. The average age of the band is, I believe, 28. By the time U2 were that age, they had completed 6 full albums and a couple of EPs. They had been touring for close to ten years and had produced at least one (in my opinion more than one) masterpiece. I will leave it to the experts here to say how many millions of albums they had sold by then. I would say Coldplay have a massive amount of catching up to do, and personally, I don't think they ever will.

[fedeu2]

After listening to Speed of sound, the new single, I highly doubt the new Coldplay album will be a monster seller.
Actually, if the rest of the album sounds similar to the new single, I foresee the beginning of Coldplay demise, much like what happened to Oasis back in 1997.

Do I need to say the new single sucks in my eyes?

Originally posted by biff


Not so young, actually. The average age of the band is, I believe, 28. By the time U2 were that age, they had completed 6 full albums and a couple of EPs. They had been touring for close to ten years and had produced at least one (in my opinion more than one) masterpiece. I will leave it to the experts here to say how many millions of albums they had sold by then. I would say Coldplay have a massive amount of catching up to do, and personally, I don't think they ever will.

[edge3]

This months Q magazine has quite an interesting front cover regarding the matter of Coldplay V U2.

[MissVelvetDress_75]

[q]Coldplay's 'Speed of Sound' Shoots to No 1 on iTunes Music Store Overnight, Marking Incredible Worldwide Rise; 'X&Y,' Album Due in Stores June 7, 2005

LOS ANGELES (Capitol Records) - "Speed of Sound," the first single from Coldplay's forthcoming "X&Y," is No 1 on all iTunes Music Stores worldwide one short day after its release. "Speed of Sound" had an incredible rise globally on the iTunes Music Store achieving the No 1 position on all 15 stores. The iTunes Music Store is in Austria, Belgium, Canada, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, the United Kingdom, and the United States.

"'Speed of Sound's' No 1 iTunes Music Store debut confirms that the worldwide anticipation for new Coldplay music is undeniable," said Andrew Slater, Capitol Records' President & CEO. "As great as expectations are for this release, excitement will be met with a career-defining album from Coldplay."

"Coldplay's 'Speed of Sound' has been a hit with music fans topping iTunes charts today in every country, only a day after its release," said Eddy Cue, Apple's vice president of Applications. "With iTunes' extensive reach, there's no faster way to bring a pre-release track like this to fans around the world."

"Speed of Sound" went to radio on Monday; the companion video for the single will be directed by Mark Romanek. Coldplay will headline the first day of the Coachella Music Festival in Indio, CA on Saturday, April 30th. Following the release of "X&Y," Coldplay will embark on their biggest world tour yet, beginning with dates in Europe, the UK and Ireland. Plans are in the works for a 40-city North American summer tour.

Since forming in London in 1998, Coldplay - comprised of Guy Berryman (bass), Jonny Buckland (lead guitar), Will Champion (drums) and Chris Martin (vocals, guitar, keyboards) - has won four Grammy awards, including the prestigious Record of the Year award for "Clocks." The band's two previous releases, "Parachutes" (2000) and "A Rush of Blood to the Head" (2002), have sold a combined 20 million copies worldwide.[/q]

[q]Coldplay Scores Top 10 U.S. Debut 'Speed of Sound'
Fri Apr 29, 2005 06:37 PM ET
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LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Coldplay became the first British band since the Beatles to score a single debut in the U.S. top 10 songs on Billboard's Hot 100 chart, the music magazine said on Friday.

The single, "Speed of Sound," opened at No. 8 on the chart, which ranks sales and airplay, making Coldplay the only other U.K. band besides the Beatles to register such a hit.

The Beatles first graced the U.S. chart in the week of Sept. 14, 1968 when "Hey Jude," the Beatles' first single on their own Apple imprint, entered the chart at No. 10, according to Billboard.

A year later, the Beatles' "Get Back" also opened at No. 10. In 1970, the Beatles' "Let It Be" became the highest Hot 100 debut at the time when it bowed at No. 6.

The Beatles' "Free as a Bird" debuted at No. 10 in 1995.[/q]

[Squire]

Coldplay is a good band. And that's all.

You shouldn't even compare them to Oasis.
Oasis were the biggest band in the world in 95/96. There was a complete obssesion by the media, and to be honest, i really think they deserved. Noel is still a a terrific songwriter, but times have changed. Oasis are no longer relevant. But that's the difference between Oasis and Coldplay. Coldplay are not relevant... they never were either. They are just a band with good music, and lucky because nowadays any POP band can sell millions. They just "born" at the right time at the right place.

Don't compare Coldplay with Oasis.

Oasis are legends... who ruled the world in 95/96. What's the Story (Monring Glory) is one of the best albums of the 90's. Those two years belong to them.

[edge3]

Originally posted by MissVelvetDress_75
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LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Coldplay became the first British band since the Beatles to score a single debut in the U.S. top 10 songs on Billboard's Hot 100 chart, the music magazine said on Friday. /q]

BUT....Discoteque debuted at #10 on BB Hot 100 in 1997 - I s'pose U2 are counted as being Irish not British.

