bon jovi bigger live band than u2?

[Axver]

why u2 never played in turkey please tell me mighty u2 fan.metallica played every country in the world and every city in america)))

So Metallica have played Uzbekistan, Rwanda, Nauru, Cote d'Ivore, and every other country on the face of the planet? Get over your Metallica obsession. U2 are much better known and have succeeded much more. U2 have no obligation to play anywhere and that doesn't prove their popularity.

 

[METFIELD]

Not a surprise at all, except that they came in at #27 instead of coming in higher. It is a surprise this is the first time that Metallica ever appeared on the list.

U2 has appeared on this list several times and came in at #4 on the overall celebrity ranking in 2001 and #1 in the ranking that measured the amount of money made.

what about this>with over 12 million concert tickets sold.metallica has been the 1 north american concert draw of the last 10 years

 

[STING2]

rolling stones,bon jovi,guns n roses sold stadiums in istanbul but u2 nobody know them))))

metallica sold out two stadium shows in turkey 93 and 99.this is record

U2 has not been to Turkey so one cannot definitively say that how well U2 would do there in terms of selling concert tickets. If you have album sales figures for Turkey instead of estimates based on people you know, it would be interesting to see them.

A lot of people in Israel and Greece know who U2 are and U2's sellout concert in Greece on the POPMART tour was one of the fastest sellouts in Greek history. Oh and Guess who has the #1 album in Greece this week? Did St. Anger make it to #1 in Greece?

I'm sure there are plenty of people in Turkey who know who U2 are. I'm sure many people in Turkey have access to international media and the internet and are well informed about the world and other people's culture and music.

As far as the Stadium shows by other bands in Turkey, I would be curious to know how much tickets cost for those shows?

 

[STING2]

what about this>with over 12 million concert tickets sold.metallica has been the 1 north american concert draw of the last 10 years

Metallica has not sold 12 million tickets in North America over the past 10 years.

Also, the band that is the #1 concert draw is not determined by some vague number over 10 years, it is based on how many tickets a band was able to sell in a single year! Many bands and artist for a variety of reasons may not tour for several years so it would be inaccurate to simply take a band that tours every year or every month and compare the sum total figure to another bands single tour in one year.

U2 can outsell Metallica in ANY CITY in North America easily! I have the exact boxscores from Amusement Business to prove that.

The North American 2001 Elevation tour was the 4th highest Grossing tour in North American history!

 

[METFIELD]

U2 has not been to Turkey so one cannot definitively say that how well U2 would do there in terms of selling concert tickets. If you have album sales figures for Turkey instead of estimates based on people you know, it would be interesting to see them.

A lot of people in Israel and Greece know who U2 are and U2's sellout concert in Greece on the POPMART tour was one of the fastest sellouts in Greek history. Oh and Guess who has the #1 album in Greece this week? Did St. Anger make it to #1 in Greece?

I'm sure there are plenty of people in Turkey who know who U2 are. I'm sure many people in Turkey have access to international media and the internet and are well informed about the world and other people's culture and music.

As far as the Stadium shows by other bands in Turkey, I would be curious to know how much tickets cost for those shows?

st anger is hard rock/metal.which metal bands sold millions of albums only metallica(maybe maiden).metallica is commercial band since 91.

here some facs for you>

st anger debut number one in 30 contries include turkey

in july 91 metallica sold 10 million albums wordwide
now in 2004 100 million

u2 is older than metallica and relased more albums.u2 16,metallica 10

metallica catalog sales destroy u2 so bad.they out sold u2 america.biggest maket in the world)))

metallica is best and biggest hard rock/metal band ever,who is u2

queen,pink floyd,rolling stones,beatles all more popular than u2

 

[METFIELD]

Metallica has not sold 12 million tickets in North America over the past 10 years.

Also, the band that is the #1 concert draw is not determined by some vague number over 10 years, it is based on how many tickets a band was able to sell in a single year! Many bands and artist for a variety of reasons may not tour for several years so it would be inaccurate to simply take a band that tours every year or every month and compare the sum total figure to another bands single tour in one year.

U2 can outsell Metallica in ANY CITY in North America easily! I have the exact boxscores from Amusement Business to prove that.

