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Cops Pursue Warrant in Woods Case
__________________Posted Nov 30th 2009 12:45AM by TMZ Staff Sources tell TMZ the Florida Highway Patrol is now focusing on obtaining a search warrant -- allowing them to seize medical records from the hospital that treated Tiger Woods -- in an attempt to determine if the wounds Woods sustained are consistent with a car accident or domestic violence. We're told authorities believe they can show probable cause a crime was committed, a necessary step in obtaining a warrant. One big piece of evidence showing probable cause ... sources tell us Tiger's wife, Elin Nordegren told FHP troopers she went looking for Tiger in a golf cart, came upon the accident and then used a golf club to break the window to gain entry. That's a very different story from what she first told Windemere cops shortly after the accident -- she never mentioned a golf cart. Nordegren told Windemere police she had walked out of her house, saw the crash, went back inside to get a golf club and returned to the vehicle. Read more: Cops Pursue Warrant in Woods Case | TMZ.com |
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Hey, I fully believe she was acting crazy. I realize you didn't mean that she hit him with the club, I was just kiddin there.
__________________But, I think he's not talking because he cares about her and won't do anything / provide any information that would add to any case they are already building against her. He doesn't want social services taking a look at whether or not she's a fit mother, he doesn't want her facing charges that she hit him. He likely knows her better than anyone, thinks she just had a blow up and wants to try and salvage his marriage with as little outside interference as possible. I do realize that the police can pursue on the probable cause even if he doesn't file a complaint, but that will only go so far as getting her charged. They'll still need him in court, and if he's smart he won't play along. And I don't really see anything wrong with that, personally. ![]()
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Doctors that examined Tiger Woods have gone on record, saying that his wife "sliced".
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I agree with Gvox. Why is this even a police matter? Because he's famous? If it were you or me the cops probably wouldn't even be called and it certainly wouldn't be a news story. So whatever caused the wreck (fight with wife, etc.) it was contained to his own property and no other people or vehicles were involved so what is there to answer to the police for? If the fire hydrant is damaged he can surely afford to fix it. This is, really, no one else's business but his and his wife's.
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Well a bit of perspective..someone called 911, so the police show up. If I'm not mistaken also, the hydrant was on public property and the tree on someone else's. So the accident in and of itself is a police matter, and he'll likely face a wreckless driving charge, which will get withheld because he's always driven safely before (ie always yelled "fore"
![]() The real problem is the police are behaving so irresponsibly in this. 911 tapes do not get released for minor traffic incidents and they acknowledged this, but said that they released it due to media pressure for information. In other words, the media concocted a story about it all and now the police are being pressured to investigate that angle. Because really, if you or I were laying on the pavement with our wife over us rendering first aid after crashing into a tree, the last thing any sane cop would think is that she had just beaten you up, even if she was a bit inconsistent in the exact retelling of what happened. He'd think you got up close and personal with the steering wheel/dash. Mind you, we'd probably have to blow into a tube, also ![]()
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he wasn't wearing shoes while driving and that is not only illegal but a threat to the public safety.
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![]() I drive standard and I find is so much easier with shoes off. Theres so much more feeling when the clutch starts to engage. Why is it illegal? edit: not that i do it often, but if I'm wearing sandals, I figure its a lot safer to be barefoot |
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yeah, same here. if i ever got a ticket for that, i'd whack the police officers in the head with my flip flop.
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I've driven barefoot before for short distances, but I prefer not to because it just feels super weird, and like I need to be several inches closer.
I'm short enough as it is, and have small feet - I need the extra surface area of my shoe to push the gas pedal! |
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If, given the same facts as known to them, the police would investigate any other citizen for the same possibilities then Tiger Woods should be held to the same standard. If they would investigate possible domestic assault for the average citizen then they'd have to for him as well. It's the conflicting stories she allegedly told the EMT's and the highway patrol or whoever else was involved-if that's the case then conflicting stories create doubts and suspicions among law enforcement. If they don't do it then they will be accused of favoritism and I'm sure they know that. As much as some people might want it to be domestic assault, and possible domestic assault, isn't a private matter.
With all the alleged information out there who knows what the real story is. That supposed friend of his who claimed that Tiger told him his wife scratched his face in an argument over the alleged affair and that he had to go to Zales to get a Kobe special-well to me that's not believable because I can't imagine Tiger Woods buys his wife jewelry at Zales. Not to mention the fact that why would this alleged friend make this public? Unless he knew that Tiger told several people the same thing, it would be obvious who told TMZ. Maybe they paid him money and he couldn't resist. It's rather obvious that Tiger Woods has a very tightly controlled public image and a vested interest in maintaining that. The woman who allegedly had an affair with him says it's not true. So who knows. To me it sure appears that he and his wife had some sort of argument and he left in a hurry . Unless you're sleepwalking and sleepdriving you're going to wear your shoes, even at that time of night and why are you driving away at that time of night?. Whatever happened during that or afterwards to cause that accident and his injuries, only they know obviously. |
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I think that was my favorite part of the story. Tiger Woods shops at Zales!
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Now THAT'S what she should really be pissed about
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So far, his sponsors have stood behind him, which means his strategy is working from a financial perspective. This story will die down in a few weeks anyway, and Tiger doesn't have any public appearances planned for several weeks.
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I think "a threat to public safety" is way overdoing it now. Private drive. Possibly just onto the community road...gated community, 2:30 am Orlando? Pretty low chance of hitting someone.
The bottom line is, he owes no-one any sort of explanation whatsoever about why he was leaving his house at 2:30 am. It's none of anyone's concern whether he and his wife just argued, whether they just had wild sex, whether she forgot to buy milk for the cereal, whether or not she needed tampons, whether he forgot to get bait for his morning fishing expedition, whether he wanted to go rent some porn, whatever! none of it! Is it somehow less suspicious if you leave your house at 11? 12? He owes an explanation for why he hit something, period. Explanation: I don't know what happened, I guess I over-steered. Or looked down at my phone. Or was zipping my fly. Or whatever. Anyways, he's doing what any real man would: taking his bitch-slap (doubtful if there even was one) and not calling it "domestic abuse". That kindof makes a mockery of real victims of domestic violence. Worst case scenario she freaked because he was driving away from her hissy fit and took the club to the back window as he left. BIG DEAL. Save the charges for the asshole who beats his wife senseless in a fit of drunken rage, THAT's domestic assault.
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It is overdoing, I'm simply saying from a legal standpoint it's probably why the police are interested.
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Ah ok, I get you. Well it's a rather silly waste of taxpayer resources anyways. They can get all the warrants they want, lay all the charges they want, but if he refuses to talk and there are no eyewitnesses that she struck him, it's dead before it even gets to trial.
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I wish cops would investigate a domestic violence threat for an average person this thoroughly.
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Hey, remember when Britney trashed the guys' car with the umbrella? She had to pay for it but no cops harassed her for an 'investigation' or 'explaination' did they? She's a drunken fool, she pays for the car, end of story, right? |
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My local news station just had a bit about Tiger. He did not attend his charity golf tournament and continues to refuse to tell anyone what happened. News casters made a good point. The longer he waits to say anything the more speculation that will evolve. Yes, his personal business is his own business, but when you're a public figure and an 'icon' like that the public believes it has a right to some sort of explanation.
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