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Old 08-03-2012, 03:54 PM   #441
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And for those of you saying gymnastics is not as good as it used to be... yeah. I just saw this.



I've watched the slomo about 10 times and I still don't see how this is humanly possible.

And apparently she didn't get a perfect 10 for this and only won silver.
The Korbut on bars isn't really all that hard and is now "illegal" because you cannot do skills where you are standing/jumping off the high bar. The equipment has morphed for routines that involve swinging and release skills.
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I'd never seen that. Holy crap!

Is it now no longer the style to have that move where, to get to the high bar, they stand on the low bar? That always looked so weird and awkward compared to everything else in the routine.
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Men's Indoor Volleyball win over Brazil was nice. From a purely athletic standpoint, I much prefer Indoor to Beach Volleyball.
Agreed. Indoor volleyball is insane. It's great on TV and of course even better in person.;

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Those dudes can fucking THUMP a serve. Damn.

Volleyball is a great sport at a high level. I think it's the next college sport that will grow, sort of like women's softball. Hopefully ESPN won't monopolize it. Unfortunately, that may be what it takes to grow it. Fucking ESPN...
I hope so. Since they changed the scoring format and added the libero it's now more television friendly. I think that the emergence the Mid-West and East Coast teams is great for the sport.
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I'd never seen that. Holy crap!

Is it now no longer the style to have that move where, to get to the high bar, they stand on the low bar? That always looked so weird and awkward compared to everything else in the routine.
Depends on the level. Below Elite you still see this. At Olympic level they are using complicated transitions to get from low to high so they don't just do a cast-squat on and then jump.
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Did they used to do that more often at the Elite level, though? I only ever end up seeing Olympics or maybe US/World competitions, and I thought I remembered them still using that fairly often.

Maybe I'm just confused - I'm only a casual viewer!
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USA-New Zealand women's soccer Quarterfinal 9:30 AM ET.

I say NZ puts up more of a fight than people might expect. Maybe 3-1 USA win.
I didn't see the match, but I hope those NZ doctors knew what they were doing.

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That looked very painful on both sides.
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I, uh, woke up this morning to find I'd made this last night while celebrating New Zealand's success - I may be enjoying things too much:



Time to give as good as we get! Especially since I'm sure that within the next few days, Australia will have finally found its way to some more gold.

This article is very much over-jubilant, but I can't help agreeing with some parts rather strongly anyway:

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How could anyone not be moved by the sight of Drysdale choking back the tears at achieving his life's dream after sickness restricted him to bronze in Beijing.

And while we're still delirious, here's a question: What's the difference between the New Zealand Rowing team and the entire Australian Olympic squad?

The Kiwi oarspeople have more gold medals.

Today's Lake Dorney double - coupled with Nathan Cohen and Joseph Sullivan's pairs triumph - means New Zealand has three gold medals to Australia's ONE.

Pass that big can of borax please. No, on second thoughts, give us the silo.

Savour the moment New Zealand. While we can. We've suffered enough Australian opprobrium over the years.
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Yeah that was nuts, the NZ goalie was laid out for a minute after, Morgan too. There was another crazy moment in Great Britain-Canada. GB was down 2-0 & got a free kick and loaded the box with their players, and everyone went for the ball and it looked like a Football game with tackling all over.

I like volleyball, do they show the volleyball world cups or championships whatever they call it on TV? NBC Sports might start to. It could be bigger than it is here in the US.
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New Zealand #1 on the medal table when weighted for population.
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All this bragging flies in the face of your silver-and-bronze-are-great-too stance we're ranked ninth by total medals, you are waaaaay down!
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All this bragging flies in the face of your silver-and-bronze-are-great-too stance we're ranked ninth by total medals, you are waaaaay down!
Enjoying the moment after years upon years of copping it from you lot! Oh I like watching Australia suffer in their boots, especially with the desperate "Team Oceania" drivel on The Age right now.

