2011 MLB - Part III - World Series, etc.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

of all the japanese players who've come over to the majors, only ichiro has had sustained long term success. none of the pitchers have been able to be anything more than a flash in the pan, usually due to a strange windup.

so yea... i think texas is nuts.

 

[DRay9911]

Matsuzaka was 26 when he started with the Red Sox...good luck.

Maybe Yu has a gyroball too

 

[Imperor]

I'm well aware that it's pretty high risk, but I'm going to try and be optimistic anyway.

 

[LuckyNumber7]

of all the japanese players who've come over to the majors, only ichiro has had sustained long term success. none of the pitchers have been able to be anything more than a flash in the pan, usually due to a strange windup.

so yea... i think texas is nuts.

It's my understanding that Yu is the cats pajamas in Japan. Better than Daisuke.

Not that that discounts what you've said.

 

[gump]

Well, I think the Rangers should be commended for the ballsy move. I'd rather take a chance with Yu even at that cost than CJ Wilson, for example.

Frankly, I hope it works out for them, if nothing to break the myth that Japanese players can't do well in MLB.

 

[speedracer]

IIRC, the baseball they use in Japan has higher stitches than the baseball used in MLB. Surely somebody out there must have done a preliminary study on its aerodynamics and how much it improves the pitcher's ability to throw breaking pitches, right? And surely front offices must have their own opinions on the matter?

If not, it's very likely that Japanese pitchers are systematically worse than we think, and that conversely Japanese hitters are systematically better than we think.

 

[MrPryck2U]

So the rangers can spend 51M just to negotiate with Yu, but don't open up the wallet for Lee when they had the chance.

They never had a chance. Lee wanted to go to Philly all along. They can spend 51M because they DIDN'T spend money on Lee and Wilson.

 

[BoMac]

Plus, if they don't reach an agreement with Yu within the next 30 days, they get that $51 million back.

It's a worthwhile risk, in my opinion.

 

[LuckyNumber7]

I wonder how all of this Yu Darvish activity will impact Yoenis Cespedes...

Of course Yu has more going for him considering his league is a bit more reputable.

 

[GirlsAloudFan]

Japanese players?

 

[GirlsAloudFan]

Looks like we're close to signing John Danks to a 5 yr. extension.

Fuck yes.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

It's my understanding that Yu is the cats pajamas in Japan. Better than Daisuke.

Not that that discounts what you've said.

 

[PhilsFan]

Logan Morrison is reporting that Prince Fielder is signing with the Mariners? I feel like a question mark is the best way to end that sentence.

 

[Chizip]

Cards give 2 year deal to Beltran, I can live with that...

 

[LuckyNumber7]

Logan Morrison is reporting that Prince Fielder is signing with the Mariners? I feel like a question mark is the best way to end that sentence.

Logan Morrison tried to persuade CJ Wilson to come to Florida through Twitter.

 

[the tourist]

With how these clubs are raping teams of their talent for starting pitchers who are really more like number 2 or 3 starters, I'm genuinely curious what Felix could fetch. Probably something like Lawrie, d'Arnaud, Gose, and Drabek. Or Ogando, Olt, Profar, and Martin.

 

[LuckyNumber7]

Scares me. Marlins still need an SP.

 

[the tourist]

Scares me. Marlins still need an SP.

Yeah. Get ready to kiss Mike Stanton goodbye (if they go for Felix!).

 

[LuckyNumber7]

Hah, anyone asking for Mike Stanton is foolish. He's not going anywhere.

Even asking Logan Morrison is something that turns the FO away.

 

[the tourist]

Hah, anyone asking for Mike Stanton is foolish. He's not going anywhere.

Even asking Logan Morrison is something that turns the FO away.

Not everyone is Felix Hernandez, though. 25 year old ace at a bargain.

 

[LuckyNumber7]

Indeed. But still, Stanton has youth on his side and is showing generational talent. There's no reason to trade him. Even when the value is there and it's a 'fair deal', Stanton is still one of the very few players in the league that remains 'untouchable' to almost all realistic extents.

 

[Imperor]

Ogando, Olt, Profar, and Martin.

No thanks.

 

[the tourist]

Indeed. But still, Stanton has youth on his side and is showing generational talent. There's no reason to trade him. Even when the value is there and it's a 'fair deal', Stanton is still one of the very few players in the league that remains 'untouchable' to almost all realistic extents.

Hey, just like Felix!

 

[LuckyNumber7]

Sorry Bro: Sports Through Houser: Logan Morrison: The MLB Troll of the Year

PF, there's your explanation to Morrison's tweeting. I tend not to follow Twitter by any means.

 

[gump]

Not everyone is Felix Hernandez, though. 25 year old ace at a bargain.

60 million from 2012-2014 is hardly a bargain. Almost market salary on a per year basis, which somewhat decreases his value (not saying his value is not sky high, but let's not kid ourselves that he is cost-controlled). A guy like Kershaw would undoubtedly fetch more in a trade.

 

[the tourist]

60 million from 2012-2014 is hardly a bargain. Almost market salary on a per year basis, which somewhat decreases his value (not saying his value is not sky high, but let's not kid ourselves that he is cost-controlled). A guy like Kershaw would undoubtedly fetch more in a trade.

He'll outproduce his contract by a couple WAR per year. He'll probably be making less than Lincecum by the end of Lincecum's arbitration.

 

[Hewson]

Red Sox will give Seattle John Lackey straight up for Felix.
Lackey has already won game 7 of a World Series, Felix has not, so its a bargain for the Mariners.

 

[LuckyNumber7]

Speaking of which, word has it the Denver Broncos are in talks with the Green Bay Packers in an Aaron Rodgers swap for Tim Tebow. The negotiations went sour after the Broncos FO brought God to the bargaining table.

 

[LuckyNumber7]

Oakland Athletics get permission to move to San Jose and become the San Jose Athletics.

Merry Christmas Oakland!

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

really hurting their image, as they've had a long, storied history in oakland...