The National: Sunshine on My B&Ck

[iron yuppie]

I feel like they are gradually reverting to the debut, which was full of pretty but totally aimless songs. In this era that kicked off with Weird Goodbyes, I just don't feel the ramshackle energy that was all over Alligator, Boxer etc.

[joyfulgirl]

Aaron said in an interview recently something to the effect that though the recording sessions started out slow and difficult, once they had a breakthrough the songs came pouring out, and that he felt like they had enough songs for a Kid A/Amnesiac situation. I have heard 7 or 8 new songs on this tour.

The Frankenstein songs are a million times better live, as everything is with them. They're richer and wilder and more beautiful. I love everything about this tour. Matt and the band are in excellent form, in every way. Wish I could be at MSG tonight.

[gump]

Joyful, I have an extra ticket that I won't use as my friend didn't manage to travel. You are welcome to come.

I'm still a bit sour at the fanclub presale for MSG, which was a mess and didn't allow me to get GA, but I am now super excited about tonight. It should be a good homecoming show. My first time at MSG, when I didn't live in NYC, was to see them (and Modest Mouse) open for REM in 2008, and I still can't believe they are headlining MSG with Patti Smith as an opener (the Barclays show a few years ago was a different beast).

Space Invader is absolutely great, I might like it more than anything in the album (though First Two Pages has grown on me lately).

I also wonder whether Taylor Swift might be joining them for a tour debut of The Alcott (it looks like she's in town).

[joyfulgirl]

Originally Posted by gump

Joyful, I have an extra ticket that I won't use as my friend didn't manage to travel. You are welcome to come.

I'm still a bit sour at the fanclub presale for MSG, which was a mess and didn't allow me to get GA, but I am now super excited about tonight. It should be a good homecoming show. My first time at MSG, when I didn't live in NYC, was to see them (and Modest Mouse) open for REM in 2008, and I still can't believe they are headlining MSG with Patti Smith as an opener (the Barclays show a few years ago was a different beast).

Space Invader is absolutely great, I might like it more than anything in the album (though First Two Pages has grown on me lately).

I also wonder whether Taylor Swift might be joining them for a tour debut of The Alcott (it looks like she's in town).

What a lovely offer but I am in NM. I looked into tickets and flights as late as yesterday and, while it is doable, I decided I might go to their Homecoming weekend instead, so it just was getting crazy expensive. The two Denver shows were the only time I've been in the pit for them because I honestly hate the ordeal of it and stopped doing GA years ago, but it was a game-changer for this band. Just fantastic even though I almost died.

I think everyone is wondering about Taylor showing up at MSG. I'd hate to see them upstaged at their first MSG gig by her appearance but I was more wondering about all their other friends showing up ... Sufjan, Bon Iver, Phoebe, etc., maybe a string section. I just thought it might be a bigger show, but alas, I will have to settle for audience clips. The setlists have been incredible. I mean, Cherry Tree in Denver was stunning. I imagine I will regret not going to MSG but I have been very lucky with the shows I've seen so far so can't complain. Can't wait for your report!

[gump]

Originally Posted by joyfulgirl

What a lovely offer but I am in NM. I looked into tickets and flights as late as yesterday and, while it is doable, I decided I might go to their Homecoming weekend instead, so it just was getting crazy expensive. The two Denver shows were the only time I've been in the pit for them because I honestly hate the ordeal of it and stopped doing GA years ago, but it was a game-changer for this band. Just fantastic even though I almost died.

I think everyone is wondering about Taylor showing up at MSG. I'd hate to see them upstaged at their first MSG gig by her appearance but I was more wondering about all their other friends showing up ... Sufjan, Bon Iver, Phoebe, etc., maybe a string section. I just thought it might be a bigger show, but alas, I will have to settle for audience clips. The setlists have been incredible. I mean, Cherry Tree in Denver was stunning. I imagine I will regret not going to MSG but I have been very lucky with the shows I've seen so far so can't complain. Can't wait for your report!

I figured it was worth the offer, but thought in the back of my mind that you weren't close to NYC.

Homecoming will be amazing. I'd have tried to go to that if we didn't have a baby at home. Not sure if you've attended one of their past mini festivals, but it's a totally different energy. Their "There's No Leaving New York" shows 5-6 years ago were two of the best National shows I've seen.

I hear you on Taylor. I personally don't listen to her music a lot, so it doesn't matter much to me if she shows up. I'd love to see Sufjan or Annie Clark (though I think she no longer lives in NYC). But ultimately I agree they should keep the focus on themselves.

[david]

I heard a new album is dropping Monday?

I’m digging Space Invader and Alphabet City.

[gump]

Space Invader is fantastic. Smoke Detector too.

Album out tomorrow. I think I might light it more than First Two Pages based on the 3-4 songs I’ve heard.

[joyfulgirl]

I was at Homecoming, and the sorta botched announcement about the record drop (which you can see on IG) was hilarious. I'm still not sure if it's tonight or tomorrow night. Matt and Aaron indicated last night that they aren't really sure either. A few hundred lucky people were able to buy signed copies—just the vinyl in a blank sleeve, no tracklist or anything.

Having heard a number of these songs live, I think it's going to be great but it's also hard for me to absorb a new National song live.

