The Official Cricket '07/'08 thread!! - Page 41

cobl04 · 08-09-2009, 08:11 AM

I just thought it was funny the next best two choices were a retired Zimbabwean and a retired commentator.

Anyway, match is over, England's best batsmen have been their bowlers, how the fuck were we ever in doubt.

1stepcloser · 08-09-2009, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by intedomine

the inrceasing national apathy towards the sport.

any evidence for this?

intedomine · 08-09-2009, 09:38 PM

Just for the nation that owns cricket, the fact that they've never seen fit to increase the capacity of their charming little grounds beyond 30,000 suggests the willingness of the general public to watch international cricket just doesn't seem to be there. Quite staggering for a nation of 50,000,000. And a lot of the folk in the crowd at these current Ashes test matches look like old geezers like Parkinson.

And while we've wrecked some of our grounds by turning them into concrete donuts (Gabba, MCG), it's usually been done in the name of increasing the capacity of our cricket stadiums. MCG holds 100,000, Sydney and Brisbane hover around 40,000. Tiny cities like Adelaide and Perth still have 25,000 seater stadiums. We've only got a population of 21 MIL.

And I've never met a young Pom who appears all that enthused by cricket, seems to be the older guys.

And why are Ingerland's players so crap? Is the government funding cricket development programs sufficiently enough? Would they be justified in doing so, or is the demand for England to do well in cricket (as opposed to Football and Rugby) just not there?

I'm not tryin' to get all "haha, look at you Poms", (quite frankly, I couldn't care who wins this series with no Hodge playing, and people like Watson, Clarke, Haddin and Clark playing for Australia, of whom I just don't like) I'm just stating my observations about cricket in England.

cobl04 · 08-10-2009, 12:25 AM

Watson shouldn't be there, Clarke we know you've unjustly got it in for

, Haddin is the only option and Clark averages 22 with the ball

cobl04 · 08-10-2009, 04:51 AM

some tool interviewing ricky after the game:

"so on to lords, will you be going for the win or the draw?"

1stepcloser · 08-10-2009, 08:16 AM

We may have invented cricket but much like the rest of Europe, South America and most of Africa, football just dwarfs every other sport over here. So even people who don't care too much for football will still take a passing interest like watching premiership highlights on a saturday (my dad does this) and watching world cup matches. It's impossible to avoid really.

Sports like cricket and rugby are much more divisive. you either like them or you don't. they're also more middle class sports so generally they don't appeal much to poor kids growing up on council estates across the country. This lack of exposure means that if they don't start playing at a young age it's hard for them to ever properly develop.

Maybe the funding hasn't been there for young people to play cricket over here, i don't know. Then again we aren't particularly good at any sports, despite how much money is invested in them. I suppose tennis would be the most obvious example of not enough funding going into a sport in england. But cricket will always have a solid fan base here. Also people have jobs to go to during test matches on weekdays and during this recession some people just don't fancy paying £75 for a ticket when it could be spent on more important things.

The 20/20 World Cup was a massive success here with full houses at each game and maybe that's just indicative of where cricket is going now. I personally believe the 50 over game will be dead within a few years.

So I don't think there is an increasing apathy towards cricket here (regardless of how crap our team is). I would say though that the goverment could do with spending more money on cricket development when looking at our middle order!

intedomine · 08-10-2009, 08:50 AM

Ah yes, forgot about pricing. £75 a ticket is rather nasty. Adults can watch a day of test cricket in Melbourne for $25 which is £12.6 according to a currency converter thing I did, which is a stark contrast.

50/50 is as good as dead. A shame, because it still required cricketing skill. 20/20 is inadequate in distinguishing who the better cricketers in the world are. So much chance involved. By all means have it as a sport, but it's just not "cricket".

MadForIt · 08-10-2009, 12:12 PM

AND SKY have taken cricket away from the masses
the ECB claimed they money from SKY was for future development of the game

what development?
I cant see any especially with Ramprakash back in the running

Vlad n U 2 · 08-10-2009, 06:00 PM

Yep, it's just sad that England's tail enders are much better batsmen than the top order itself. Haha.

cobl04 · 08-10-2009, 06:47 PM

you all see this? langer's dossier? he makes some very valid points, my favourite of which is "anderson is a bit of a pussy"

In full: Justin Langer's dossier - Telegraph

intedomine · 08-10-2009, 11:34 PM

If yer gonna bring back GrampsCanCrash, might as well bring back John Crawley as well. What an imposing middle order they will provide!

They brought back UDAL after a 10 year absence from tests a few years back for a series against Pakistan I think.

Vlad n U 2 · 08-11-2009, 12:07 AM

I've heard rumours that Ian Botham will make a comeback ... So far, it's a confirmed rumour.

