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Old 03-22-2009, 03:52 AM   #441
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We're in a really good situation at Wyndhamvale Cricket Club...

Our top side, the A Turf, is up against Grand United in the grand final. Now GU have won the past seven flags in a row, but finally there is a side good enough to match them, us.

We made 284, which was a solid score, one bloke falling four runs short of his ton. GU were 1/75 but eventually we rolled them for 180, one bloke getting five-for.

We're 2/38 at stumps on day two, effectively 2/142.

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LOL at WINDIES
they brought their players in for bad light and lost on Duckworth Lewis as they could not count

ENg won by 1 run

Sachin and Co battered NZ

IPL has been moved OUT of INDIA - breaking news on BBC!

Its a shame
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1 run. What a margin.
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Old 03-24-2009, 05:29 PM   #444
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Bollinger annoys me...

Siddle is a legend.
The shock and horror that I feel that a NSW player annoys you!!! I can just see your face when Hughes was picked over Rogers... oh well, seems to have turned out ok!

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Siddle is a gun though.

Hussey has got to pick up his game. He is one of the senior bats and he plays stupid shots to get out, and isn't scoring runs. Team I would play the Ashes with, note I am dropping Hussey because he isn't performing. I would take Klinger and Rogers, and I will show contingencies for both playing.

1. Hughes
2. Katich (or Rogers)
3. Ponting
4. Klinger (or Katich if Rogers plays)
5. Clarke
6. North
7. Haddin
8. Johnson
9. Lee
10. Siddle
11. Clark

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No spinner is good enough to play as a specialist in Aus atm (I have always said McGain wasn't a good option for 2 reasons: 1, he is too old to play for more than a year or 2, 2, he doesn't turn the ball enough or have the variety to be a solid Test bowler). I will preach again that Casson was the man until they fucked him over. I really hope he comes good next season, becuase we need a decent spinner, and he is a better bat than Johnson.

Between Katich (who thoroughly outbowled McGain in the series), Clarke (test 6/9) and North (probably the best of the 3) you have argueably 3 of the top 10 or 15 spinners in Aus already in the team. It is a waste of a spot to pick a specialist atm.

This frees up room for 4 quicks, as it would be hard to leave Lee and Clark out on their records, Johnson is an auto pick, and Siddle should be an auto-pick. Hilfenhaus didn't do enough to book a place in that side.

Picking Klinger or Rogers for me is a win-win. It is the same principle that saw hughes picked: they are both massive run accumulators. Doesn't matter how it looks, the runs on the board are what counts. I would probably pick Klinger, simply for the sake of not disrupting the opening pair.

So my squad would be those 12, plus Bollinger and Hilfenhaus, Hussey, and a very biased nod for Casson, as he is quality and has the potential to run through teams in England. They don't play wristies well.

The Casson nay-sayers first have to answer me one question... Who is a better spinner in Australia? He was NSW number 1 over Hauritz until the selectors forced them to play hauritz to justify picking him in the Test team. He also took some big wickets at the end of the Sheffield Shield season, and scored a couple of 50's this year to go with his 4 last year.

To further prove my point, current Aussie spinners:

Aaron Heal - No spinner from WA has enough exposure to spinning wickets

Dan Cullen - Struggles for a game in the SA 2nd XI

Cullen Bailey - See Dan Cullen

Daniel Doran - Not up to standard, avg of 50+

McGain - Too old, proven ineffectual at Test level

Jon Holland - Best young prospect around, but too green

Nathan Hauritz - Good defensive bowler, not a wicket-taker

Jason Krezja - Has the ability to take wickets on favourable pitches. Has the ability to go for 400 runs in an inning too. Definately not the guy you want in the team unless the bakll is turning square with variable bounce

Beau Casson - Flight, variety, and in his only Test took 3 big wickets. Got similar treatment to Krezja and McGain in his first test, but bounced back to take 3/80
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i can't fucking wait for this series against india to finish.

how embarrassing.
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i can't fucking wait for this series against india to finish.

how embarrassing.
They are a class side een, I wouldn't worry bout it.

Tendulkar is still a master, the guy is insane.
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They are a class side een, I wouldn't worry bout it.

Tendulkar is still a master, the guy is insane.
oh, that's true. but still, looking this inept is embarrassing.
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First India series win since 1968 in Nz on the cards here

Sachin is the man - but Dhoni is a top captain

Zaheer is world class

and Harbhajan actually put some effort in
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we're looking the goods this time around.

we'll still lose, but we shouldn't get humiliated.
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You sure Cullen's still a better bat than Johnson there dan?
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Jesse Ryder is a legend!
I like him as he doesnt look like a cricket player - he is just fat

McCullum is a good player too

If NZ get Drav or Sachin out quickly then i think its game over - 3 days to go yet!
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Sachin Tendulkar is such a legend.