The North American 2001 Elevation tour was the 4th highest Grossing tour in North American history!

u2 gross alot because they toured often and ticket prices higher than metallica.in fact metallica sold 12 million tickets last 10 years us only

metallica played arenas,amphitheters,stadium non stop

if they want they only played huge markets sold out multiple stadiums.they played thounsands of arena show include every city

and summer sanitarium 2000 grossed 40 million only 20 shows
summer sanitarium 2003 grossed 48 million dollar only 19 shows

opening bands is not important,every one was there for metallica,some metalhead didnt went summer sanitarium show because poor-rock acts.metallica doesnt need opening act they sold out 120 arena shows in 91-91 without opening act

these numbers asre official)))

 

[Axver]

u2 gross alot because they toured often and ticket prices higher than metallica.in fact metallica sold 12 million tickets last 10 years us only

U2 tour often? In the last ten years, they have toured TWICE, Popmart in 1997-98 and Elevation in 2001. You have a bizarre definition of 'often'.

 

[METFIELD]

U2 tour often? In the last ten years, they have toured TWICE, Popmart in 1997-98 and Elevation in 2001. You have a bizarre definition of 'often'.

that is wat i told.if u2 toured alot they cant sellout stadiums.they are like madonna only played huge markets and groseed millions.

metallica played more countries and cities than u2.because they are the biggest and best live band in the world.they sold out arenas in small markets also.they are god in america

 

[Klink]

I respectfully disagree with those who dismiss Bon Jovi as a "piece of Sh!t". Any who have seen Bon Jovi live will know what an experience their concerts are. Their music is party hard rock and roll and unbelievable in a live setting. That's not to say U2 is not better, but I think it's important to be careful when making forceful qualitative assertions.

I personally find comparison to U2 is kindof silly, since Bon Jovi lives almost exclusively on music created between 1984-1994 (between Bon Jovi album and "Keep The Faith". They live largely on nostalgia tours. "Bounce" was nowhere near as significant as "Slippery When Wet", "New Jersey" or ATYCLB. U2 has remained relevant for almost 30 years. Bon Jovi is arguably less relevant today and 30 years ago, then they were 10 years ago. Currently, I have trouble believing they are comaparable.

In conclusion, depending on what one values, one can argue that Bon jovi is less important because they lack the longevity and relevance (although the latter is also debatable). Valid statistics may also be a factor here, although I don't know which are the most reliable, since we've seen so many different ones. And finally, although some of Bon Jovi's music seems to have timeless lyrical content, I argue that they are representative of a time and a place.

That said, whether you like their music or not, you're missing out if you've never seen them live.

 

[Axver]

if u2 toured alot they cant sellout stadiums.

You have no clue what you are talking about. The Popmart tour was wholly stadiums. They managed to play three stadium shows in Chicago, for instance. I bet Metallica couldn't do that, even with a heap of support. Mate, not as many people care about Metallica as they do about U2.

Get your facts straight. U2 are the biggest live band in the world. Metallica aren't even in the same league as bands such as U2, Rolling Stones, Bruce Springsteen, and Pink Floyd.

 

[METFIELD]

You have no clue what you are talking about. The Popmart tour was wholly stadiums. They managed to play three stadium shows in Chicago, for instance. I bet Metallica couldn't do that, even with a heap of support. Mate, not as many people care about Metallica as they do about U2.

Get your facts straight. U2 are the biggest live band in the world. Metallica aren't even in the same league as bands such as U2, Rolling Stones, Bruce Springsteen, and Pink Floyd.

metallica played 5x more shows than u2 worldwide.u2 success is
not important they are commercial pop-rock.

12 million concert tickets in us.last 10 years

metallica still play everywhere in the world

 

[STING2]

st anger is hard rock/metal.which metal bands sold millions of albums only metallica(maybe maiden).metallica is commercial band since 91.

here some facs for you>

st anger debut number one in 30 contries include turkey

in july 91 metallica sold 10 million albums wordwide
now in 2004 100 million

u2 is older than metallica and relased more albums.u2 16,metallica 10

metallica catalog sales destroy u2 so bad.they out sold u2 america.biggest maket in the world)))

metallica is best and biggest hard rock/metal band ever,who is u2

queen,pink floyd,rolling stones,beatles all more popular than u2

Metallica has been a comercial band ever since they signed with a record company back in 1983!

U2 released its first album in the United States in January 1981. Metallica released its first album in the United States in July 1983. U2 in comercial terms is 2 and half years older than Metallica, not much at all.

Metallica is slightly ahead of U2 in album sales in the United States, although that will probably change with the release of HTDAAB. The United States is one of the few countries in the world where Metallica is equal or sold more than U2 when it comes to albums. Metallica sales more than 55% of its albums in the United States. U2 on the other hand has a much broader fan base around the world and the United States only accounts for around 35% to 40% of U2 sales.

Metallica has not reached the 100 million mark in total Album sales although they are getting close and no doubt many report that they have since they are so close to the figure. U2 on the other hand have sold over 135 million albums.

