Box office figures from other tours

[STING2]

www.flickr.com/photos/10052914@N00/376127010/

40 dollars Canadian was roughly 30 dollars US back in 1984.

 

[STING2]

www.elvisconcerts.com/liv1957.htm

www.rarebeatles.com/photopg7/photopg7.htm#1964

Wow, I guess I was wrong about the Beatles being the first to use sports venues for concerts. Nice websites. Interesting that the website says that most of the Beatles concerts from 1966 did not completely sellout. It was a different time back then of course, and the Beatles were indeed the most popular band at the time.

 

[STING2]

I understand that prices for Bridges to Babylon tour were higher than Popmart. That´s the reason why the former grossed more money despite Popmart having a higher attendance.
Of course, I´m talking about USA here.

Actually, I think the Bridges To Babylon tour which played shows in 1997/1998/1999 in the USA did come out with a higher attendance total, but I would have to check to make sure.

 

[U2FanPeter]

Your realize though that your ticket prices are in CANADIAN dollars and not in US dollars. U2 had a lower ticket price for their shows in Canada on the POPMART tour than they did for US shows.

Does that explain why the Jacksons had a ticket price about double of Bowie or Van Halen? Same Venue about 1 year apart.

40 dollars Canadian was roughly the same as 30 US dollars in 1984.

Can I see your source for that fact? Did you know that the canadain dollar was once worth more than the US about 15 years ago?

I also find the projected inflation value of $6(1966) = $29(1997) to be on the low side.

Any comment of ticket prices for The 3 Tenors 94-97 US Stadiums shows. Pavarotti is friends with Bono, y'know.

u2fp

 

[STING2]

Does that explain why the Jacksons had a ticket price about double of Bowie or Van Halen? Same Venue about 1 year apart.



Can I see your source for that fact? Did you know that the canadain dollar was once worth more than the US about 15 years ago?

I also find the projected inflation value of $6(1966) = $29(1997) to be on the low side.

Any comment of ticket prices for The 3 Tenors 94-97 US Stadiums shows. Pavarotti is friends with Bono, y'know.

u2fp

The Jacksons had a ticket price that was roughly double of all major artist touring around that time in both the USA and Canada.

Well, the one source I have for the exchange rate is the Amusement Business records that gave the value of the amount GROSSED for the Canadian shows in both US dollars and Canadian dollars. The figures were printed in Billboard magazine, and can be checked by going to any library that has back issues of Billboard magazine on microfilm. Just got to the Billboard Boxscore chart for one of the issues in November, or December 1984. I'll have to look at it again to get the date, plus the figure in Canadian dollars.

There are couple of ways you can caculate the inflation from year to year. Find out the inflation rate for each year and do the math yourself, or you can use an inflation caculator like the one below:

http://www.westegg.com/inflation/

The calculator gets slightly different results than you would get doing the math yourself do to rounding, but its very accurate.

I thought the 3 Tenors concerts were in Arena's? In any event, it was not a large scale stadium tour like those launched by individual artist. A dozen shows over a 3 year period is not a good comparison. U2 could have charged a lot more in 1997 if they had only done 12 shows instead of 46.

 

[U2FanPeter]

I just find it extremely surprising that it would only cost $20-30 USD to see Elvis(1957) or the Beatles in 2005 dollars.

As for the 3 Tenors, here's were the only shows they performed:

1990 Rome at World Cup(Best Selling CD)

July 1994 - Dodger Stadium live PPV(cd+home video)

June 1996-March 1997 World Tour:
Tokyo
London
Munich
Gothenburg
Vienna
Dusseldorf
Melbourne
NY - Giants Stadium
Toronto - Skydome
Vancouver - BC Place
Houston
Miami

2 shows plus a 12 date World Stadium tour. They were given $90mil for the dozen date tour including upwards of $20mil for Each Tenor(Pavarotti getting the most).

Does this sound familiar to the $100mil tour/$20mil each offer given to U2 for their world tour?

Bono is friends with Pavarotti, y'know.

u2fp

 

[STING2]

I just find it extremely surprising that it would only cost $20-30 USD to see Elvis(1957) or the Beatles in 2005 dollars.

As for the 3 Tenors, here's were the only shows they performed:

1990 Rome at World Cup(Best Selling CD)

July 1994 - Dodger Stadium live PPV(cd+home video)

June 1996-March 1997 World Tour:
Tokyo
London
Munich
Gothenburg
Vienna
Dusseldorf
Melbourne
NY - Giants Stadium
Toronto - Skydome
Vancouver - BC Place
Houston
Miami

2 shows plus a 12 date World Stadium tour. They were given $90mil for the dozen date tour including upwards of $20mil for Each Tenor(Pavarotti getting the most).

Does this sound familiar to the $100mil tour/$20mil each offer given to U2 for their world tour?

Bono is friends with Pavarotti, y'know.

u2fp

Do you have any Amusement Business Boxscore results that actually show 3 Tenors making that much money on the road. U2's September 1997 Boxscore for the Reggio Emilia Italy concert was the largest grossing single show in history at that time, with over 5 million gross from having 150,000 people in attendance.

If 3 Tenors were given a profit of $90 million dollars from a 12 date tour, than the GROSS figure would have been over $100 million dollars. Probably a GROSS of 10 million dollars per show! I would have to see an amusement business boxscore result to actually believe this. Do you have the dates for the individual shows?

I thought it was 12 shows in North America, but it was only 5 shows in North America. I wonder how much money U2 could have made from just playing 5 shows in North America instead of 46? U2 were able to charge $50 dollars a ticket on POPMART and played to 1.6 million people at 46 shows. But they could substantially increase the ticket price if they only did 5 shows to 250,000 people.