How was MSG, gump? I saw a great quality video of the whole show on YouTube and I thought they were amazing (audio with headphones almost made me feel like I was there), but it was just a close up of the band from a side angle so I didn't get a sense of the audience vibe.

[cobl04]

Would it kill them to make a good album cover?

[cobl04]

Omg they're touring in March with Fleet Foxes the first time I'll be seeing them following my break-up with someone I shared a deep love of The National with

[iron yuppie]

Someone needs to go to their studio and physically remove the drum machines.

[gump]

Originally Posted by joyfulgirl

I was at Homecoming, and the sorta botched announcement about the record drop (which you can see on IG) was hilarious. I'm still not sure if it's tonight or tomorrow night. Matt and Aaron indicated last night that they aren't really sure either. A few hundred lucky people were able to buy signed copies—just the vinyl in a blank sleeve, no tracklist or anything.

Having heard a number of these songs live, I think it's going to be great but it's also hard for me to absorb a new National song live.

How was MSG, gump? I saw a great quality video of the whole show on YouTube and I thought they were amazing (audio with headphones almost made me feel like I was there), but it was just a close up of the band from a side angle so I didn't get a sense of the audience vibe.

Homecoming sounds like it was great. Loved the setlists, and the line ups were amazing. I missed Pavement here on Thursday night and already regret it (though I saw them last year). Hope you had a blast.

MSG was really great, even if it's not my favorite venue for shows. In the end, I'm glad they didn't have any special guests. Their setlists this tour have been some of my favorite, and it was amazing to hear Cherry Tree. I ended up taking a friend who likes The National quite a bit but had never seen them live, and he was mesmerized. Matt has been in good form (it looks like he's not drinking as much during the shows?). Vanderlyle was pretty special.

Originally Posted by iron yuppie

Someone needs to go to their studio and physically remove the drum machines.

I thought they were much more restrained about the drum machine in Laugh Track compared to First Two Pages (and with the piano as well). I suppose some of the early singles relied heavily on it, but it's less so over the course of the album. I do love Smoke Detector.

[iron yuppie]

It pains me to say this, but I think it might be time for them to hang it up. Frankenstein and this new one are both colossal duds in my opinion; the only track on either of them that even registers a pulse is Smoke Detector.

It's frustrating in that I don't think I've ever seen a band so resolutely play against their strengths over a prolonged period of time; you have an all-time drummer and a pair of guitarists with a penchant for hooks, and instead you insist on a constant flood of puttering synth lines and casio-quality drum machine beats. And about lyrics - the Pitchfork review hit the nail on the head when it asked how many more National songs we need about being awkward at parties.

Honest question - will anyone ever reach for either of these records when you have the likes of Alligator and Boxer next to them on the shelf? I sure as hell won't.

[david]

Yeah, there’s been a significant drop off after Trouble Will Find Me. And that album came out 10 years ago.

[GirlsAloudFan]

I enjoyed my first listen. A few of the standouts for me were Deep End, Hornets, Crumble, and Smoke Detector. Looking forward to more listens!!!

[Joey788]

Originally Posted by GirlsAloudFan

I enjoyed my first listen. A few of the standouts for me were Deep End, Hornets, Crumble, and Smoke Detector. Looking forward to more listens!!!

I'm really liking Laugh Track too. I think it's a big improvement over First Two Pages or I Am Easy To Find. It feels looser than anything they've done in quite a long time, especially Smoke Detector.

Besides the songs above, I'd add Space Invader as a standout track. And the title track is only actually good use of Phoebe Bridgers out of the last two records. Ultimately, I wouldn't put Laugh Track above their run from Alligator to Sleep Well Beast. But that's going to be hard for any band to top. It's still a great entry in their discography though.

[joyfulgirl]

With reviews like this, consistently, across the US , Ireland, and the UK, this is hardly a band ready for retirement. All the songs from Frankenstein and Laugh Track that I've heard live sound amazing. I'm excited to see them yet again when they head back my way after the UK/Europe leg in November.

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[cobl04]

I think Laugh Track is better than Two Pages, but I don't like either anywhere near as much as I Am Easy to Find, of which it appears I am one of the few fans. Smoke Detector is the best song they've released in years, so good to hear something with a pulse. There's a handful of other good tracks on Laugh Track also, and I still like Weird Goodbyes.

Coat on a Hook is up there with their with their worst songs. You could have generated that by typing "make a song by The National" into ChatGPT.

Really excited to see them live next year, they've always been exceptional live and all your reviews have me real pumped.

[djerdap]

Laugh Track is better than Two Pages, but I don't see myself coming back to it a lot. I do enjoy Deep End and Space Invader more than anything off the previous album.

I just wish they followed the Sleep Well Beast (title track I mean) route. That seemed to be an interesting change of sound they could have explored more. There are hints of it in Smoke Detector, so no wonder that is the most interesting track on the record.

On the other hand, it seems that they are hitting their stride live. They're playing long shows, and the two nights in London had no repeats. Pulling a Pearl Jam I see.

[iron yuppie]

Originally Posted by cobl04

You could have generated that by typing "make a song by The National" into ChatGPT.

Next record's lead single: "I Want to Leave This Party" (featuring Olivia Rodrigo)