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Old 05-11-2021, 03:44 PM   #81
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You must really like lazy flyballs that have a 99% catch probability, Ashley!
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You must really like lazy flyballs that have a 99% catch probability, Ashley!

Haha, I get what you're saying. It's less that, and more of a hope that if the ball isn't just gonna go sailing over the wall every three hits or so, then maybe we can go back to trying to get on the damn bag instead of swinging for the fences. But until then, yeah, it does suck.
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Old 05-11-2021, 05:09 PM   #83
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I always felt that the home runs were fine, it's the excessive strikeouts that have made it so frustrating. OBP was pretty low even before the HR surge in the last few years (it's striking how every year from 2000-2010 had a higher league OBP than 2011-2021).

I truly think that swinging for the fences is the symptom not the cause. It's an adjustments hitters made to increasing velocity and spin. Pitching has advanced so much more than hitting, so hitters have very little chance right now (and the chances of chaining a few singles are even worse). I don't think there's any solution other thank moving the mound back.
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I always felt that the home runs were fine, it's the excessive strikeouts that have made it so frustrating. OBP was pretty low even before the HR surge in the last few years (it's striking how every year from 2000-2010 had a higher league OBP than 2011-2021).

I truly think that swinging for the fences is the symptom not the cause. It's an adjustments hitters made to increasing velocity and spin. Pitching has advanced so much more than hitting, so hitters have very little chance right now (and the chances of chaining a few singles are even worse). I don't think there's any solution other thank moving the mound back.

Yeah, that's very true. I mean, it's one of those things like being discussed earlier: Eventually we get too good at a sport, especially when you're training kids to that and only that from the time they're able to walk.
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i would rather see the effectiveness of a ban on the shift before they start tinkering with the playing field.
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i would rather see the effectiveness of a ban on the shift before they start tinkering with the playing field.
Meh. The shift is on in just about a third of PAs. Ground balls are hit roughly 40% of balls in play (which are becoming more rare). So banning the shift affects what, maybe 15% of plate appearances that end in a ground ball? Perhaps a bit less. How many of those would actually be prevented by banning the shift? I'm not sure turning a few extra ground balls into singles will meaningfully change league wide offense.

I'd rather change the mound than creating artificial rules on how one should position fielders.
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Literally every sport has broken purity at some point, making the continuous statistical heritage null. Three point line, two line pass, yada yada
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Remove the extreme shift.
Remove the high strike.
Remove the lefty strike.
Lower the mound.
Enforce the rules regarding pitchers using foreign substances.

That’s how offense returns.
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"I don't want the DH, I love to watch pitchers hit" part XCVII:

https://twitter.com/Orioles/status/1392532562732593159
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Pitchers are striking out as much as everyone else these days.
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Old 05-12-2021, 01:33 PM   #91
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Pitchers are striking out as much as everyone else these days.
I know this is hyperbole, but it's not even close.

Pitcher strikeout rate: 47.9%. Pitcher batting line: .099/.130/.132 (LOL) . Over 1,000 plate appearances of nothing.

Non-pitcher strikeout rate: 23.5%. Non-pitcher batting line: .238/.316/.398
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I support both more offense and pitchers having to bat. 1) it makes pitching change tactics more interesting later in the game and 2) it adds some element of tactical play whereby having a multi tool asset of a pitcher is valuable and shouldn’t be disregarded.

Also I hate baseball.
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Old 05-12-2021, 01:52 PM   #94
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I've never liked seeing the pitchers hit. The worst is when they would bust out the jackets to run. Don't wanna get chilly out there. Lol! Long live the DH!
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Go watch Jose Fernandez or Dontrelle Willis or Greg or Tom Glavine or Madison Bumgarber at bat. They were all fun. No clue if Bumhead can still hit, since baseball sucks now.
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NL managers with a DH and analytics dominating scouting and coaching gonna be breaking these out

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I support both more offense and pitchers having to bat. 1) it makes pitching change tactics more interesting later in the game and 2) it adds some element of tactical play whereby having a multi tool asset of a pitcher is valuable and shouldn’t be disregarded.
What that guy said...

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Go watch Jose Fernandez or Dontrelle Willis or Greg or Tom Glavine or Madison Bumgarber at bat. They were all fun. No clue if Bumhead can still hit, since baseball sucks now.
To this day I still contend that the Mets would have won the 2016 NLCS if Willie Randolph would have sent Darren Oliver up to pinch hit instead of a gimpy Cliff Floyd.

And without pitchers hitting, who the hell is going to provide all of deGrom's run support?
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I wonder who I was thinking of by “Greg” because I currently can’t think of any good hitting pitchers named Greg.

Also, Bumgarber is a good typo.
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