In any event, the two tours are simply not comparable. The price of tickets is artificially raised when the supply of them is so low on a 5 date tour compared to a 46 date tour. If U2 had only done 5 shows in North America, the ticket price would be much higher than just $50 dollars, although I don't know exactly how high it would go.

 

[STING2]

I just find it extremely surprising that it would only cost $20-30 USD to see Elvis(1957) or the Beatles in 2005 dollars.


u2fp

Thats simply what 5 dollars in that years money equals today. Obviously, a Beatles reunion or Elvis on tour would be much higher in ticket price than the adjusted price level just based on the inflation raised value of the dollar. Again, there have been huge changes in the music industry and the record buying population since that time. While a Beatles tour in 1966 did not completely sellout despite the fact they were the most popular artist around, a Beatles tour in 1984 would have soldout everywhere at a ticket price more comperable to what we see today when adjusted for inflation.

 

[Mirrorball06]

I'm surprised it was only the 18th highest grossing tour of the year. I thought it would have been at least top 10. But then again, they only played 40 shows in North America. The ticket price usually was $13.50.

An interesting note about the Unforgettable Fire tour. When U2 came through Philadelphia and played the Spectrum twice, they soldout both shows, even all seats behind the stage, 18,450 people per night. Something Def Leppard, Metallica, Guns N' Roses, and several other artist never completely did at the peak of their careers. Yet, U2 were doing it with only two albums having been certified platinum in the USA at that time.

So the estimateded gross can be as follow

2nd leg attendance 61.678 * 13,50 = $832,653
4rd leg attendance 577,920 * 13,50 = $7,801,920

Total $8,634,573. Is that a fair estimate?

What are the usualy ticket prices for the Boy, October and War tour?

And Sting2, thans for the gross figures for the Elevation Tour. Great work!!! Hope there are some more figures from that tour.

 

[STING2]

So the estimateded gross can be as follow

2nd leg attendance 61.678 * 13,50 = $832,653
4rd leg attendance 577,920 * 13,50 = $7,801,920

Total $8,634,573. Is that a fair estimate?

What are the usualy ticket prices for the Boy, October and War tour?

And Sting2, thans for the gross figures for the Elevation Tour. Great work!!! Hope there are some more figures from that tour.

I think that is a good estimate.

Ticket prices for:

Boy $4
October $6.50
War $10

 

[fedeu2]

You are right if you take into account the whole Bridges to Babylon tour but in 1997 (that´s the only year that Popmart visited the US) I´m positive that Popmart was the tour with the higher attendance (it´s a small difference indeed: 100,000 tickets).

Actually, I think the Bridges To Babylon tour which played shows in 1997/1998/1999 in the USA did come out with a higher attendance total, but I would have to check to make sure.

 

[alexvox]

ELEVATION TOUR LEG 1 (My source - Unknown, sorry)

March 24-26, 2001 37 969 37 969
March 28, 2001 19 054 19 054
March 30, 2001 20 596 20 596
April 2, 2001 14 859 14 859
April 3, 2001 18 086 18 086
April 6, 2001 18 462 18 462
April 9-10, 2001 35 778 35 778
April 12, 2001 21 807 21 807
April 13, 2001 18 520 18 520
April 15, 2001 16 653 16 653
April 17, 2001 14 850 14 850
April 19-20, 2001 35 550 35 550
April 23-26, 2001 49 377 49 377
April 28, 2001 17 575 17 575
May 1, 2001 18 691 18 691
May 3, 2001 18 763 18 763
May 4, 2001 16 642 16 642
May 6, 2001 14 863 14 863
May 7, 2001 15 495 15 495
May 9, 2001 18 622 18 622
May 10, 2001 15 088 15 088
May 12-16, 2001 78 275 78 275
May 24-25, 2001 39 048 39 048
May 27-28, 2001 42 198 42 198
May 30, 2001 21 403 21 403

 

[alexvox]

LEG 2

July 6-7, 2001 20 000 20 000
July 9-10, 2001 31 511 31 511
July 12-13, 2001 36 915 36 915
July 15, 2001 13 543 13 543
July 17-18, 2001 34 000 34 000
July 21, 2001 73 061 73 061
July 23-24, 2001 26 000 26 000
July 26-27, 2001 32 148 32 148
July 29, 2001 20 030 20 030
July 31-Aug. 2, 2001 107 812 107 812
Aug. 5-6, 2001 32 878 32 878
Aug. 8, 2001 18 000 18 000
Aug. 11-12, 2001 38 742 38 742
Aug. 14-15, 2001 23 022 23 022
Aug. 18-22, 2001 73 742 73 742
Aug. 25, 2001 78 709 78 709
Aug. 27-28, 2001 19 231 19 231
May 31, 2001 18 434 18 434
June 2, 2001 15 515 15 515
June 3, 2001 15 717 15 717
June 5-9, 2001 68 329 68 329
June 11-12, 2001 38 700 38 700
June 14-15, 2001 37 971 37 971
June 17-19, 2001 36 632 36 632
June 21-22, 2001 39 282 39 282

 

[alexvox]

LEG 3 (Source : unknown)

Sep. 1, 2001 78 709 78 709
Oct. 10, 2001 11 441 11 441
Oct. 12, 2001 21 063 21 063
Oct. 13, 2001 18 486 18 486
Oct. 15-16, 2001 39 368 39 368
Oct. 19, 2001 13 510 13 510
Oct. 24-27, 2001 55 155 55 155
Oct. 28, 2001 19 589 19 589
Oct. 30-31, 2001 26 575 26 575
Nov. 2, 2001 19 484 19 484
Nov. 5, 2001 16 585 16 585
Nov. 7, 2001 18 432 18 432
Nov. 9, 2001 17 197 17 197
Nov. 12-13, 2001 33 448 33 448
Nov. 15-16, 2001 35 546 35 546
Nov. 18, 2001 17 999 17 999
Nov. 19, 2001 16 724 16 724
Nov. 20, 2001 13 789 13 789
Nov. 23, 2001 17 106 17 106
Nov. 25, 2001 17 489 17 489
Nov. 27, 2001 13 456 13 456
Nov. 28, 2001 16 051 16 051
Nov. 30, 2001 20 160 20 160
Dec. 1, 2001 17 935 17 935
Dec. 2, 2001 16 197 16 197

