NBA 2021-22: Ben Simmons and Kyrie Walk Into A Bar While Talking About The Lakers

[phanan]

Originally Posted by Hewson

I got that part right at least.

Midnight Oil was great and mercifully I didn't see one second of the game. Heard the last 5+ minutes on the radio in the car.



Congrats to GS. Can't win turning the ball over 22 times that's for shit sure.

I would have rather seen Midnight Oil as well.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

C's will be fine - just need to find a point guard.

[mikal]

Bucks in 6 next year. LFG!

[Hewson]

Originally Posted by mikal

Bucks in 6 next year. LFG!

First round against Brooklyn?

[LuckyNumber7]

Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase

part of the debate about anyone these days is that there's too many damn hours to fill on these sports networks. it's like politics, but without worrying about life and death.

the 3-1 defeat followed by the two titles with KD kind of led to this narrative that Steph was just below the upper echelon of stars and wasn't on that upper upper level - that top 10 to 15 players of all time level.

He's on that level.

Aside from his all around greatness as a player - there are very few people who legitimately changed the way basketball is played. Steph Curry is on that list.

Mikan. Kareem. Jordan. Steph. And to be honest? 1/2 on that list are probably George Mikan and Steph Curry - in whichever order you'd like.

Hey now. Wilt Chamberlain literally rewrote the rules of the game after he discovered all the cheat codes. If that’s not changing the game then what is!?

[mikal]

Originally Posted by Hewson

First round against Brooklyn?

I think it's hilarious that Brooklyn is already rated so high in Vegas for next year. Team hasn't gotten past the 2nd round both years they were expected to win it all.

[Hewson]

Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

Hey now. Wilt Chamberlain literally rewrote the rules of the game after he discovered all the cheat codes. If that’s not changing the game then what is!?

20,000 women can't be wrong.

[mikal]

Originally Posted by Hewson

20,000 women can't be wrong.

Scoring champion!

[MrPryck2U]

Wow, since 2011, an NBA Finals has featured Steph and/or Lebron 11 out of 12 seasons.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

Hey now. Wilt Chamberlain literally rewrote the rules of the game after he discovered all the cheat codes. If that’s not changing the game then what is!?

Wilt was dominant, no doubt.

Changing the game is different than just being dominant. Wilt didn't really change the way the game was played. If anything people were critical of how he played - saying that you couldn't win that way and pointing to Russell as proof.

Before George Mikan the lane was half the size as it is now. They literally changed the court design because of him.

Dunking was outlawed in college for a number of years and eventually the mandatory freshman red shirt year was down away with because of Kareem.

Jordan's influence is more off the court in how a superstar player is marketed, but there was a clear shift towards finding players that fit his mold afterwards.

You could make an argument for Patrick Ewing - as the draft lottery was put in place due to his college dominance.

And you have Steph - who has had an undeniable impact on how the game is played from the NBA on down to grassroots. LeBron is a greater all time player than Steph - but LeBron didn't change the way the game is played (probably because nobody can copy his physical dominance, similar to a Wilt or Shaq)

[LuckyNumber7]

Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase

Wilt was dominant, no doubt.

Changing the game is different than just being dominant. Wilt didn't really change the way the game was played. If anything people were critical of how he played - saying that you couldn't win that way and pointing to Russell as proof.

Before George Mikan the lane was half the size as it is now. They literally changed the court design because of him.

I feel like what you’re describing is perfectly valid for Wilt, too though. Mikan widened the lane once - Chamberlain widened it a second time. Chamberlain also basically established the modern free throw protocol, and took away offensive goaltending. Perhaps you can argue he didn’t change the way the game was played because only he was dominating the avenues he changed, but he changed the course of history with rule changes that blocked people from following in his dominant footsteps.

P.S. some kids had Chuck E. Cheese’s growing up, but we had Wilt Chamberlain’s. I only know of this man’s dominance thanks to that place. Best mozzarella sticks ever.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

I feel like what you’re describing is perfectly valid for Wilt, too though. Mikan widened the lane once - Chamberlain widened it a second time. Chamberlain also basically established the modern free throw protocol, and took away offensive goaltending. Perhaps you can argue he didn’t change the way the game was played because only he was dominating the avenues he changed, but he changed the course of history with rule changes that blocked people from following in his dominant footsteps.

P.S. some kids had Chuck E. Cheese’s growing up, but we had Wilt Chamberlain’s. I only know of this man’s dominance thanks to that place. Best mozzarella sticks ever.

All fair points with no debate from me

[Hewson]

Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase

All fair points with no debate from me

Even the best mozzarella sticks point?

[iron yuppie]

It would be too funny if when Simmons finally suits up for the Nets, neither Kyrie nor KD are there anymore.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

I don't think KD is going to ask out.

Kyrie? Man fuck that guy who cares. Let him join the Lakers. Nobody else wants that clown so they deserve each other.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/st...EeVZI931w&s=19

Translation: Kyrie realized nobody else wanted his bum ass so he opted in because his only other option was to take the veteran's minimum, but the PR mouthpiece known as Shams is going to make it seem as if he had a lot of options.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/st...ujfRomhGA&s=19

[gump]

Kyrie has got to be the most annoying athlete right now.

[cobl04]

JR Smith names Matthew Dellavedova the greatest competitor he's seen

All this talk about Steph Curry joining the game's upper echelon of best players, MJ vs Lebron, are we just going to ignore Delly? The MOST competitive player JR Smith has EVER seen.

[LuckyNumber7]

Originally Posted by gump

Kyrie has got to be the most annoying athlete right now.

As opposed to before? I suppose Aaron Rodgers was a thing.