NBA 2016 Playoffs & Beyond - Page 37

gump · 07-06-2016, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

I mean at the very least, a playoff appearance helps attract free agents.

I would be surprised if the Bulls made the playoffs.

Also, I hope Wade faxed his decision to Pat Riley.

Headache in a Suitcase · 07-06-2016, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

I mean at the very least, a playoff appearance helps attract free agents.

Fuckin' Wade. I get why he did it and all, but still. Him taking a discount historically is his own doing. I side with management on this one... his departure is a cap blessing in disguise. He can go tarnish his own legacy, whatever.

It's the right move on both sides.

Wade took a pay cut with the promise that it would be made up to him, and they reneged, cause Riley's a snake.

Riley was smart to do so, because he's as shrewd a GM as they come.

The Bulls on the other hand now have two back court players who can't shoot worth shit.

LuckyNumber7 · 07-06-2016, 10:13 PM

Riley's the best damn snake out there. I'd never complain, with three championships and routine success.

Chris Bosh is why this team couldn't afford Wade. If he can't be healthy, and they signed Wade, this team would be fucked. And something tells me they're not too confident about Bosh. Very fragile position they're in right now.

iron yuppie · 07-06-2016, 10:23 PM

Guess Miami is really banking on Hassan Whiteside.

Headache in a Suitcase · 07-06-2016, 10:24 PM

Bosh will retire, they'll be back a lottery team, and they'll have all the cap room in the world to sign whoever they want over the next two seasons.

LemonMelon · 07-06-2016, 10:30 PM

I'm grateful that our season will now be much more entertaining.

Beyond that, I'm not sure what the plan is long term outside of a theoretical splash signing in 2017 on the strength of his Wade/Rondo's performance this year, which is a gamble. This team is not good enough to chase rings in 2016 and now their core is old.

LuckyNumber7 · 07-07-2016, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase

Bosh will retire, they'll be back a lottery team, and they'll have all the cap room in the world to sign whoever they want over the next two seasons.

Are all of the picks they traded away lottery protected? I'm pretty sure they still owe a handful of 1st and 2nd round picks, though all that stuff was a mess that I quickly forgot about.

gump · 07-07-2016, 09:29 AM

I don't think the Heat will be bad next year. Whiteside is really good. Even without Bosh, I think they have a good shot at the playoffs in the East.

cobl04 · 07-07-2016, 09:37 AM

Well the East is weak AF anyway, isn't it?

Headache in a Suitcase · 07-07-2016, 09:45 AM

If you can breath you have a chance at making the playoffs in the east

Headache in a Suitcase · 07-07-2016, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by LemonMelon

I'm grateful that our season will now be much more entertaining.

Beyond that, I'm not sure what the plan is long term outside of a theoretical splash signing in 2017 on the strength of his Wade/Rondo's performance this year, which is a gamble. This team is not good enough to chase rings in 2016 and now their core is old.

The Bulls best chance is to just be a defensive lockdown team, mud it up and get a lot of transition baskets. Cause offensively they are looking to be easy to guard... just play off and protect the paint.

gump · 07-07-2016, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase

The Bulls best chance is to just be a defensive lockdown team, mud it up and get a lot of transition baskets. Cause offensively they are looking to be easy to guard... just play off and protect the paint.

So, like all the Thibodeau teams?

Headache in a Suitcase · 07-07-2016, 11:11 AM

More or less

gump · 07-07-2016, 11:20 AM

Yeah, I'm with you. Their half court offense will be pretty bad. Not even sure Wade is a good defender these days.

It's unclear what their plan is. I thought they wanted to rebuild, but this seems to leave them just around mediocrity, which is the worst position to be at (hello Knicks!).

Headache in a Suitcase · 07-07-2016, 11:45 AM

I actually think the Knicks will be better... but they're in a very similar place in that they're relying largely on aging, inured stats who take bad shots.

Difference is the Knicks still have Porzingis. If he can take it to the next level next year it's a different ball game.

Headache in a Suitcase · 07-07-2016, 12:04 PM

Let's also not forget that in order to add a 34 year old with knee issues to their roster, the Bulls had to make the defending champions better.

PhilsFan · 07-07-2016, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

He can go tarnish his own legacy, whatever.

Spending a couple of seasons at the end of his career on his hometown team is not tarnishing his legacy, regardless of whether they compete or not.

LuckyNumber7 · 07-07-2016, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PhilsFan

Spending a couple of seasons at the end of his career on his hometown team is not tarnishing his legacy, regardless of whether they compete or not.

I would venture to say if any player spends their entire career with one team from start to finish, it's a legacy builder. I was referring to Dwyane Wade's "Miami Wade County" legacy.