 

[STING2]

ELEVATION TOUR LEG 1 (My source - Unknown, sorry)

March 24-26, 2001 37 969 37 969
March 28, 2001 19 054 19 054
March 30, 2001 20 596 20 596
April 2, 2001 14 859 14 859
April 3, 2001 18 086 18 086
April 6, 2001 18 462 18 462
April 9-10, 2001 35 778 35 778
April 12, 2001 21 807 21 807
April 13, 2001 18 520 18 520
April 15, 2001 16 653 16 653
April 17, 2001 14 850 14 850
April 19-20, 2001 35 550 35 550
April 23-26, 2001 49 377 49 377
April 28, 2001 17 575 17 575
May 1, 2001 18 691 18 691
May 3, 2001 18 763 18 763
May 4, 2001 16 642 16 642
May 6, 2001 14 863 14 863
May 7, 2001 15 495 15 495
May 9, 2001 18 622 18 622
May 10, 2001 15 088 15 088
May 12-16, 2001 78 275 78 275
May 24-25, 2001 39 048 39 048
May 27-28, 2001 42 198 42 198
May 30, 2001 21 403 21 403

Hey thanks for all these figures alexvox! If the source is unknown, did you obtain them from somewhere on the internet? If so, where? Was it an e-mail, another message board, some other place on the internet, a source off the internet, something you had, but forgot what the source was, I'm just curious.

Thanks!

Also, could you post the concert gross for all of these shows as well.

Thanks!

 

[STING2]

Thanks to Alexvox we now have all the official attendance figures for each show on Elevation.



ELEVATION 1ST LEG
1, 2. Miami/Ft. Lauderdale March 24, 26, 2001 National Car Rental Center GROSS: $3,032,028 ATTENDANCE: 37,969

3. Charlotte March 29, 2001 Charlotte Coliseum GROSS: $1,447,355 ATTENDANCE: 19,054

4. Atlanta March 30, 2001 Philips Arena GROSS: $1,500,277 ATTENDANCE: 20,596

5. Houston April 2, 2001 Compaq Center GROSS: $1,198,589 ATTENDANCE: 14,859

6. Dallas April 3, 2001 Reunion Arena GROSS: $1,450,655 ATTENDANCE: 18,166 (alexvox 18,086)

7. Denver April 6, 2001 Pepsi Center GROSS: $1,509,290 ATTENDANCE: 18,462

8, 9. Calgary April 9-10, 2001 Pengrowth Sadledome GROSS: $1,824,131 ATTENDANCE: 35,778

10. Tacoma April 12, 2001 Tacoma Dome GROSS: $1,671,880 ATTENDANCE: 21,807

11. Vancouver April 13, 2001 G.M. Place GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 18,520

12. Portland April 15, 2001 Rose Garden GROSS: $1,276,120 ATTENDANCE: 16,653

13. San Diego April 17, 2001 San Diego Sports Arena GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 14,850

14, 15. San Jose April 19-20, 2001 San Jose Arena GROSS: $2,878,940 ATTENDANCE: 35,550

16, 17, 18. Anaheim April 23-24, 26, 2001 Arrowhead Pond GROSS: $4,152,640 ATTENDANCE 49,377

19. Phoenix April 28, 2001 America West Arena GROSS: $1,424,390 ATTENDANCE: 17,575

20. Minneapolis May 1, 2001 Target Center GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 18,691

21. Cleveland May 3, 2001 Gund Arena GROSS: $1,492,460 ATTENDANCE: 18,763

22. Lexington May 4, 2001 Rupp Arena GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 16,642

23. Pittsburgh May 6, 2001 Mellon Arena GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 14,863

24. Columbus May 7, 2001 Nationwide Arena GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 15,495

25. Millwaukee May 9, 2001 Bradley Center GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 18,622

26. Indianapolis May 10, 2001 Consesco Fieldhouse GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 15,088

27, 28, 29, 30. Chicago May 12-13, 15-16, 2001 United Center GROSS: $6,393,525 ATTENDANCE: 78,275

31, 32. Toronto May 24-25, 2001 Air Canada Centre GROSS: $2,096,034 ATTENDANCE: 39,048

33, 34. Montreal May 27-28, 2001 Molson Centre GROSS: $2,090,423 ATTENDANCE: 42,198

35. Detroit May 30, 2001 Palace of Auburn Hills GROSS: $1,638,325 ATTENDANCE: 21,173 (alexvox 21,403)

36. Buffalo May 31, 2001 HSBC Arena GROSS: $1,422,510 ATTENDANCE: 18,434

37. Albany June 2, 2001 Pepsi Arena GROSS: $1,215,470 ATTENDANCE: 15,515

38. Hartford June 3, 2001 Civic Center GROSS: $1,244,825 ATTENDANCE: 15,717

39, 40, 41, 42. Boston June 5-6, 8-9, 2001 Fleet Center GROSS: $5,620,260 ATTENDANCE: 68,139 (Alexvox 68,329)

43, 44. Philadelphia June 11-12, 2001 First Union Center GROSS: $3,076,345 ATTENDANCE: 38,536 (Alexvox 38,700)

45, 46. Washington June 14-15, 2001 MCI Center GROSS: $3,172,418 ATTENDANCE: 37,971

