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Old 06-20-2016, 11:40 AM   #561
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I hope Kyrie gets more props after all this. To me at least, he was the series most consistent high performer. And he hit THE clutch shot. And he neutralized GS's biggest weapon on the defensive end.
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Really good story for Richard Jefferson too. Always seemed like a stand up guy. Played in Milwaukee for a year when he started to become a journeyman. I didn't even realize this but in his retirement announcement, he had detailed how many close calls he's had in both college and the pros and never was able to win a championship. Now he gets to go out on top.
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LeBron was LeBron and is clearly the MVP of the series... but Kyrie turning it on from Game 5 on clearly was the difference maker in the series. He picked the right time to get hot from the outside.

A nod to the layer of pipe JR Smith as well for knocking down those threes at the start of the third quarter when it appeared as if Cleveland might be on the verge of being blown out.

Amazing how quickly the luster can fall off if the Warriors, both as a team and individually; specifically Curry and Kerr.

Curry just couldn't get it going. I dunno if he's hurt or Cleveland just figured it out, or both... but he was clearly flustered and let it get to him. Same thing happened last year, but he finally caught fire and that was that. The fire never came this year, and it's clear that the book on him come playoff time is to a) knock him around physically, and b) put him in every single pick and roll situation imaginable.

Kerr needed to make an adjustment offensively and failed to do so. The Warriors would score almost every time out or a timeout, with some absolutely beautiful set plays... but that was it. They had no other options when the jump shooters weren't getting open. And his insistence on playing the Ezili / Verejao combination for 20 minutes...of which they produced a combined -19, no points, no blocks and one rebound... will have him second guessing all summer long. Should have seen more Barbosa and Livingston in a small ball lineup.

I can't believe the draft is already on Thursday. This is gonna be a crazy offseason.
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Curry just couldn't get it going. I dunno if he's hurt or Cleveland just figured it out, or both... but he was clearly flustered and let it get to him. Same thing happened last year, but he finally caught fire and that was that. The fire never came this year, and it's clear that the book on him come playoff time is to a) knock him around physically, and b) put him in every single pick and roll situation imaginable.

Kerr needed to make an adjustment offensively and failed to do so. The Warriors would score almost every time out or a timeout, with some absolutely beautiful set plays... but that was it. They had no other options when the jump shooters weren't getting open. And his insistence on playing the Ezili / Verejao combination for 20 minutes...of which they produced a combined -19, no points, no blocks and one rebound... will have him second guessing all summer long. Should have seen more Barbosa and Livingston in a small ball lineup.
Re: Curry, I thought it was bullshit at the time, but maybe there is something to the argument that GS should have taken it easy toward the end of the regular season rather than gunning for the record. Both Curry and Klay looked completely fatigued in the last few games; look at how many threes they left short, and also the mental errors, especially on Curry's part. Cleveland should also be thanking Westbrook for making Curry work as hard as he did in the west finals.

But I think what this series really exposed about Curry, like you say, is that making him work on the defensive end is the key to containing him on the offensive end. Think he needs to hit the weight room a bit so he can absorb more of the physical play he will be seeing.

Re: Varejao, there was a stretch where GS went to him four times in a row, and I was thinking hey, if you want to run your offense through Anderson Varejao, be my guest. Cleveland didn't even go to him that often when we were 20-62 or whatever.
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LeBron was LeBron and is clearly the MVP of the series... but Kyrie turning it on from Game 5 on clearly was the difference maker in the series. He picked the right time to get hot from the outside.

A nod to the layer of pipe JR Smith as well for knocking down those threes at the start of the third quarter when it appeared as if Cleveland might be on the verge of being blown out.

Amazing how quickly the luster can fall off if the Warriors, both as a team and individually; specifically Curry and Kerr.

Curry just couldn't get it going. I dunno if he's hurt or Cleveland just figured it out, or both... but he was clearly flustered and let it get to him. Same thing happened last year, but he finally caught fire and that was that. The fire never came this year, and it's clear that the book on him come playoff time is to a) knock him around physically, and b) put him in every single pick and roll situation imaginable.

Kerr needed to make an adjustment offensively and failed to do so. The Warriors would score almost every time out or a timeout, with some absolutely beautiful set plays... but that was it. They had no other options when the jump shooters weren't getting open. And his insistence on playing the Ezili / Verejao combination for 20 minutes...of which they produced a combined -19, no points, no blocks and one rebound... will have him second guessing all summer long. Should have seen more Barbosa and Livingston in a small ball lineup.