Also, Vertigo would have probably have done as well as, if not better than Speed Of Sound if the same charted was used 7 months ago.

[D'oh!]

u2 are definetely counted as irish.

But first since the beatles........... thats pretty staggering

[edge3]

I would also definately class U2 as being Irish as opposed to being British. But sometimes U2 are counted as being British as well as being Irish. The distinction isn't always clear & I don't wish for the performances of Discoteque & Vertigo on the US Hot 100 singles chart to be undermined in any way.

Still, it is indeed a great achievement for Coldplay to be at #8 with SOS & I'm very glad for them. Perhaps this will now help X&Y to debut at #1 on the US BB album chart with sales of 500K - who knows?

U2 are DEFINETELY irish. How can anyone even consider otherwise.

[STING2]

Originally posted by Squire
Coldplay is a good band. And that's all.

You shouldn't even compare them to Oasis.
Oasis were the biggest band in the world in 95/96. There was a complete obssesion by the media, and to be honest, i really think they deserved. Noel is still a a terrific songwriter, but times have changed. Oasis are no longer relevant. But that's the difference between Oasis and Coldplay. Coldplay are not relevant... they never were either. They are just a band with good music, and lucky because nowadays any POP band can sell millions. They just "born" at the right time at the right place.

Don't compare Coldplay with Oasis.

Oasis are legends... who ruled the world in 95/96. What's the Story (Monring Glory) is one of the best albums of the 90's. Those two years belong to them.

Oasis may have been the biggest band in the United Kingdom and other parts of Europe in 1995/1996, but that was not the case here in North America. Oasis would struggle to fill small arena's here during that time or play theaters. They were not even close to trying stadiums here in the United States. In fact, a band like INXS was more popular here in North America in 1988 than Oasis was in 1995/1996.

[edge3]

True. But I believe Oasis recently sold out Madison Square Garden & I still think that Definately Maybe is one of the all time great debut albums. Coldplay's 'Parachutes' is quite a good debut album as well....& I still think X&Y could debut at #1 in US with sales of 500K

[Squire]

Originally posted by STING2


Oasis may have been the biggest band in the United Kingdom and other parts of Europe in 1995/1996, but that was not the case here in North America. Oasis would struggle to fill small arena's here during that time or play theaters. They were not even close to trying stadiums here in the United States. In fact, a band like INXS was more popular here in North America in 1988 than Oasis was in 1995/1996.

I said Oasis were the biggest band in the world in those 2 years. North America is not the world.
Oasis belonged to a style of music whose media categorized it as "Britpop", and we all know how difficult it is for music made in UK to actually penetrate in USA market, not to mention a kind of music typically Britain.

Oasis were in fact the biggest band in the world in 95/96.
Now if you ask me if they were as successfull as they were in the rest of the world... my answer will be NO. But is it sufficient to not consider them as the biggest band in the world? My answer will be of course NO.

[fedeu2]

I agree with you in that Oasis in their hayday were a better band than Coldplay. I didnt like the new coldplay single, it sounds much like clocks in my eyes so I can´t see how on earth the new coldplay album will be an incredible success as everyone seems to believe. I even like Lyla (the new Oasis single) better than speed of sound. Go figure.

Having said that, I don´t think Oasis were the biggest band in the world in the 1995/1996 period. U2 still were the biggest band in the world at that time, even if they hadnt released new material in between 1993-1997 (I´m not counting Passengers or HMTMKMKM), the years when Oasis were truly a big band.
As Sting pointed out, they never were able to become really popular in the States (30 % of the world music market). Remember, in 1997, when Oasis were still a popular band worldwide they opened for U2 in Oakland during Popmart. Do you honestly think the biggest band in the world would do such a thing?

What I´m trying to say is Oasis were a flash in the pan pretty much the same as Coldplay will be.

They don´t have what it takes to dethrone U2 from their pedestal: the biggest baddest band in the world since 1987, thats 18 years in a row, a feat with no precedents in the history of rock music.

Bottom line: don´t believe british media hype!!! They would do anything in the world to have a british band taking the place of U2.

Originally posted by Squire
Coldplay is a good band. And that's all.

You shouldn't even compare them to Oasis.
Oasis were the biggest band in the world in 95/96. There was a complete obssesion by the media, and to be honest, i really think they deserved. Noel is still a a terrific songwriter, but times have changed. Oasis are no longer relevant. But that's the difference between Oasis and Coldplay. Coldplay are not relevant... they never were either. They are just a band with good music, and lucky because nowadays any POP band can sell millions. They just "born" at the right time at the right place.

Don't compare Coldplay with Oasis.

Oasis are legends... who ruled the world in 95/96. What's the Story (Monring Glory) is one of the best albums of the 90's. Those two years belong to them.