47, 48. New York June 17, 19, 2001 Madison Square Garden GROSS: $3,141,260 ATTENDANCE: 36,632

49, 50. East Rutherford June 21-22, 2001 Continental Airlines Arena GROSS: $3,205,680 ATTENDANCE: 39,282

1ST LEG OF THE ELEVATION TOUR: 50 SHOWS
GROSS: $69,910,000 ATTENDANCE: 904,829 (Alexvox 908,817)

ELEVATION 2ND LEG
51, 52. Copenhagen July 6-7, 2001 Forum GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 20,000

53, 54. Stockholm July 9-10, 2001 Globe GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 31,511

55, 56. Cologne July 12-13, 2001 Arena GROSS: ? ATTTENDANCE: 36,915

57. Munich July 15, 2001 Olympiahalle GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 13,543

58, 59. Paris July 17-18, 2001 Bercy GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 34,000

60. Turin July 21, 2001 Stadio Delle Alpi GROSS: $2,616,225 ATTENDANCE: 73,061

61, 62. Zurich July 23-24, 2001 Hallenstadion GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 26,000

63, 64. Vienna July 26-27, 2001 Stadthalle GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 32,148

65. Berlin July 29, 2001 Waldbuehne GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 20,030

66, 67, 68. Arnhem July 31, August 1, 3, 2001 Gelredome GROSS: $4,015,276 ATTENDANCE: 107,812

69, 70. Antwerp August 5-6, 2001 Sportpaleis GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 32,878

71. Barelona August 8, 2001 Palau St. Jordi GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 18,000

72, 73. Manchester August 11-12, 2001 MEN Arena GROSS: $2,073,724 ATTENDANCE: 38,742

74, 75. Birmingham August 14-15, 2001 NEC Arena GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 23,022

76, 77, 78, 79. London August 18-19, 21-22, 2001 Earl’s Court GROSS: $4,475,265 ATTENDANCE: 73,742

80, 81. Dublin August 25, September 1, 2001 Slane Castle GROSS: $6,683,996 ATTENDANCE: 157,418

82, 83. Glasgow August 27-28, 2001 SECC GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 19,231

2ND LEG OF THE ELEVATION TOUR: 33 SHOWS
GROSS: $33,500,000 ATTENDANCE: 758,053

ELEVATION 3RD LEG
84. South Bend October 10, 2001 Joyce Center, Univ. Of Notre Dame GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 11,441

85. Montreal October 12, 2001 Molson Centre GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 21,063

86. Hamilton October 13, 2001 Copps Coliseum GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 18,486

87, 88. Chicago October 15-16, 2001 United Center GROSS: $3,206,600 ATTENDANCE: 39,368

89. Baltimore October 19, 2001 Baltimore Arena GROSS: $1,131,610 ATTENDANCE: 13,510

90, 91, 92. New York October 24-25, 27, 2001 Madison Square Garden GROSS: $4,706,370 ATTENDANCE: 55,155

93. East Rutherford October 28, 2001 Continental Airlines Arena GROSS: $1,596,735 ATTENDANCE: 19,589

94, 95. Providence October 30-31, 2001 Dunkin Donuts Center GROSS: $2,269,218 ATTENDANCE: 26,575

96. Philadelphia November 2, 2001 First Union Center GROSS: $1,541,360 ATTENDANCE: 19,320 (Alexvox 19,484)

97. Austin November 5, 2001 Frank Erwin Center, Univ. Of Texas GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 16,585

98. Denver November 7, 2001 Pepsi Center GROSS: $1,505,225 ATTENDANCE: 18,432

99. Salt Lake City November 9, 2001 Delta Center GROSS: $1,347,245 ATTENDANCE: 17,197

100, 101. Los Angeles November 12-13, 2001 Staples Center GROSS: $2,987,433 ATTENDANCE: 33,448

102, 103. Oakland November 15-16, 2001 The Arena in Oakland GROSS: $2,920,335 ATTENDANCE: 35,546

104. Las Vegas November 18, 2001 Thomas and Mack Center, UNLV GROSS: $1,497,148 ATTENDANCE: 17,999

105. Los Angeles November 19, 2001 Staples Center GROSS: $1,493,716 ATTENDANCE: 16,724

106. Sacramento November 20, 2001 Arco Arena GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 13,789

107. Phoenix November 23, 2001 America West Arena GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 17,106

108. Dallas November 25, 2001 Reunion Arena GROSS: $1,417,350 ATTENDANCE: 17,489

109. Kansas City November 27, 2001 Kemper Arena GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 13,456

110. St. Louis November 28, 2001 Savvis Center GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 16,051

111. Atlanta November 30, 2001 Philips Arena GROSS: $1,504,925 ATTENDANCE: 18,535 (Alexvox 20,160)

112. Tampa December 1, 2001 Ice Palace GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 17,935

113. Miami December 2, 2001 American Airlines Arena GROSS: ?ATTENDANCE: 16,197

3RD LEG OF THE ELEVATION TOUR: 30 SHOWS
GROSS: $39,590,000 ATTENDANCE: 514,241 (Alexvox 512,785)

Combined 1st leg, 2nd leg and 3rd Leg: 113 SHOWS
GROSS: $143,000,000 ATTENDANCE: 2,155,845 (Alexvox 2,179,655)

 

[STING2]

ELEVATION TOUR LEG 1 (My source - Unknown, sorry)

