The Beatles Appreciation Thread - Page 11

GirlsAloudFan · 09-01-2016, 12:00 AM

Agreed. Double Fantasy is my favorite of those others, though. The John tracks on there are really strong. Straightforward and catchy and inviting. The Yoko tracks...not so much.

GirlsAloudFan · 09-01-2016, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by lazarus

I've always found Band on the Run (the song) pretty dumb and stylistically schizophrenic.

It definitely opens up after the first two little sections end and the third part...the real "Band On The Run" part of the song begins (after the big horn fanfare). But I like the previous two sections, too.

"All I need is a pint a day..." is a line I'm fond of.

david · 09-01-2016, 03:01 AM

Temporary Secretary from McCartney II is such a weird Brian Enoesque song.

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the tourist · 09-01-2016, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GirlsAloudFan

Wow, what makes you put Mind Games ahead of both Imagine and Plastic Ono Band? I don't even think it's close to those two. Love the title track, though.

Tight A$, Intuition and #9 Dream are three of my top five Lennon solo songs, so that helps.

GirlsAloudFan · 09-01-2016, 12:58 PM

But #9 Dream isn't on that album.

lazarus · 09-01-2016, 01:31 PM

The mention of Mind Games prompted me to bring the disc on the way to work today, and after about halfway through I think it's pretty damned solid. Personal stuff with a sense of humor and an ear for melody.

GirlsAloudFan · 09-01-2016, 02:55 PM

It's good, yeah. I just don't think it's near Plastic Ono Band or Imagine.

Just taking the former, I mean, songs like "God" and "Mother" are so powerful to me.

the tourist · 09-01-2016, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GirlsAloudFan

But #9 Dream isn't on that album.

Ha! I was misremembering that one. Obviously haven't listened to it in too long. I think I threw it on a burned copy or a playlist with the rest of the album once so I made that association.

nbelcik · 09-02-2016, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by david

Temporary Secretary from McCartney II is such a weird Brian Enoesque song.

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He played that live when I saw him, it was a highlight, so weird and interesting

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Joey788 · 09-02-2016, 09:55 PM

What's everyone's thoughts on latter-day McCartney? I thought "New" was a damn good album. I particularly loved "Queenie Eye," "Appreciate" and "Early Days."

DaveC · 09-03-2016, 12:30 PM

those are pretty good tunes. queenie eye has a cool video and early days is especially moving. haven't heard the rest of the album though, i should.

edit: yea i like this a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CfLUmVso30

prbiker15 · 09-03-2016, 12:57 PM

New is a really good album. Love Queenie Eye, Looking at Her and I Can Bet.

DaveC · 09-04-2016, 08:32 PM

this thread reminded me to start rewatching the anthology series, like i've been meaning to for a long time. damn it's good, although i know it's less so during the last few episodes where it really glosses over some ugly things.

david · 09-04-2016, 08:44 PM

It's weird to think the anthology series was around the 30th anniversary of the band U2 is now at their 40th anniversary era.

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DaveC · 09-04-2016, 08:57 PM

i really appreciate you making me feel so ancient when i'm already half in the bag.

namkcuR · 09-05-2016, 12:38 AM

So, the recent bump to this thread has sent me on a Beatles kick as well. Been listening to all the records. This music never gets old.

I've been putting together playlists of some of the early records that omit all the covers and re-insert the appropriate Past Masters tracks while preserving the official running orders as much as possible. Here's what I've come up with:

Please Please Me

1. I Saw Her Standing There
2. From Me To You
3. Thank You Girl
4. Misery
5. Ask Me Why

6. Please Please Me
7. Love Me Do
8. P.S. I Love You
9. Do You Want To Know A Secret
10. There's A Place

I think this works well - ISHST and FMTY is a great one-two punch at the top, There's A Place works well as a closer, and the whole is a leaner product without the covers(six were dropped). Though I do miss Twist And Shout. It's the only cover I miss from any of these early records.

With The Beatles

1. I Want To Hold Your Hand
2. It Won't Be Long
3. All I've Got To Do
4. All My Loving
5. Don't Bother Me
6. Little Child

7. She Loves You
8. I'll Get You
9. Hold Me Tight
10. I Wanna Be Your Man
11. Not A Second Time
12. This Boy

I know some won't like It Won't Be Long being stripped of its place as the opener, but I Want To Hold Your Hand is such a shot of energy that it didn't really fit anywhere else. She Loves You and it's b-side I'll Get You give the record a boost of adrenaline opening the second side, while This Boy is a quiet closer. This was always a difficult record for me to get through because of all the covers(again, six, nearly half the record), so getting rid of them and adding in the iconic singles improves it for me.

