Penn State Child Molestation Scandal...continuing discussion

[bono_212]

Dude on the left is about to lose it for some reason.

[LemonMelon]

Economics? Shit, these guys couldn't work out home economics.

[PhilsFan]

There are 44,000 students at this campus. That riot was a small percentage of that, it must be noted. I'm not the only sane one. Most are.

[lazarus]

Hey guys, some party tonight, huh?

The Penn State board of trustees just asked me if they could use my likeness on the helmets next year to replace the Nittany Lion profile!

[PhilsFan]

Oh, fuck off.

[GirlsAloudFan]

How had I not seen this until now?



The title of this fucking scumbag's autobiography was Touched? Really?

And reports are saying that this is going to get even uglier. Wow:

@MarkMaddenX: Don't believe this can get worse? Give it 72 hrs. People really digging into Second Mile. Even more shocking revelation is ahead. Yikes.

[PhilsFan]

It's going to get way uglier.

[deep]

Sandusky is married and has six adopted children. He also took in foster children.

I wonder what his wife has to say about any of this.

[cobl04]

Crazy shit! And here I was thinking we take sport too seriously here!

[GirlsAloudFan]

Originally Posted by cobl04

Crazy shit! And here I was thinking we take sport too seriously here!

This really has nothing to do with sport.

[PhilsFan]

I have class in seven hours in a building right next to where some of the riots were. I'm not sure if that area is going to be fixed up by that time.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

[Hewson]

Originally Posted by deep

Sandusky is married and has six adopted children. He also took in foster children.

I wonder what his wife has to say about any of this.

Well seeing as his wife called one of the victims out of the blue after several years just before he was supposed to testify to the grand jury, one can only assume she has been in some way involved in covering it up for some time as well.

[iron yuppie]

Originally Posted by GirlsAloudFan

This really has nothing to do with sport.

I'm going to have to disagree and say that this has everything to do with sport - specifically the ridiculous degree of importance that we as a society place upon it. Had these allegations been leveled at even the most prominent professor on campus, that individual would have been disciplined immediately; because the allegations involved the precious football program, however, all channels of the school were content to ignore the problem for over a decade. Universities with major sports programs consistently bow to the interests of their players, coaches, and boosters, which only serves to reinforce the attitude of entitlement and sense of being above the law that are already so heavily pronounced among those groups.

As these riots show, to me at least, sports fanaticism is able completely and utterly to destroy any semblance of logic, empathy, and, often, basic human decency. We as a culture need seriously to reevaluate the reverence with which we hold college and pro sports. This whole affair, but especially the pro-Paterno riots last night, is among the most reprehensible things that I have ever witnessed.

[BoMac]

As if we didn't know he was an idiot before:

Ashton Kutcher Fumbles Big Time Over "No Class" Pro-Joe Paterno Tweet, Temporarily Quits Twitter - E! Online

[lazarus]

Originally Posted by cobl04

Crazy shit! And here I was thinking we take sport too seriously here!

Originally Posted by GirlsAloudFan

This really has nothing to do with sport.

Some people say you shouldn't mix music and politics, or sport and politics...

...I think that's kind of bullshit.

[PhilsFan]

Originally Posted by iron yuppie

I'm going to have to disagree and say that this has everything to do with sport - specifically the ridiculous degree of importance that we as a society place upon it. Had these allegations been leveled at even the most prominent professor on campus, that individual would have been disciplined immediately; because the allegations involved the precious football program, however, all channels of the school were content to ignore the problem for over a decade. Universities with major sports programs consistently bow to the interests of their players, coaches, and boosters, which only serves to reinforce the attitude of entitlement and sense of being above the law that are already so heavily pronounced among those groups.

As these riots show, to me at least, sports fanaticism is able completely and utterly to destroy any semblance of logic, empathy, and, often, basic human decency. We as a culture need seriously to reevaluate the reverence with which we hold college and pro sports. This whole affair, but especially the pro-Paterno riots last night, is among the most reprehensible things that I have ever witnessed.

This is not about sport. This is about a community, my community, that has convinced itself that it's better than every other community. It's a microcosm of jingoism. It's got nothing to do with Paterno the football coach. It's got everything to do with "we are Penn State and no one else can understand what he means to us."

[iron yuppie]

Originally Posted by PhilsFan

This is not about sport. This is about a community, my community, that has convinced itself that it's better than every other community. It's a microcosm of jingoism. It's got nothing to do with Paterno the football coach. It's got everything to do with "we are Penn State and no one else can understand what he means to us."

I respect your opinion, as you are right in the middle of everything, but the only question I would pose in response to the idea that it's not about football is this: why are the students rioting on behalf of Paterno and not on behalf of the ousted president? I would think that, if Penn State is anything like Wisconsin, football forms a substantial part of the school's identity. Sports infiltrate every aspect of social and cultural life at these schools.

And, again, I would argue strongly that the only reason that the sordid deeds were covered up for so long is because they occurred within the football program. Had they occurred anywhere else in the school, swift, decisive action would have been taken.

[PhilsFan]

It would take me a year to explain the answer to your first question.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

In April, Pittsburgh radio host Mark Madden wrote a story revealing Penn State for much of the cover-up of Jerry Sandusky's alleged child rape that has been exposed in the past week. While it didn't raise many eyebrows back then, six months later it looks to be incredibly accurate.

On Thursday morning, just hours after legendary head coach Joe Paterno and university president Graham Spanier were fired by the school's board of trustees, Madden was asked on The Dennis and Callahan Show what he believes the next piece of news will be.
What he said was twice as shocking as anything that's been released thus far.

"I can give you a rumor and I can give you something I think might happen," Madden told John Dennis and Gerry Callahan. "I hear there's a rumor that there will be a more shocking development from the Second Mile Foundation -- and hold on to your stomachs, boys, this is gross, I will use the only language I can -- that Jerry Sandusky and Second Mile were pimping out young boys to rich donors. That was being investigated by two prominent columnists even as I speak."

After the news spread, Madden later explained via Twitter why he went public with the rumors.

"I normally abhor giving RUMORS credence," Madden wrote. "But whole Sandusky scandal started out as a RUMOR. It gets deeper and more disgusting all the time. One of state's top columnists investigating. That adds credence. I am NOT rumor's original source. [Why does] Sandusky deserve benefit of doubt?"

Madden also spoke more definitively on Dennis and Callahan to the cover-up efforts at the school and beyond that he expects will be made public soon.

"The other thing I think that may eventually become uncovered, and I talked about this in my original article back in April, is that I think they'll find out that Jerry Sandusky was told that he had to retire in exchange for a cover-up," Madden said. "If you look at the timeline, that makes perfect sense, doesn't it?

"My opinion is when Sandusky quit, everybody knew -- not just at Penn State," Madden added. "I think it was a very poorly kept secret about college football in general, and that is why he never coached in college football again and retired at the relatively young age of 55. [That's] young for a coach, certainly."

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