March 24-26, 2001 37 969 37 969
March 28, 2001 19 054 19 054
March 30, 2001 20 596 20 596
April 2, 2001 14 859 14 859
April 3, 2001 18 086 18 086
April 6, 2001 18 462 18 462
April 9-10, 2001 35 778 35 778
April 12, 2001 21 807 21 807
April 13, 2001 18 520 18 520
April 15, 2001 16 653 16 653
April 17, 2001 14 850 14 850
April 19-20, 2001 35 550 35 550
April 23-26, 2001 49 377 49 377
April 28, 2001 17 575 17 575
May 1, 2001 18 691 18 691
May 3, 2001 18 763 18 763
May 4, 2001 16 642 16 642
May 6, 2001 14 863 14 863
May 7, 2001 15 495 15 495
May 9, 2001 18 622 18 622
May 10, 2001 15 088 15 088
May 12-16, 2001 78 275 78 275
May 24-25, 2001 39 048 39 048
May 27-28, 2001 42 198 42 198
May 30, 2001 21 403 21 403

Alexvox,

The following boxscore information that was posted in Billboard is in conflict with your information in terms of attendance levels:

6. Dallas April 3, 2001 Reunion Arena GROSS: $1,450,655 ATTENDANCE: 18,166 (alexvox 18,086)

35. Detroit May 30, 2001 Palace of Auburn Hills GROSS: $1,638,325 ATTENDANCE: 21,173 (alexvox 21,403)

39, 40, 41, 42. Boston June 5-6, 8-9, 2001 Fleet Center GROSS: $5,620,260 ATTENDANCE: 68,139 (Alexvox 68,329)

43, 44. Philadelphia June 11-12, 2001 First Union Center GROSS: $3,076,345 ATTENDANCE: 38,536 (Alexvox 38,700)

96. Philadelphia November 2, 2001 First Union Center GROSS: $1,541,360 ATTENDANCE: 19,320 (Alexvox 19,484)

111. Atlanta November 30, 2001 Philips Arena GROSS: $1,504,925 ATTENDANCE: 18,535 (Alexvox 20,160)


Could you recheck your information to make sure it is correct. The differences are only off by a few hundred tickets in each case, but it is still a mystery of why this is. This is why I'd like to know where you got your information from.

 

[alexvox]

Yes, these differences are surprising, but I confirm them :

EVENT DATE: ARTIST/EVENT: CITY/STATE: ATTENDANCE: CAPACITY:
March 24-26, 2001 U2, The Corrs Sunrise, Fla. 37 969 37 969
March 28, 2001 U2, Nelly Furtado Charlotte, N.C. 19 054 19 054
March 30, 2001 U2, Nelly Furtado Atlanta, Ga. 20 596 20 596
April 2, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Houston, Texas 14 859 14 859
April 3, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Dallas, Texas 18 086 18 086
April 6, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Denver, Colo. 18 462 18 462
April 9-10, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Calgary, Alberta 35 778 35 778
April 12, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Tacoma, Wash. 21 807 21 807
April 13, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Vancouver, British Columbia 18 520 18 520
April 15, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Portland, Ore. 16 653 16 653
April 17, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey San Diego, Calif. 14 850 14 850
April 19-20, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey San Jose, Calif. 35 550 35 550
April 23-26, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Anaheim, Calif. 49 377 49 377
April 28, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Phoenix, Ariz. 17 575 17 575
May 1, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Minneapolis, Minn. 18 691 18 691
May 3, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Cleveland, Ohio 18 763 18 763
May 4, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Lexington, Ky. 16 642 16 642
May 6, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Pittsburgh, Pa. 14 863 14 863
May 7, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Columbus, Ohio 15 495 15 495
May 9, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Milwaukee, Wis. 18 622 18 622
May 10, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Indianapolis, Ind. 15 088 15 088
May 12-16, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Chicago, Ill. 78 275 78 275
May 24-25, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Toronto, Ontario 39 048 39 048
May 27-28, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Montreal, Que. 42 198 42 198
May 30, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Auburn Hills, Mich. 21 403 21 403
May 31, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Buffalo, N.Y. 18 434 18 434
June 2, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Albany, N.Y. 15 515 15 515
June 3, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Hartford, Conn. 15 717 15 717
June 5-9, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Boston, Mass. 68 329 68 329
June 11-12, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Philadelphia, Pa. 38 700 38 700
June 14-15, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Washington, D.C. 37 971 37 971
June 17-19, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey New York, N.Y. 36 632 36 632
June 21-22, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey East Rutherford, N.J. 39 282 39 282
July 6-7, 2001 U2 Copenhagen, Denmark 20 000 20 000
July 9-10, 2001 U2 Stockholm, Sweden 31 511 31 511
July 12-13, 2001 U2 Koln, Germany 36 915 36 915
July 15, 2001 U2 Munich, Germany 13 543 13 543
July 17-18, 2001 U2 Paris, France 34 000 34 000
July 21, 2001 U2 Turin, Italy 73 061 73 061
July 23-24, 2001 U2 Zurich, Switzerland 26 000 26 000
July 26-27, 2001 U2 Vienna, Austria 32 148 32 148
July 29, 2001 U2 Berlin, Germany 20 030 20 030
July 31-Aug. 2, 2001 U2 Arnhem, The Netherlands 107 812 107 812
Aug. 5-6, 2001 U2 Antwerp, Belgium 32 878 32 878
Aug. 8, 2001 U2 Barcelona, Spain 18 000 18 000
Aug. 11-12, 2001 U2 Manchester, England 38 742 38 742
Aug. 14-15, 2001 U2 Birmingham, England 23 022 23 022
Aug. 18-22, 2001 U2 London, England 73 742 73 742
Aug. 25, 2001 U2 Meath, Ireland 78 709 78 709
Aug. 27-28, 2001 U2 Glasgow, Scotland 19 231 19 231
Sep. 1, 2001 U2 Meath, Ireland 78 709 78 709
Oct. 10, 2001 U2, Garbage Notre Dame, Ind. 11 441 11 441
Oct. 12, 2001 U2, Garbage Montreal, Que. 21 063 21 063
Oct. 13, 2001 U2, Garbage Hamilton, Ontario 18 486 18 486
Oct. 15-16, 2001 U2, Garbage Chicago, Ill. 39 368 39 368
Oct. 19, 2001 U2, Graham Parker Baltimore, Md. 13 510 13 510
Oct. 24-27, 2001 U2, Garbage, No Doubt, Stereophonics New York, N.Y. 55 155 55 155
Oct. 28, 2001 U2, Stereophonics East Rutherford, N.J. 19 589 19 589
Oct. 30-31, 2001 U2, Stereophonics Providence, R.I. 26 575 26 575
Nov. 2, 2001 U2, Stereophonics Philadelphia, Pa. 19 484 19 484
Nov. 5, 2001 U2, No Doubt Austin, Texas 16 585 16 585
Nov. 7, 2001 U2, No Doubt Denver, Colo. 18 432 18 432
Nov. 9, 2001 U2, No Doubt Salt Lake City, Utah 17 197 17 197
Nov. 12-13, 2001 U2, No Doubt Los Angeles, Calif. 33 448 33 448
Nov. 15-16, 2001 U2, No Doubt Oakland, Calif. 35 546 35 546
Nov. 18, 2001 U2, No Doubt Las Vegas, Nev. 17 999 17 999
Nov. 19, 2001 U2, No Doubt Los Angeles, Calif. 16 724 16 724
Nov. 20, 2001 U2, No Doubt Sacramento, Calif. 13 789 13 789
Nov. 23, 2001 U2, No Doubt Phoenix, Ariz. 17 106 17 106
Nov. 25, 2001 U2, No Doubt Dallas, Texas 17 489 17 489
Nov. 27, 2001 U2, Garbage Kansas City, Mo. 13 456 13 456
Nov. 28, 2001 U2, Garbage St. Louis, Mo. 16 051 16 051
Nov. 30, 2001 U2, Garbage Atlanta, Ga. 20 160 20 160
Dec. 1, 2001 U2, Garbage Tampa, Fla. 17 935 17 935
Dec. 2, 2001 U2, Garbage Miami, Fla. 16 197 16 197