I really think we need to make an '09/'10 cricket thread, this one is pretty outdated.

cobl04 · 08-11-2009, 01:24 AM

maybe ray illingworth to hold up an end, inte?

we may as well hold out for another 188 posts. which will go like that if england somehow win at the oval, the only ground in their country at which they have a decent ashes record.

intedomine · 08-11-2009, 01:50 AM

Haha, Illingworth, there's a blast from the past. Least he's better than Horritz

cobl04 · 08-11-2009, 01:56 AM

he actually was a "defensive" bowler too.

MadForIt · 08-11-2009, 12:54 PM

BREAKING NEWS

MAD FOR IT has been called up into the 15 man England squad

With an impressive average of 6.76 this summer in 24 innings the England selectors claimed that he is next in line*

*after the South African born players who take priority

cobl04 · 08-11-2009, 07:38 PM

Better than my average. And I'm not a bowler either.

Thank god for English cricket. These stories about replacements and the like are very entertaining. Trescothick's name is now being thrown about, despite the fact the last time he was meant to play Australia he crawled up into the foetal postion. But he's averaging 78 and loves the Oval apparently. Ramacarcrash is avergaing 100, but that's in second division county cricket. But I read that if he does come back, it's partly due to his time on Strictly Dancing...

these stories are great!

Also, I read today that Lily Allen posted on her twitter that she's more into Onions (the bowler, not the weird fucking vegetable) than Flintoss now and she's heard that he "goes all night". His response? "She obviously has never seen me in real life."

You don't get this with one-dayers and Twenty20s.

Vlad n U 2 · 08-12-2009, 05:23 AM

Lily Allen.

Words cannot describe how much I despise that disgrace of a person.

cobl04 · 08-12-2009, 06:01 AM

why? she makes good tunes for one, and, she's hot.

it's a double threat!

intedomine · 08-12-2009, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobl04

:she's heard that he "goes all night". His response? "She obviously has never seen me in real life."

.

Haha, what a fool Onionman is, why on earth would you say something so stupid when LiLy wants ya?

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08-09-2009, 09:38 PM	#803
intedomine Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Melbourne Posts: 8,105 Local Time: 11:26 PM	Just for the nation that owns cricket, the fact that they've never seen fit to increase the capacity of their charming little grounds beyond 30,000 suggests the willingness of the general public to watch international cricket just doesn't seem to be there. Quite staggering for a nation of 50,000,000. And a lot of the folk in the crowd at these current Ashes test matches look like old geezers like Parkinson. And while we've wrecked some of our grounds by turning them into concrete donuts (Gabba, MCG), it's usually been done in the name of increasing the capacity of our cricket stadiums. MCG holds 100,000, Sydney and Brisbane hover around 40,000. Tiny cities like Adelaide and Perth still have 25,000 seater stadiums. We've only got a population of 21 MIL. And I've never met a young Pom who appears all that enthused by cricket, seems to be the older guys. And why are Ingerland's players so crap? Is the government funding cricket development programs sufficiently enough? Would they be justified in doing so, or is the demand for England to do well in cricket (as opposed to Football and Rugby) just not there? I'm not tryin' to get all "haha, look at you Poms", (quite frankly, I couldn't care who wins this series with no Hodge playing, and people like Watson, Clarke, Haddin and Clark playing for Australia, of whom I just don't like) I'm just stating my observations about cricket in England.

08-10-2009, 12:25 AM	#804
cobl04 45:33 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: East Point to Shaolin Posts: 58,504 Local Time: 11:26 PM	Watson shouldn't be there, Clarke we know you've unjustly got it in for , Haddin is the only option and Clark averages 22 with the ball

08-10-2009, 04:51 AM	#805
cobl04 45:33 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: East Point to Shaolin Posts: 58,504 Local Time: 11:26 PM	some tool interviewing ricky after the game: "so on to lords, will you be going for the win or the draw?"

08-10-2009, 08:16 AM	#806
1stepcloser Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 3,764 Local Time: 02:26 PM	We may have invented cricket but much like the rest of Europe, South America and most of Africa, football just dwarfs every other sport over here. So even people who don't care too much for football will still take a passing interest like watching premiership highlights on a saturday (my dad does this) and watching world cup matches. It's impossible to avoid really. Sports like cricket and rugby are much more divisive. you either like them or you don't. they're also more middle class sports so generally they don't appeal much to poor kids growing up on council estates across the country. This lack of exposure means that if they don't start playing at a young age it's hard for them to ever properly develop. Maybe the funding hasn't been there for young people to play cricket over here, i don't know. Then again we aren't particularly good at any sports, despite how much money is invested in them. I suppose tennis would be the most obvious example of not enough funding going into a sport in england. But cricket will always have a solid fan base here. Also people have jobs to go to during test matches on weekdays and during this recession some people just don't fancy paying £75 for a ticket when it could be spent on more important things. The 20/20 World Cup was a massive success here with full houses at each game and maybe that's just indicative of where cricket is going now. I personally believe the 50 over game will be dead within a few years. So I don't think there is an increasing apathy towards cricket here (regardless of how crap our team is). I would say though that the goverment could do with spending more money on cricket development when looking at our middle order!