But what really matters here is how much has your latest product sold.

St. Anger has sold 4.5 million albums worldwide.

ATYCLB has sold 12 million albums worldwide.

In the United States, ATYCLB has sold 4.2 million
St Anger has sold 2 million

In Europe, ATYCLB has sold over 4 million
St. Anger has sold over 1 million.

Being the best hard rock or Heavy Metal band is all well and dandy, but U2 is a far more diverse band that can play a much greater variety of music. Once again though, this is all opinion.

Queen may be more popular than U2 in some area's and regions, but overall Queen never achieved the album sales or concert ticket sales that U2 did in most markets.

Pink Floyd has a large healthy catolog of album sales, but ever since the late 1980s after U2 released the Joshua Tree, U2 have been the more popular band in terms of albums sales and concert ticket sales.

Rolling Stones have been the most popular live act since 1975. But ever since 1983, when it comes to selling new albums, the Rolling Stones have not done well, which is why overall they are no longer one of the most popular bands.

The Beatles have not been a band since 1970, but of course, they will always be the #1 band in terms of popularity. No band around today is even close to them when it comes to album sales. The Beatles do not have much of a touring history to compare to others, but then again, they were the first rock band to even play in a football stadium.

 

[FullonEdge2]

metallica played 5x more shows than u2 worldwide.u2 success is
not important they are commercial pop-rock.

12 million concert tickets in us.last 10 years

metallica still play everywhere in the world

1. Please use intelligible English

2. It sounds as though you are trying to bash U2 as hard as you can here. why?

3. Are you out of your mind? Metallica is not in the same league as super bands such as the Stones, Pink Floyd, U2, and whoever else is bigger than Metallica.

 

[STING2]

u2 gross alot because they toured often and ticket prices higher than metallica.in fact metallica sold 12 million tickets last 10 years us only

metallica played arenas,amphitheters,stadium non stop

if they want they only played huge markets sold out multiple stadiums.they played thounsands of arena show include every city

and summer sanitarium 2000 grossed 40 million only 20 shows
summer sanitarium 2003 grossed 48 million dollar only 19 shows

opening bands is not important,every one was there for metallica,some metalhead didnt went summer sanitarium show because poor-rock acts.metallica doesnt need opening act they sold out 120 arena shows in 91-91 without opening act

these numbers asre official)))

The reason that U2 have higher ticket prices than Metallica is becaue U2 tickets are in GREATER DEMAND than Metallica tickets. Demand by the general public to see certain artist in concert is what influences the price of tickets. Metallica have lower ticket prices because there is less demand to see Metallica in concert.

Unless you have Amusement Business Boxscore results to back up your claim that Metallica sold 12 million tickets in the United States over the past 10 years, I'd say the figure is false. Even if it is true its just a lump sum figure by a band that happened to tour a lot.

Name any city in North America, and U2 can outsell Metallica easily in a one to one match up.

OPENING BANDS that Metallica had on those small stadium tours was crucial and even LARS admitted it. Many of those Stadium shows despite having so many strong opening acts failed to sellout.

Oh by the way, many of the Arena shows on the 1991-1993 tour in North America were NOT SOLD OUT. I have the Boxscore results to prove it.

Take the biggest market in the United States, New York City. In 1998, Metallica put on a Stadium show at Giants Stadium which can hold 55,000 to 60,000 people for a concert. Metallica did not have any big opening acts for this show. Metallica sold 39,000 tickets to the show. If an artist/band cannot sellout a stadium in the largest market in the country, they cannot sellout any stadium in the country essentially. Stadium tours with 4 popular opening bands don't count. Without those opening acts Metallica would not have played those stadiums.

Amusement Business tracks the concert industry worldwide and you can read their weekly boxscore list at www.Billboard.com every week. Just like Billboard records the official results for album sales in the United States, Amusement Business records the official concert results worldwide and is the chief source for official concert statistics worldwide.

 

[STING2]

METFIELD,

Are you a U2 fan? What do you like most about U2? With this being the "peeling off those dollar bills" forum, what do you find most interesting or impressive about U2's success in the business over the past 25 years?

 

[METFIELD]

Metallica has been a comercial band ever since they signed with a record company back in 1983!

U2 released its first album in the United States in January 1981. Metallica released its first album in the United States in July 1983. U2 in comercial terms is 2 and half years older than Metallica, not much at all.

