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Old 06-17-2011, 09:53 PM   #501
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Well, speaking more broadly, I'm honestly astounded at the vitriol directed towards AFL umpires. I can't fathom why anybody would want to be one in light of such hate. Cricket umpires are generally respected, and while rugby referees cop some shit, it's hardly on the same level (unless you are Wayne Barnes trying to walk the streets of New Zealand, or Stuart Dickinson trying to walk within 100m of me). Why such anger in AFL?
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I think it's because of the numerous rules and everything that goes with it in the AFL, the umpires generally have more pressure to umpire well and a thing as little as a wrong decision, going soft or hard on a player can be likely to turn the game on its head. It's a very tough job, but you just can't not let rip at them for a diabolical mistake. Last night's game is a good example, we were up by about a goal midway through the third and one of our players gets caught HTB after not really having a chance to dispose of it. He had no option but to barge through at the time. This happened 25 metres in front of goal, this surely swung the momentum big time. It's things like these.

That's how I see it.
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Oh hello, I though Brisbane had a bye this week. I looked at everyone's picks and for some reason or another my eyes just weren't focusing on their name anywhere .

Well, they may as well have a bye
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I think it's because of the numerous rules and everything that goes with it in the AFL, the umpires generally have more pressure to umpire well and a thing as little as a wrong decision, going soft or hard on a player can be likely to turn the game on its head. It's a very tough job, but you just can't not let rip at them for a diabolical mistake. Last night's game is a good example, we were up by about a goal midway through the third and one of our players gets caught HTB after not really having a chance to dispose of it. He had no option but to barge through at the time. This happened 25 metres in front of goal, this surely swung the momentum big time. It's things like these.

That's how I see it.
In a sport like AFL or rugby, though, one bad umpiring decision will very rarely actually change the result. It pretty much has to be right at the death of a painfully close game to do that. Good teams are good enough to win even if the decisions largely go against them; I've lost track of the amount of times I've seen the All Blacks win despite shitty Northern referees who want to just slow the game down (similarly but also in contrast, Wayne Barnes' howler in 2007 potentially cost us a semi-final World Cup berth, but a good enough team would have come back and won anyway). This year, that no-advantage call in Collingwood vs Geelong is really the only time I'd pay complaints that an umpire decision changed the outcome of the game; otherwise, you should be able to win anyway. Winning teams take bad decisions in their stride and bounce back.

By contrast, in cricket, pretty much any dismissal decision is going to totally change the course of the game. For example, look at teams that have just one truly remarkable batsman. If the umpire gives him out on 2 in an ODI, that's probably their game over right there. But if the umpire rules him not out and he goes on to accumulate 170, that could be a matchwinner. Yet it's very rare to see outright hate for umpires who make decisions like this; I think people respect how hard it is for cricket umpires, yet show none for AFL umpires - even though both have to make very tough calls on sometimes complicated rules. I don't get it.
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Not necessarily change the result, but have an effect on the outcome, on the momentum etc.
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Fucking Essendon. Ruining my multi
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Watching Before the Game for some reason (seriously, why) and half of that Patrick Dangerfield interview was practically just the cast begging for him to play for a Victorian club, putting words into his mouth. Pathetic.
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See the Bombers fly down! down!
To fall out of the top eight!



Up until yesterday, I thought the recent losses were just a bad spell in the season and that we'd recover some momentum and probably at least make it to the first week of the finals. Now? I think it's pretty clear the wheels have fallen off after such a damn good start to the season. We're going to get slaughtered by Hawthorn next week! Doesn't help that North Melbourne are on the ascendancy; ninth as of last night?!

And that St Kilda vs Geelong game last night actually proved to be fairly decent. If the Saints hadn't had such a wretched second quarter, that could've gone down to the wire. I'm just glad they didn't get blown totally off the park.
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Down five 20 minutes in? Fuck us. Fuck the whole damned sport and everything it represents. I don't need this shit. I don't need our coach's shit. Fuck the world. Fuck. /Vlad
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If only I had used more profanity than I usually do.
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I've got to make it my own too.

3 unanswered goals since I started watching.
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Carlton shouldn't be up by this much, but Sydney is just hideously inaccurate.

Holy shit, Freo.
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Taking the foot off the gas up by 40 now, but the point is made: great win, and now that we're only 2 points away from catching Collingwood, next week's challenging home match against West Coast is of utmost importance. I'm far more afraid of the Eagles than the Swans: Sydney just can't score right now. I certainly like the Magpies over the Swans by a large amount next week, even on the road.
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I'd be 150 fucking bucks richer if essendon had got up. Cunts.
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I'd be 150 fucking bucks richer if essendon had got up. Cunts.
You don't have $150 and I don't have my footy pride. Bad weekend!

lulz Freo, though.
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Down five 20 minutes in? Fuck us. Fuck the whole damned sport and everything it represents. I don't need this shit. I don't need our coach's shit. Fuck the world. Fuck. /Vlad
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Hurn must be just about the most underrated player in the league.
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