I'm not hating on him. Like I said, blessing in disguise. But I wouldn't pretend I'm not disappointed with him.

GirlsAloudFan · 07-07-2016, 11:56 PM

This at least breaks the looooooong streak of big name free agents not wanting to come to Chicago.

Yeah, D Wade is old but he's still a big name. So we got that goin for us, which is nice.

As LeMel alluded too, at least the Bulls won't be boring. I'm looking forward to the season with Stacey King on the call.

Probably a starting 5 of Rondo, Wade, Butler, Gibson, and Lopez. With Valentine, McDermott, Mirotic, and Portis off the bench.

I think two key players there are McDermott and Mirotic. They both need to become more consistent at shooting the three. And I think they both can.

Headache in a Suitcase · 07-11-2016, 11:52 AM

07-06-2016, 10:30 PM	#726
LemonMelon More 5G Than Man Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hollywoo Posts: 68,642 Local Time: 07:42 PM	NBA 2016 Playoffs & Beyond I'm grateful that our season will now be much more entertaining. Beyond that, I'm not sure what the plan is long term outside of a theoretical splash signing in 2017 on the strength of his Wade/Rondo's performance this year, which is a gamble. This team is not good enough to chase rings in 2016 and now their core is old.

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07-06-2016, 10:13 PM	#723
LuckyNumber7 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 18,908 Local Time: 10:42 PM	Riley's the best damn snake out there. I'd never complain, with three championships and routine success. Chris Bosh is why this team couldn't afford Wade. If he can't be healthy, and they signed Wade, this team would be fucked. And something tells me they're not too confident about Bosh. Very fragile position they're in right now.

07-06-2016, 10:23 PM	#724
iron yuppie ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 10,715 Local Time: 09:42 PM	Guess Miami is really banking on Hassan Whiteside.

07-06-2016, 10:24 PM	#725
Headache in a Suitcase Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: This forum just ain't what it was pre-2007 but I still post here Posts: 69,582 Local Time: 10:42 PM	Bosh will retire, they'll be back a lottery team, and they'll have all the cap room in the world to sign whoever they want over the next two seasons.

07-07-2016, 09:29 AM	#728
gump ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2005 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 10,044 Local Time: 10:42 PM	I don't think the Heat will be bad next year. Whiteside is really good. Even without Bosh, I think they have a good shot at the playoffs in the East.

07-07-2016, 09:37 AM	#729
cobl04 45:33 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: East Point to Shaolin Posts: 58,491 Local Time: 12:42 PM	Well the East is weak AF anyway, isn't it?

07-07-2016, 09:45 AM	#730
Headache in a Suitcase Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: This forum just ain't what it was pre-2007 but I still post here Posts: 69,582 Local Time: 10:42 PM	If you can breath you have a chance at making the playoffs in the east

07-07-2016, 11:11 AM	#733
Headache in a Suitcase Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: This forum just ain't what it was pre-2007 but I still post here Posts: 69,582 Local Time: 10:42 PM	More or less

07-07-2016, 11:20 AM	#734
gump ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2005 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 10,044 Local Time: 10:42 PM	Yeah, I'm with you. Their half court offense will be pretty bad. Not even sure Wade is a good defender these days. It's unclear what their plan is. I thought they wanted to rebuild, but this seems to leave them just around mediocrity, which is the worst position to be at (hello Knicks!).

07-07-2016, 11:45 AM	#735
Headache in a Suitcase Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: This forum just ain't what it was pre-2007 but I still post here Posts: 69,582 Local Time: 10:42 PM	I actually think the Knicks will be better... but they're in a very similar place in that they're relying largely on aging, inured stats who take bad shots. Difference is the Knicks still have Porzingis. If he can take it to the next level next year it's a different ball game.

07-07-2016, 12:04 PM	#736
Headache in a Suitcase Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: This forum just ain't what it was pre-2007 but I still post here Posts: 69,582 Local Time: 10:42 PM	Let's also not forget that in order to add a 34 year old with knee issues to their roster, the Bulls had to make the defending champions better.

07-07-2016, 11:56 PM	#739
GirlsAloudFan Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 26,431 Local Time: 09:42 PM	This at least breaks the looooooong streak of big name free agents not wanting to come to Chicago. Yeah, D Wade is old but he's still a big name. So we got that goin for us, which is nice. As LeMel alluded too, at least the Bulls won't be boring. I'm looking forward to the season with Stacey King on the call. Probably a starting 5 of Rondo, Wade, Butler, Gibson, and Lopez. With Valentine, McDermott, Mirotic, and Portis off the bench. I think two key players there are McDermott and Mirotic. They both need to become more consistent at shooting the three. And I think they both can.