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You sure Cullen's still a better bat than Johnson there dan?
Casson? Yeah. Johnson can bash his way to quick runs, and his 96 and 123 were gold in SA, but he is a bowler with a fantastic eye, and a clean stroke. More often than not he scores nothing because he doesn't settle in like a batsman should.

He suits number 8, because if someone is batting well, and he stays in, he can be devastating. He can also come off shockingly.

Casson Is actually a batter. He looks like a batter. He opens for his Sydney Grade side, and has scored about 6 hundreds in the last 2 or 3 years. Vic's should know how he bats from the shield final of 07-08. NSW have used him as a number 6 before.

I think he is technically a better bat, and is capable of scoring runs more consistantly, but not capable of the devastation Johnson is.

Either way, with the lack of talent out there, he has got to be a roughie for a tour to England. (It would be an outrage if McGain goes, (0-149 in your first test, as opposed to 3-86 from Casson). Anyone wanting to use the "Shane Warne' Defence saying he had a shocker first up needs to realise that McGain is nearly 37
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Nz lost to India 1-0 in the test series

should have been 2-0 but it rained in Wellington
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Ryder and Taylor are both guns. You really need them to not get injured though.

Ryder, in particular.
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Ryder and Taylor are both guns. You really need them to not get injured though.

Ryder, in particular.
when are the sheep-shaggers guna realise that they have no decent openers, and Vettori needs to man up and do it.

No-one can claim its too much workload, blah blah. He is a great captain, and a great bowler. He has to bat anyway, and Sobers did all three.

I would be picking an NZ team that looks something like this.

Vettori
Guptil, macIntosh, whoever
Flynn
Taylor
Ryder
How (test record is garbage, but he has SO much talent)
McCullum
Franklin
O'Brien
Patel
Martin

It bats down to 8, and has 5 top bowlers. Vettori averages 30 (better than other options they have up there), puts pressure on the other opener to perform for his spot. Middle order is very solid. Taylor and Ryder speak for themselves, and Flynn can be as good as either on his day. How as I said above has plenty of potential, and would benefit from a drop down the order to take some pressure off. McCullum is probably the 4th best keeper-bat in the world (no shame behind Sangakarra, Haddin and Dhoni). Franklin, while he has a great first class record, probably isn't a 6 as they have been playing him. Will score more test 50's than any other number 8 (Johnson excluded).

Bowling wise, they have enough seam-up firepower with Martin, O'Brien, Franklin with some support from Ryder. Vettori, Patel and support from How would be one of the best spin attacks around (Murali and Mendis would form the only attack better).

So, while it may not be ideal to have Vettori opening, it is about the best option for them atm. Frees up a slot for another batsman, while allowing them 5 frontline bowlers.
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the last thing we need is vettori opening. he's much more suited lower down the order. the most obvious reason for this is that anyone opening for new zealand will suck. if bradman opened for us he'd be shit.
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the last thing we need is vettori opening. he's much more suited lower down the order. the most obvious reason for this is that anyone opening for new zealand will suck. if bradman opened for us he'd be shit.
NZ opening problems is a lack of talent, not a mystical 'you will fail as it comes with the job' reason.

Vettori is the kind of class act that has never suffered with increased responsibility. He is one of the best bowling captains ever in my opinion. He is good for 30-odd every time he bats, and can score test hundreds. I see more hundreds coming from him than Guptil, MacIntosh, Redmond etc.

The problem with the side at the moment isn't so much a lack of playing options, or just not being good enough, they need to find a balance that maximises the effect of both bat and ball. While Vettori may not be the best opener in NZ at the moment, he is the best option for the national side to find the balance and varity they need to be competitive
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NZ opening problems is a lack of talent, not a mystical 'you will fail as it comes with the job' reason.

Vettori is the kind of class act that has never suffered with increased responsibility. He is one of the best bowling captains ever in my opinion. He is good for 30-odd every time he bats, and can score test hundreds. I see more hundreds coming from him than Guptil, MacIntosh, Redmond etc.

The problem with the side at the moment isn't so much a lack of playing options, or just not being good enough, they need to find a balance that maximises the effect of both bat and ball. While Vettori may not be the best opener in NZ at the moment, he is the best option for the national side to find the balance and varity they need to be competitive
oh, you're right...i just ran out of reasons for why he'd be a bad opener. he opened in 2003ish at the world cup, and we didn't do too badly there.

what shits me off is that we should be good now, there's a lot of class around. but we can never seem to have a class batting lineup at the same time as a class bowling lineup.

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