 

[U2FanPeter]

Originally posted by alexvox
Nov. 28, 2001 U2, Garbage St. Louis, Mo. 16 051 16 051 [/B]

There was 2,000 empty seats at this show, both the arena manager and St. Louis newspaper have gone on record.

It was a very late addition to the tour and there was virtually no print or radio advertising.

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[alexvox]

Perhaps, but this show did officially sell out.

 

[STING2]

Yes, these differences are surprising, but I confirm them :

You say your "source" is unknown, but where are you getting the actual information from?

 

[STING2]

There was 2,000 empty seats at this show, both the arena manager and St. Louis newspaper have gone on record.

It was a very late addition to the tour and there was virtually no print or radio advertising.

u2fp

Thats true, but those tickets were never officially put on sale for purchase. A show is officially soldout when all tickets put on sale are sold.

 

[U2FanPeter]

Thats true, but those tickets were never officially put on sale for purchase. A show is officially soldout when all tickets put on sale are sold.

Just as long as the U2 concert Chronology book gets the facts straight I'm happy.

U2 deserve their sold out arena tour press releases.

 

[U2FanPeter]

Do you have any Amusement Business Boxscore results that actually show 3 Tenors making that much money on the road. U2's September 1997 Boxscore for the Reggio Emilia Italy concert was the largest grossing single show in history at that time, with over 5 million gross from having 150,000 people in attendance.

If 3 Tenors were given a profit of $90 million dollars from a 12 date tour, than the GROSS figure would have been over $100 million dollars. Probably a GROSS of 10 million dollars per show! I would have to see an amusement business boxscore result to actually believe this. Do you have the dates for the individual shows?

I thought it was 12 shows in North America, but it was only 5 shows in North America. I wonder how much money U2 could have made from just playing 5 shows in North America instead of 46? U2 were able to charge $50 dollars a ticket on POPMART and played to 1.6 million people at 46 shows. But they could substantially increase the ticket price if they only did 5 shows to 250,000 people.

In any event, the two tours are simply not comparable. The price of tickets is artificially raised when the supply of them is so low on a 5 date tour compared to a 46 date tour. If U2 had only done 5 shows in North America, the ticket price would be much higher than just $50 dollars, although I don't know exactly how high it would go.

From the Carreras website:

http://www.jcarreras.com/articles/1996/for070196.stm

 

[STING2]

From the Carreras website:

http://www.jcarreras.com/articles/1996/for070196.stm

1. It only list ticket price ranges for GIANTS Stadium which is in the New York City market and will naturally have higher ticket prices than other shows in other markets, especially for an event like this.

2. "Expected worldwide gross: up to $150 million from ticket sales, merchandise, TV rights and corporate sponsorships." The concert grosses U2 in the Rolling Stones have in amusement business are from TICKET SALES only!

3. If U2 or the Stones only did 10 shows around the world, they would be able to charge much higher ticket prices

4. The Tenors concerts are a multi-artist bill, while with U2 and the Stones, were only talking about a single artist.

5. I'd like to see official boxscore information, the news articles to often get their facts wrong.

 

[Mirrorball06]

I looked on the u2ticketstubswebsite and saw the following:

Montreal 1-10-87 for $24,50
Toronto 3-10-87 for $27,50
Vancouver 12-11-87 for $26,50
Toronto 24-3-92 $34,33
Vancouver 3/4-11-92 $34,50

I think that's in Canadian dollars. What are the equivalent for these prices in US dollars that time?