But I wouldn't say this bragging "flies in the face" of my stance at all. After Mahé Drysdale's gold, my favourite Kiwi medal of this Games so far is the bronze our equestrian team won in the three-day event. Massive, massive effort; Andrew Nicholson was just perfect in the cross-country and showjumping after copping an unfavourable call in the dressage, and Mark Todd is pretty much a god amongst mere mortals. And while Australia's sulking about silvers and bronzes, I'm pretty sure the equestrian team's still partying hard. Apparently they threw one hell of a celebration that night anyway!
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New Zealand #1 on the medal table when weighted for population.


when weighted for population, where is Michael Phelps?
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when weighted for population, where is Michael Phelps?
Left this planet behind.
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anyway, to preempt a bit on the inevitable conversation, there are going to be questions regarding Katie Ledecky in light of Ye Shiwin.

here's the difference, for me. Ledecky has improved dramatically over past year. and no surprise, she's 15 years old. Ye's improvement at age 16 is also not unexpected. Ye improved by 5 seconds over a 400m race, Ledecky by 5 seconds over an 800m race, though by about 15 seconds over the past year.

so why does it look like, to me, that Ye's swim is more suspicious? because Ledecky's swim was totally consistent with how people have always swum, whereas Ye's final split simply doesn't make sense in context. Ledecky's finally 100 won't be faster than the likely winner of the men's 1500 (China's Sun Yang) whereas Ye was faster than Lochte and half the men in the same event (the women swim the 800 not the 1500, but expect that to change in Rio where they both swim the 1500, as it should be).

perhaps i am biased, which i think we all are naturally, but China has a long history of doping in swimming (40-ish drug busts since the early 1990s) whereas USA swimming has had a few (Angel Martino, who did cheat; Jessica Hardy who proved that she had taken something mistakenly as part of a supplement) and there was some suspicions around Misty Hymen who beat Susie O'Neill back in 2000 in the 200 fly with a similar huge time drop. Dara Torres acknowledged the inevitable head on. Phelps gets drug tested up to 3x a week. and it just seems impossible to me at a 15 year old who lives 15 minutes from me up in Bethesda (and swims for one of the best age group clubs in the US) and is going to be a sophomore and was only a year ago probably not thinking about the Olympics would be able to find some EPO or synthetic testosterone in the way that a swimmer like Ye, who was identified and put in a state sport school at an early age, would be.

but that's how it goes. no GDR swimmer ever failed a drug test. Ye's strokes are gorgeous and balanced. my issue with her is not her time (she broke what was a great, suit-assisted WR whereas Ledecky didn't break another great, suit-assisted WR) but the strangeness of her final 100m.

anyway ... fucking fantastic meet. notable for the end of Phelps and his powerful rebound, the new era of swimming (Franklin, Le Clos, Ledecky, and, yes, Ye), the falling of the favorites (Cielo, Adlington, Lochte, Magnussen), and probably the best Team USA performance since 1976 (i don't count 1984).

and thank you to everyone who bothers to read my blathering about swimming. i rarely get to feel like i know anything about any sports -- i pretty much don't care about *any* professional sports -- and so i appreciate having a space to write about it.

also, i anticipate Phelps will return in 2016 for the 100 fly. he'll get bored in Baltimore. believe me, i know. i've been there. and when you have more gold medals than Argentina, what else are you going to do with your time?
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I agree. I'm suspicious of the Chinese swim program because of their history. I'm just as suspicious of US Track and Field.

I continue to love Franklin and wonder whether she will end up competing in the NCAA. The endorsement money will be hard to turn down.
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New band name for you. "Alex Morgan's Knee".

Irvine, you don't need to apologize for gushing about anything, let alone Phelps. The only reason I hope he really does retire from Olympic competition is because I'm sick of seeing his Mom and sisters. Even when dude's on the fucking medal stand, they cut to his Mom a bunch of times. Just stop it.

And, Romero, I've actually televised Conference NCAA VB for years and years. It never rates all that well, unfortunately.
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Oh shit, Trampoline action.
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also, i anticipate Phelps will return in 2016 for the 100 fly. he'll get bored in Baltimore. believe me, i know. i've been there. and when you have more gold medals than Argentina, what else are you going to do with your time?
Smoke pot and play poker? I've heard he's a regular at the poker room in Charles Town, WV. I've never seen him there though (I go there maybe 1-2x a month).
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