08-10-2009, 08:50 AM	#807
intedomine Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Melbourne Posts: 8,105 Local Time: 11:26 PM	Ah yes, forgot about pricing. £75 a ticket is rather nasty. Adults can watch a day of test cricket in Melbourne for $25 which is £12.6 according to a currency converter thing I did, which is a stark contrast. 50/50 is as good as dead. A shame, because it still required cricketing skill. 20/20 is inadequate in distinguishing who the better cricketers in the world are. So much chance involved. By all means have it as a sport, but it's just not "cricket".

08-10-2009, 12:12 PM	#808
MadForIt Refugee Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,248 Local Time: 01:26 AM	AND SKY have taken cricket away from the masses the ECB claimed they money from SKY was for future development of the game what development? I cant see any especially with Ramprakash back in the running

08-10-2009, 06:00 PM	#809
Vlad n U 2 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 28,382 Local Time: 10:56 PM	Yep, it's just sad that England's tail enders are much better batsmen than the top order itself. Haha.

08-10-2009, 06:47 PM	#810
cobl04 45:33 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: East Point to Shaolin Posts: 58,504 Local Time: 11:26 PM	you all see this? langer's dossier? he makes some very valid points, my favourite of which is "anderson is a bit of a pussy" In full: Justin Langer's dossier - Telegraph

08-10-2009, 11:34 PM	#811
intedomine Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Melbourne Posts: 8,105 Local Time: 11:26 PM	If yer gonna bring back GrampsCanCrash, might as well bring back John Crawley as well. What an imposing middle order they will provide! They brought back UDAL after a 10 year absence from tests a few years back for a series against Pakistan I think.

08-11-2009, 12:07 AM	#812
Vlad n U 2 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 28,382 Local Time: 10:56 PM	I've heard rumours that Ian Botham will make a comeback ... So far, it's a confirmed rumour. I really think we need to make an '09/'10 cricket thread, this one is pretty outdated.

08-11-2009, 01:24 AM	#813
cobl04 45:33 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: East Point to Shaolin Posts: 58,504 Local Time: 11:26 PM	maybe ray illingworth to hold up an end, inte? we may as well hold out for another 188 posts. which will go like that if england somehow win at the oval, the only ground in their country at which they have a decent ashes record.

08-11-2009, 01:50 AM	#814
intedomine Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Melbourne Posts: 8,105 Local Time: 11:26 PM	Haha, Illingworth, there's a blast from the past. Least he's better than Horritz

08-11-2009, 01:56 AM	#815
cobl04 45:33 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: East Point to Shaolin Posts: 58,504 Local Time: 11:26 PM	he actually was a "defensive" bowler too.

08-11-2009, 12:54 PM	#816
MadForIt Refugee Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,248 Local Time: 01:26 AM	BREAKING NEWS MAD FOR IT has been called up into the 15 man England squad With an impressive average of 6.76 this summer in 24 innings the England selectors claimed that he is next in line* *after the South African born players who take priority

08-11-2009, 07:38 PM	#817
cobl04 45:33 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: East Point to Shaolin Posts: 58,504 Local Time: 11:26 PM	Better than my average. And I'm not a bowler either. Thank god for English cricket. These stories about replacements and the like are very entertaining. Trescothick's name is now being thrown about, despite the fact the last time he was meant to play Australia he crawled up into the foetal postion. But he's averaging 78 and loves the Oval apparently. Ramacarcrash is avergaing 100, but that's in second division county cricket. But I read that if he does come back, it's partly due to his time on Strictly Dancing... these stories are great! Also, I read today that Lily Allen posted on her twitter that she's more into Onions (the bowler, not the weird fucking vegetable) than Flintoss now and she's heard that he "goes all night". His response? "She obviously has never seen me in real life." You don't get this with one-dayers and Twenty20s.

08-12-2009, 05:23 AM	#818
Vlad n U 2 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 28,382 Local Time: 10:56 PM	Lily Allen. Words cannot describe how much I despise that disgrace of a person.

08-12-2009, 06:01 AM	#819
cobl04 45:33 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: East Point to Shaolin Posts: 58,504 Local Time: 11:26 PM	why? she makes good tunes for one, and, she's hot. it's a double threat!