 

[Mirrorball06]

Yes, these differences are surprising, but I confirm them :

EVENT DATE: ARTIST/EVENT: CITY/STATE: ATTENDANCE: CAPACITY:
March 24-26, 2001 U2, The Corrs Sunrise, Fla. 37 969 37 969
March 28, 2001 U2, Nelly Furtado Charlotte, N.C. 19 054 19 054
March 30, 2001 U2, Nelly Furtado Atlanta, Ga. 20 596 20 596
April 2, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Houston, Texas 14 859 14 859
April 3, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Dallas, Texas 18 086 18 086
April 6, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Denver, Colo. 18 462 18 462
April 9-10, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Calgary, Alberta 35 778 35 778
April 12, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Tacoma, Wash. 21 807 21 807
April 13, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Vancouver, British Columbia 18 520 18 520
April 15, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Portland, Ore. 16 653 16 653
April 17, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey San Diego, Calif. 14 850 14 850
April 19-20, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey San Jose, Calif. 35 550 35 550
April 23-26, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Anaheim, Calif. 49 377 49 377
April 28, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Phoenix, Ariz. 17 575 17 575
May 1, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Minneapolis, Minn. 18 691 18 691
May 3, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Cleveland, Ohio 18 763 18 763
May 4, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Lexington, Ky. 16 642 16 642
May 6, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Pittsburgh, Pa. 14 863 14 863
May 7, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Columbus, Ohio 15 495 15 495
May 9, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Milwaukee, Wis. 18 622 18 622
May 10, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Indianapolis, Ind. 15 088 15 088
May 12-16, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Chicago, Ill. 78 275 78 275
May 24-25, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Toronto, Ontario 39 048 39 048
May 27-28, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Montreal, Que. 42 198 42 198
May 30, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Auburn Hills, Mich. 21 403 21 403
May 31, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Buffalo, N.Y. 18 434 18 434
June 2, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Albany, N.Y. 15 515 15 515
June 3, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Hartford, Conn. 15 717 15 717
June 5-9, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Boston, Mass. 68 329 68 329
June 11-12, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Philadelphia, Pa. 38 700 38 700
June 14-15, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey Washington, D.C. 37 971 37 971
June 17-19, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey New York, N.Y. 36 632 36 632
June 21-22, 2001 U2, PJ Harvey East Rutherford, N.J. 39 282 39 282
July 6-7, 2001 U2 Copenhagen, Denmark 20 000 20 000
July 9-10, 2001 U2 Stockholm, Sweden 31 511 31 511
July 12-13, 2001 U2 Koln, Germany 36 915 36 915
July 15, 2001 U2 Munich, Germany 13 543 13 543
July 17-18, 2001 U2 Paris, France 34 000 34 000
July 21, 2001 U2 Turin, Italy 73 061 73 061
July 23-24, 2001 U2 Zurich, Switzerland 26 000 26 000
July 26-27, 2001 U2 Vienna, Austria 32 148 32 148
July 29, 2001 U2 Berlin, Germany 20 030 20 030
July 31-Aug. 2, 2001 U2 Arnhem, The Netherlands 107 812 107 812
Aug. 5-6, 2001 U2 Antwerp, Belgium 32 878 32 878
Aug. 8, 2001 U2 Barcelona, Spain 18 000 18 000
Aug. 11-12, 2001 U2 Manchester, England 38 742 38 742
Aug. 14-15, 2001 U2 Birmingham, England 23 022 23 022
Aug. 18-22, 2001 U2 London, England 73 742 73 742
Aug. 25, 2001 U2 Meath, Ireland 78 709 78 709
Aug. 27-28, 2001 U2 Glasgow, Scotland 19 231 19 231
Sep. 1, 2001 U2 Meath, Ireland 78 709 78 709
Oct. 10, 2001 U2, Garbage Notre Dame, Ind. 11 441 11 441
Oct. 12, 2001 U2, Garbage Montreal, Que. 21 063 21 063
Oct. 13, 2001 U2, Garbage Hamilton, Ontario 18 486 18 486
Oct. 15-16, 2001 U2, Garbage Chicago, Ill. 39 368 39 368
Oct. 19, 2001 U2, Graham Parker Baltimore, Md. 13 510 13 510
Oct. 24-27, 2001 U2, Garbage, No Doubt, Stereophonics New York, N.Y. 55 155 55 155
Oct. 28, 2001 U2, Stereophonics East Rutherford, N.J. 19 589 19 589
Oct. 30-31, 2001 U2, Stereophonics Providence, R.I. 26 575 26 575
Nov. 2, 2001 U2, Stereophonics Philadelphia, Pa. 19 484 19 484
Nov. 5, 2001 U2, No Doubt Austin, Texas 16 585 16 585
Nov. 7, 2001 U2, No Doubt Denver, Colo. 18 432 18 432
Nov. 9, 2001 U2, No Doubt Salt Lake City, Utah 17 197 17 197
Nov. 12-13, 2001 U2, No Doubt Los Angeles, Calif. 33 448 33 448
Nov. 15-16, 2001 U2, No Doubt Oakland, Calif. 35 546 35 546
Nov. 18, 2001 U2, No Doubt Las Vegas, Nev. 17 999 17 999
Nov. 19, 2001 U2, No Doubt Los Angeles, Calif. 16 724 16 724
Nov. 20, 2001 U2, No Doubt Sacramento, Calif. 13 789 13 789
Nov. 23, 2001 U2, No Doubt Phoenix, Ariz. 17 106 17 106
Nov. 25, 2001 U2, No Doubt Dallas, Texas 17 489 17 489
Nov. 27, 2001 U2, Garbage Kansas City, Mo. 13 456 13 456
Nov. 28, 2001 U2, Garbage St. Louis, Mo. 16 051 16 051
Nov. 30, 2001 U2, Garbage Atlanta, Ga. 20 160 20 160
Dec. 1, 2001 U2, Garbage Tampa, Fla. 17 935 17 935
Dec. 2, 2001 U2, Garbage Miami, Fla. 16 197 16 197

But do you have the gross figures from that source too?