I can't believe the draft is already on Thursday. This is gonna be a crazy offseason.
I don't remember hearing that Curry was ever back to 100%, or even close. I don't follow this as closely as most of you, but I was under the impression that it was understood he was playing with the injury for the remainder of the playoffs. So it mystifies me that people are accusing him of being a choke artist.
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I don't remember hearing that Curry was ever back to 100%, or even close. I don't follow this as closely as most of you, but I was under the impression that it was understood he was playing with the injury for the remainder of the playoffs. So it mystifies me that people are accusing him of being a choke artist.
Yeah, I don't know if we'll ever know what percentage he was at. Had a bad series for sure, but he's still young. I don't know that this series really defines his legacy and as usual, people are overreacting. If anything this series was a Lebron legacy defining moment.
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When you're 73-9 with a 3-1 series lead and 2 of the remaining 3 games are in your home court, you're going to take some heat, and you deserve to take some heat; especially when the three games you won weren't exactly close.

I don't necessarily see it as a choke but more of LeBron and Kyrie imposing their will on games 5 and 6. Game 7 was a different story. It was there for the taking, and they let it slip from their grip.

The Warriors were so good because they dictated the pace of the game and made other teams play at a pace that only they could sustain.

How they allowed long stretches of time to go by without going small is beyond me. Kerr out thought himself. That was less defending champion and NBA record holder Steve Kerr and more I thought Shaq and Amare could play together Steve Kerr.
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When you're 73-9 with a 3-1 series lead and 2 of the remaining 3 games are in your home court, you're going to take some heat, and you deserve to take some heat; especially when the three games you won weren't exactly close.

I don't necessarily see it as a choke but more of LeBron and Kyrie imposing their will on games 5 and 6. Game 7 was a different story. It was there for the taking, and they let it slip from their grip.

The Warriors were so good because they dictated the pace of the game and made other teams play at a pace that only they could sustain.

How they allowed long stretches of time to go by without going small is beyond me. Kerr out thought himself. That was less defending champion and NBA record holder Steve Kerr and more I thought Shaq and Amare could play together Steve Kerr.
Very true about Game 7. Even when the Cavs momentarily went up by 5 (or was it 7?), I really felt like the Warriors were mostly in control. Heck, they were even up by 4 with a little over 5 minutes to go. At that point, I really thought the Cavs looked winded and thought for sure that the Warrior were about to start draining 3's.
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Re watching the Warriors final real possession... this is a spot where Curry really did shit the bed. He gets Love switched on go him, and he has him beat... twice even... but he's so intent in taking the three that he pulls back. He could have had a 2-1 with him and Draymond vs Tristin Thompson but instead he just keeps trying to shake Love for the three. To Love's credit he totally sells out on the three point attempt and doesn't buy any of the fakes.

At the very least after Curry had to give the ball up the first time Kerr should have taken a timeout and drawn up a play. I guess they both just thought that Love would fall or foul eventually.
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At one point in the second half (can't remember when) Curry lazily tries a behind the back pass to Klay Thompson that goes out of bounds. Was completely unnecessary and emblematic of the type of errors Curry et al. were making the last 3 games.
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Kerr needed to make an adjustment offensively and failed to do so. The Warriors would score almost every time out or a timeout, with some absolutely beautiful set plays... but that was it. They had no other options when the jump shooters weren't getting open. And his insistence on playing the Ezili / Verejao combination for 20 minutes...of which they produced a combined -19, no points, no blocks and one rebound... will have him second guessing all summer long. Should have seen more Barbosa and Livingston in a small ball lineup.
He had way more resources at his disposal than Lue, even with the injuries, and failed to get it done. Just look at Cleveland's bench and tell me that's a championship winner. It was an impressive run for Cleveland, a very impressive run. But Golden State definitely blew some great chances.
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I didn't know where to look when this happened. It got me.

When/if ever my team wins their competition, that's going to be me.
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I actually think Kerr was spot on in sticking to his guns defensively even though it wasn't working... the odds were in favor of LeBron and Kyrie not shooting that well from the outside in three straight games, and it finally did happen that way again in game 7... but they just got punked on the other side of the floor.

I'm all for an open, let your players play type of system. But eventually when things aren't working you need something to fall back on, and it just looked like they were intent on just fucking that chicken until the threes fell.

And all that said, they still had the ball down 3 with just under a minute to go. Curry should have gone to the basket, and when he couldn't the first time, Kerr needed to take a timeout and draw up some sort of quick hitter to the rim and then foul to extend the game.

They also botched the foul to give on the next play and let too much time tick off the clock.
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And all that said, they still had the ball down 3 with just under a minute to go. Curry should have gone to the basket, and when he couldn't the first time, Kerr needed to take a timeout and draw up some sort of quick hitter to the rim and then foul to extend the game.
Okay....glad I wasn't the only person thinking that.
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A unprecedented comeback, breaking a drought, upsetting a team, that if they won would have claim to being one of the best teams ever. Right now LeBron is a combination of Eli Manning and David Ortiz. And then you remember he was already in the top ten or five players of all time even before the regular season started. (unlike Ortiz and manning who were not big time yet before they won). Then he did this. Has to be up there with the greatest stories in sports history.
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Until he signs with the Lakers in a month
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Lets not forget the greatest part of this year's finals:

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