Metallica is slightly ahead of U2 in album sales in the United States, although that will probably change with the release of HTDAAB. The United States is one of the few countries in the world where Metallica is equal or sold more than U2 when it comes to albums. Metallica sales more than 55% of its albums in the United States. U2 on the other hand has a much broader fan base around the world and the United States only accounts for around 35% to 40% of U2 sales.

Metallica has not reached the 100 million mark in total Album sales although they are getting close and no doubt many report that they have since they are so close to the figure. U2 on the other hand have sold over 135 million albums.

But what really matters here is how much has your latest product sold.

St. Anger has sold 4.5 million albums worldwide.

ATYCLB has sold 12 million albums worldwide.

In the United States, ATYCLB has sold 4.2 million
St Anger has sold 2 million

In Europe, ATYCLB has sold over 4 million
St. Anger has sold over 1 million.

Being the best hard rock or Heavy Metal band is all well and dandy, but U2 is a far more diverse band that can play a much greater variety of music. Once again though, this is all opinion.

Queen may be more popular than U2 in some area's and regions, but overall Queen never achieved the album sales or concert ticket sales that U2 did in most markets.

Pink Floyd has a large healthy catolog of album sales, but ever since the late 1980s after U2 released the Joshua Tree, U2 have been the more popular band in terms of albums sales and concert ticket sales.

Rolling Stones have been the most popular live act since 1975. But ever since 1983, when it comes to selling new albums, the Rolling Stones have not done well, which is why overall they are no longer one of the most popular bands.

The Beatles have not been a band since 1970, but of course, they will always be the #1 band in terms of popularity. No band around today is even close to them when it comes to album sales. The Beatles do not have much of a touring history to compare to others, but then again, they were the first rock band to even play in a football stadium.

metallica is not commercial band before 91 maybe 96.they only made one promotinal clip.they played 7 minute thrash metal songs.no mtv.radio

metallica sold 95 million albums worldwide.so u2 110-120

metallica have 8 studio,1 cover,1live album.what about u2?

master of puppets sold 6 million in us without video clips.this is important

and metallica completely destroy u2 in soundscan era there is no competision.metallica sold 1.6 million copies in 2003(back catalog sales)

black album sold 1 million worldwide in 2003.fact

in europe metallica outsell u2 next 10 years.they will played huge shows every market.they are only 41 years old))))

 

[METFIELD]

in 97 heavy metal legend beat commercial rock acts

Harry Levins; Post-Dispatch Senior Writer
St. Louis Post-Dispatch
12-04-1997
Musical notes
Quick: Who has moved the most CDs in the '90s: Pearl Jam, Nirvana, U2, R.E.M. or Metallica? It's heavy metal's Metallica, with 22 million. . . . Soundgarden drummer Matt Cameron will join Smashing Pumpkins when the group next records; no word yet whether he'll permanently replace Matt Walker. . . . The death of Michael Hutchence caused no big uptick in sales of records by INXS. . . . Italian cops picked up singer Danbert Nobacon of Chumbawamba the other day. The official explanation: No passport. ...

 

[Axver]

Metfield, do Metallica have the fourth-highest grossing tour of all time? NO. U2 do. Popmart. The three highest grossing tours are all by the Rolling Stones.

Metallica are not on the same level as U2. End of story. You can believe what you want, but you are wrong.

 

[METFIELD]

Metfield, do Metallica have the fourth-highest grossing tour of all time? NO. U2 do. Popmart. The three highest grossing tours are all by the Rolling Stones.

Metallica are not on the same level as U2. End of story. You can believe what you want, but you are wrong.

you know nothing about metallica and rock world.metallica is the biggest rock band in the world since 91.go ask mtv,elektra,universal

every metallica album is certified multi-platinum in us

metallica sold more tickets and played more huge shows than u2.u2 have sold 12 million ticktes in nort america alone?no)))

metallica sold out stadium tour witouth new record,2000

they sold 3 million albums in us 2001,without new record

they are the biggest catalog seller in rock world every year losers.

black album,and justice for all,master of puppets,right the rightning is the biggest catalog sellers us and worldwide.

metallica is 7th selling act in american history.they are household name

in europe everbody know who was metallica.nothing else matters,unforgiven 1-2,one even my granmother knows this songs))))


this is for you u2 fanatic

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3238992.stm

 

[METFIELD]

most dedicated fans in the world

 

[Sleep Over Jack]

 

[Popmartijn]

this is for you u2 fanatic

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3238992.stm

An interesting article. What is especially interesting is the fact that U2 didn't release anything in 2003, yet they are the 4th most listened act in Europe. Yes, Metallica are 3rd and that is very good. They also had a new album out that year, so that contributed to the high ranking, no doubt.

C ya!