 

[Mirrorball06]

Got some more attendance figures for the War tour.

War 2nd leg
1. Chapel Hill April 23, 1983 Kenan Stadium GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 4,000

2. Norfolk April 24, 1983 Chrysler Hall GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

3. College Park April 25, 1983 Ritchie Stadium GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

4. Auburn April 27, 1983 Cayhuga Country Community College Gym GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 500

5. Rochester April 28, 1983 Rochester Institute Of Technology Ice Rink GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

6. Dehli April 29, 1983 State University Of New York GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

7. Providence April 30, 1983 Brown University GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

8. Stony Brook May 1, 1983 Unknown GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

9. Pittsburgh May 3, 1983 Fulton Theater GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

10, 11. Boston May 5-6, 1983 The Orpheum Theater two shows combined GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 5,600

12. Albany May 7, 1983 State University Of New York GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 13,000

13. Hartford May 8, 1983 Trinity College GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 500

14. New Heaven May 10, 1983 Woolsey Hall GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

15. New York May 11, 1983 Palladium GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 3,400

16. Passaic May 12, 1983 Capitol Theater GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 2,000

17, 18. Philadelphia May 13-14, 1983 Tower Theater GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 6,000

19. Buffalo May 16, 1983 Shea Center GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

20. Toronto May 17, 1983 Massey Hall GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 2,689

21. Cleveland May 19, 1983 Music Hall GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 3,000

22. Detroit May 20, 1983 Grand Circus Theater GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 2,839

23. Chicago May 21, 1983 Aragon Ballroom GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 4,000

24. Minneapolis May 22, 1983 Northrop Auditorium GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 3,672

25. Vancouver May 25, 1983 Queen Elisabeth Theater GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 2,845

26. Seattle May 26, 1983 Paramount Theater GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 3,000

27. Portland May 27, 1983 Paramount Theater GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 2,500

28. Devore May 30, 1983 Glen Helen Regional Park GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 125,000

29. San Francisco June 1, 1983 Civic Auditorium GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE : 6.359

30. Salt Lake City June 3, 1983 Salt Palace Assembley Hall GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 500

31. Denver June 5, 1983 Red Rocks Amphitheater GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 9,000

32. Boulder June 6, 1983 University of Colorado GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

33. Wichita June 7, 1983 Unknown GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 2,000

34. Kansas City June 8, 1983 Memorial Hall GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 3,000

35. Tulsa June 9, 1983 The Brady Theater GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 1,000

36. Norman June 10, 1983 Lloyd Noble Center, U of Oklahoma GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 2,000

37. Austin June 11, 1983 The Meadows GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

38. Dallas June 13, 1983 Bronco Bowl GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 3,000

39. Houston June 14, 1983 Music Hall GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 3,021

40. Los Angeles June 17, 1938 Sports Arena GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 9,633

41. Orlando June 21, 1983 Jai Alai Fronton Hall GROSS : ? ATTENDANCE: 3,029

42. Tampa June 22, 1983 Curtis Hixon Convention Center GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 3,702

43. Miami June 23, 1983 Sunrise Music Theater GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 4,086

44. Jacksonville June 24, 1983 Civic Auditorium GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 3,200

45. Atlanta June 25, 1983 Civic Center GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 8,000

46. New Heaven June 27, 1983 Coliseum GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 5,695

47. Worchester June 28, 1983 The Centrum GROSS: $116,145 ATTENDANCE: 10,329

48. New York June 29, 1983 Pier 84 GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

2ND LEG OF WAR: 48 SHOWS
GROSS $1,750,000 ATTENDANCE 175,000

 

[U2FanPeter]

Do you have any Amusement Business Boxscore results that actually show 3 Tenors making that much money on the road. U2's September 1997 Boxscore for the Reggio Emilia Italy concert was the largest grossing single show in history at that time, with over 5 million gross from having 150,000 people in attendance.

city - date - venue - gross - capacity - ticket price range


Vancouver - Dec. 31st 1996 - B.C. Place - $5,544,000 - 41,072 -53,830 - $1,450/200/65/32

Toronto - Jan. 4th 1997 - Skydome - $8,000,051 - 50,000 - 50,500 - $1,200/550/73/19


All figures in USD

Over the span of 6 or so years The 3 Tenors played 30 concerts, 14 in North America, 8 in Europe and 8 international.

Figures as posted in Billboard magazine found on microfilm at the Vancouver Central Library. Both were all-time gross records in the weeks they was published. Figures for other 3Ts shows weren't made public. Such was also the case for all Sinatra Stadium shows 1979-1994(quite a few worldwide) and Streisands dizzying monetary figures(many $2,000 tickets) for her 2 Las Vegas NYE and NYD 93/94 appearance

Notice that the Vancouver 12/31/96 Gross is lower than Toronto because they had a ticket clearance sale in the weeks before the show.

<<Italy Popmart was the largest attended single show>>(The U2 Concert Chronology also repeats this claim)

Frank Sinatra performed a single artist bill(w/ orchestra)for 175,000 at the Stadio de Maracana in Rio de Janeiro on January 26th 1980. I cannot find any numbers, but it's a well known fact that the then world biggest stadium had 168,000 seats and several thousand more were on the pitch(FS was center stage) The entire show as televised and the helicopter views are all the proof needed.

u2fp

 

[U2FanPeter]

Tina Turner was listed in the Guiness Book of World records for having 182,000 people at the Stadio de Maracana in 1988.

Streisand was paid an "8 figure sum"($10mil+) for her 2 Vegas concerts. 13,000 tickets went onsale with the cheapest being $350.

u2fp