2011 MLB - Part III - World Series, etc. - Page 17

gump · 11-18-2011, 10:22 AM

I thought they were keeping the same number of interleague games, only spread out through the season? At least they are balancing the schedule for interleague play, it seems.

LuckyNumber7 · 11-18-2011, 11:07 AM

This honestly fixes interleague play to make more sense in my opinion.

DRay9911 · 11-18-2011, 12:07 PM

It's stoopid and so is bud selig

kramwest1 · 11-18-2011, 12:22 PM

I think the single play-off is stupid, but I like full-season interleague play.
A mixed bag from Selig? I'll take it instead of a full shitsack.

Headache in a Suitcase · 11-18-2011, 01:25 PM

as much of a douche that selig is... he's done a great job. baseball is in terrific shape.

gump · 11-18-2011, 04:49 PM

Bobby Valentine and Omar Minaya in Boston would be beyond hilarious.

speedracer · 11-18-2011, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gump

Bobby Valentine and Omar Minaya in Boston would be beyond hilarious.

I hate you.

gump · 11-18-2011, 04:54 PM

speedracer · 11-18-2011, 05:18 PM

Seriously, Bobby Valentine is the kind of manager who would tell Dustin Pedroia to bunt Jacoby Ellsbury over to second when down by a run in the top of the 9th, then bench him after he botches it.

gump · 11-18-2011, 06:05 PM

He wouldn't bench Pedroia because "he plays the game the right way", which is a good conceptual category in Valentineland.

He would probably bat Crawford's 0.320 OBP first, though.

I don't think he gets hired, he really is the anti-Tito and not really in the Sox m.o., from my outsider impressions.

DRay9911 · 11-18-2011, 07:20 PM

Headache in a Suitcase · 11-18-2011, 07:24 PM

I fucking love bobby valentine.

He took some mediocre met teams to the playoffs and to the world series. His act wears thin with professional players eventually, but that's because he actually holds them accountable for their actions, something that clearly had been lacking in boston.

He can be my manager any day.

the tourist · 11-21-2011, 10:33 AM

Not a good offseason for international players' safety. Greg Halman was murdered in the Netherlands last night.

DRay9911 · 11-21-2011, 01:31 PM

Glad Verlander got the MVP

LUNEDEMINUIT · 11-21-2011, 01:32 PM

so Verlander is the MVP.Comfortable with that pick?I have a problem with it.

He was the MVP every 5 days....period...not for 6 months.

Should have gone to Jose Bautista.

LuckyNumber7 · 11-21-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LUNEDEMINUIT

so Verlander is the MVP.Comfortable with that pick?I have a problem with it.

He was the MVP every 5 days....period...not for 6 months.

Should have gone to Jose Bautista.

So you're saying that pitchers shouldn't be eligible?

gump · 11-21-2011, 01:42 PM

Ha, Michael Young got one first place vote for MVP.

LUNEDEMINUIT · 11-21-2011, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

So you're saying that pitchers shouldn't be eligible?

Pitchers have the Cy young.The MVP should go to a everyday player.

LuckyNumber7 · 11-21-2011, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LUNEDEMINUIT

Pitchers have the Cy young.The MVP should go to a everyday player.

Well for what it's worth in terms of contribution to his role, a pitcher contributes 1/5th to his role on his team whereas a batter contributes 1/9th to his role.

Obviously it gets a little more complex than that with relief pitchers and defense and whatnot, but one can easily argue that a pitcher is more valuable to his team in residual runs than a batter is.

gump · 11-21-2011, 02:16 PM

A pitcher with 230+ IPs also faces a little over 900 batters. A leadoff batter will have roughly 700 PAs in a season. So I don't really buy the "not an everyday player argument".

That said, there's no way I'd give Verlander the MVP. Ellsbury and Bautista are much more deserving. In terms of advanced stats, Verlander wasn't even a clear-cut Cy Young winner. Greinke had a much better case a couple of years ago.

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gump ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2005 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 10,044 Local Time: 06:38 PM	A pitcher with 230+ IPs also faces a little over 900 batters. A leadoff batter will have roughly 700 PAs in a season. So I don't really buy the "not an everyday player argument". That said, there's no way I'd give Verlander the MVP. Ellsbury and Bautista are much more deserving. In terms of advanced stats, Verlander wasn't even a clear-cut Cy Young winner. Greinke had a much better case a couple of years ago. __________________

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11-18-2011, 12:07 PM	#323
DRay9911 Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 8,308 Local Time: 03:38 PM	It's stoopid and so is bud selig

11-18-2011, 01:25 PM	#325
Headache in a Suitcase Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: This forum just ain't what it was pre-2007 but I still post here Posts: 69,581 Local Time: 06:38 PM	as much of a douche that selig is... he's done a great job. baseball is in terrific shape.

11-18-2011, 04:49 PM	#326
gump ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2005 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 10,044 Local Time: 06:38 PM	Bobby Valentine and Omar Minaya in Boston would be beyond hilarious.

11-18-2011, 04:54 PM	#328
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11-18-2011, 05:18 PM	#329
speedracer Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 7,604 Local Time: 06:38 PM	Seriously, Bobby Valentine is the kind of manager who would tell Dustin Pedroia to bunt Jacoby Ellsbury over to second when down by a run in the top of the 9th, then bench him after he botches it.

11-18-2011, 06:05 PM	#330
gump ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2005 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 10,044 Local Time: 06:38 PM	He wouldn't bench Pedroia because "he plays the game the right way", which is a good conceptual category in Valentineland. He would probably bat Crawford's 0.320 OBP first, though. I don't think he gets hired, he really is the anti-Tito and not really in the Sox m.o., from my outsider impressions.

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11-18-2011, 07:24 PM	#332
Headache in a Suitcase Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: This forum just ain't what it was pre-2007 but I still post here Posts: 69,581 Local Time: 06:38 PM	I fucking love bobby valentine. He took some mediocre met teams to the playoffs and to the world series. His act wears thin with professional players eventually, but that's because he actually holds them accountable for their actions, something that clearly had been lacking in boston. He can be my manager any day.

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the tourist Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 27,918 Local Time: 03:38 PM	Not a good offseason for international players' safety. Greg Halman was murdered in the Netherlands last night.

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DRay9911 Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 8,308 Local Time: 03:38 PM	Glad Verlander got the MVP

11-21-2011, 01:32 PM	#335
LUNEDEMINUIT Acrobat Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 493 Local Time: 06:38 PM	so Verlander is the MVP.Comfortable with that pick?I have a problem with it. He was the MVP every 5 days....period...not for 6 months. Should have gone to Jose Bautista.

11-21-2011, 01:42 PM	#337
gump ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2005 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 10,044 Local Time: 06:38 PM	Ha, Michael Young got one first place vote for MVP.