Marty

 

[Squire]

U2 has sold more albums than Metallica.
U2 can sold out any stadium in the world (even with higher prices). Metallica can't.
U2 has more fans around the world than Metallica.
Go learn a little bit of English.

PS: I like Metallica though

 

[FullonEdge2]

U2 has sold more albums than Metallica.
U2 can sold out any stadium in the world (even with higher prices). Metallica can't.
U2 has more fans around the world than Metallica.
Go learn a little bit of English.

PS: I like Metallica though

 

[Vox02]

in europe metallica outsell u2 next 10 years.they will played huge shows every market.they are only 41 years old))))

 

[Axver]

It's gotten to the point where it seems like Metfield is hiding behind his supposed lack of comprehension of English just so he can keep believing his lies.

U2 are much more popular than Metallica. I can't believe someone is even trying to argue that they aren't. If this were a 'U2 and the Rolling Stones' thread, then it would make sense. Right now, it makes no sense. U2 and Bon Jovi?! U2 and Metallica?! I think we should write this off as a joke thread in disguise.

 

[METFIELD]

It's gotten to the point where it seems like Metfield is hiding behind his supposed lack of comprehension of English just so he can keep believing his lies.

U2 are much more popular than Metallica. I can't believe someone is even trying to argue that they aren't. If this were a 'U2 and the Rolling Stones' thread, then it would make sense. Right now, it makes no sense. U2 and Bon Jovi?! U2 and Metallica?! I think we should write this off as a joke thread in disguise.

i am from turkey(muslim country).istanbul is the one of the biggest citys in the world.pupulation over 15 million

metallica played in istanbul inönü stadium 93 attendance 40,000
and 99 ali samiyen stadium 99 40,000

when metallica outsold u2 worldwide what would you do u2 sheep

 

[zoo tv mcg]

Metfield

What is your story morning glory. This started off as a reasonable discussion about Bon Jovi (c'mon - they are o.k, but not in the same league as U2 in terms of albums sales, publicity, ability to fill stadiums, longveity, critical acclaim etc.. The only area they have it over u2 is acting from Jon Bon Jovi's few movies he has done)

But your 2 sentences below maybe reveal your true feelings on u2???

metallica is best and biggest hard rock/metal band ever,who is u2

queen,pink floyd,rolling stones,beatles all more popular than u2

I am afraid metfield you are preaching against the converted here. I am sure the fans on the Metallica and Queen fan forums will enjoy your input

 

[ZeroDude]

U2 just happen to be better and more popular p.s. Metallica are alrite................

 

[METFIELD]

The reason that U2 have higher ticket prices than Metallica is becaue U2 tickets are in GREATER DEMAND than Metallica tickets. Demand by the general public to see certain artist in concert is what influences the price of tickets. Metallica have lower ticket prices because there is less demand to see Metallica in concert.

Unless you have Amusement Business Boxscore results to back up your claim that Metallica sold 12 million tickets in the United States over the past 10 years, I'd say the figure is false. Even if it is true its just a lump sum figure by a band that happened to tour a lot.

Name any city in North America, and U2 can outsell Metallica easily in a one to one match up.

OPENING BANDS that Metallica had on those small stadium tours was crucial and even LARS admitted it. Many of those Stadium shows despite having so many strong opening acts failed to sellout.

Oh by the way, many of the Arena shows on the 1991-1993 tour in North America were NOT SOLD OUT. I have the Boxscore results to prove it.

Take the biggest market in the United States, New York City. In 1998, Metallica put on a Stadium show at Giants Stadium which can hold 55,000 to 60,000 people for a concert. Metallica did not have any big opening acts for this show. Metallica sold 39,000 tickets to the show. If an artist/band cannot sellout a stadium in the largest market in the country, they cannot sellout any stadium in the country essentially. Stadium tours with 4 popular opening bands don't count. Without those opening acts Metallica would not have played those stadiums.

Amusement Business tracks the concert industry worldwide and you can read their weekly boxscore list at www.Billboard.com every week. Just like Billboard records the official results for album sales in the United States, Amusement Business records the official concert results worldwide and is the chief source for official concert statistics worldwide.

metalica dont need opening acts of their summer sanitarium shows.%90 of metallica and metal fans hate rap-rock bands
and boycott these shows

they sold stadiums in europe in 2004 without these bands and they are not popular here like america

metallica toured in 91,92,93,94,96,97,98,99,2000,2003,2004 if they toured like u2 only 2-3 small tour.they sold out multiple stadiums in america

in official metallica site says metallica sold 12 million tickets sold last 10 years(us)