Beatles For Sale

1. No Reply
2. I'm A Loser
3. Baby's In Black
4. I'll Follow The Sun
5. Eight Days A Week

6. Every Little Thing
7. I Don't Want To Spoil The Party
8. She's A Woman
9. I Feel Fine
10. What You're Doing

I always regarded this as the weakest of the early records, because, again, the covers always took me out of it. 6 out of 14 again. But the original material is really solid, and I realize that i never gave it enough of a chance outside No Reply and Eight Days A Week. I think the placement of I Feel Fine gives the back end of the record an umph it was lacking, and its guitar fade-out flows really well into What You're Doing, which I think is a solid closer. She's A Woman isn't really that great of a song, so you could cut if you want, but I just put it there to bulk up the second side. I feel like I've re-discovered this record the most in doing this. Good stuff.

Hard Day's Night and Help have far fewer covers(HDN has none and Help only two) and less to add in(again, nothing for HDN, and only Yes It Is and I'm Down for Help, and I'm not sure either one is worth adding), so there doesn't seem to be much to do with them.

LemonMelon · 09-05-2016, 01:59 AM

Beatles for Sale is underrated. That opening trio is stellar. Beef it up with some of the singles from the period and lop off a couple covers and you've got a sneaky great album.

GirlsAloudFan · 09-05-2016, 02:32 AM

namkcuR, I don't care for the premise of your project and I disagree with many of your opinions on the subject but I love your passion. Keep it up. Long live the Beatles...

lazarus · 09-05-2016, 03:56 AM

I always thought Beatles For Sale was great.

I don't enjoy most of the covers either, but Rock and Roll Music was pretty well done. So was Please Mr. Postman.

cobl04 · 09-05-2016, 06:57 AM

I have not heard a Beatles record older than Rubber Soul.

09-01-2016, 12:00 AM	#201
GirlsAloudFan Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 26,430 Local Time: 08:05 PM	Agreed. Double Fantasy is my favorite of those others, though. The John tracks on there are really strong. Straightforward and catchy and inviting. The Yoko tracks...not so much. __________________

09-05-2016, 06:57 AM	#220
cobl04 45:33 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: East Point to Shaolin Posts: 58,491 Local Time: 11:05 AM	I have not heard a Beatles record older than Rubber Soul. __________________

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09-01-2016, 03:01 AM	#203
david ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: southern california Posts: 10,760 Local Time: 06:05 PM	Temporary Secretary from McCartney II is such a weird Brian Enoesque song. Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference

09-01-2016, 12:58 PM	#205
GirlsAloudFan Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 26,430 Local Time: 08:05 PM	But #9 Dream isn't on that album.

09-01-2016, 01:31 PM	#206
lazarus Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 41,665 Local Time: 06:05 PM	The mention of Mind Games prompted me to bring the disc on the way to work today, and after about halfway through I think it's pretty damned solid. Personal stuff with a sense of humor and an ear for melody.

09-01-2016, 02:55 PM	#207
GirlsAloudFan Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 26,430 Local Time: 08:05 PM	It's good, yeah. I just don't think it's near Plastic Ono Band or Imagine. Just taking the former, I mean, songs like "God" and "Mother" are so powerful to me.

09-02-2016, 09:55 PM	#210
Joey788 Refugee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 2,219 Local Time: 09:05 PM	What's everyone's thoughts on latter-day McCartney? I thought "New" was a damn good album. I particularly loved "Queenie Eye," "Appreciate" and "Early Days."

09-03-2016, 12:57 PM	#212
prbiker15 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 15,679 Local Time: 09:05 PM	New is a really good album. Love Queenie Eye, Looking at Her and I Can Bet.

09-04-2016, 08:32 PM	#213
DaveC Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: turtle island Posts: 22,290 Local Time: 09:05 PM	this thread reminded me to start rewatching the anthology series, like i've been meaning to for a long time. damn it's good, although i know it's less so during the last few episodes where it really glosses over some ugly things.

09-04-2016, 08:44 PM	#214
david ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: southern california Posts: 10,760 Local Time: 06:05 PM	It's weird to think the anthology series was around the 30th anniversary of the band U2 is now at their 40th anniversary era. Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference

09-04-2016, 08:57 PM	#215
DaveC Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: turtle island Posts: 22,290 Local Time: 09:05 PM	i really appreciate you making me feel so ancient when i'm already half in the bag.

09-05-2016, 12:38 AM	#216
namkcuR ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Kettering, Ohio Posts: 10,756 Local Time: 09:05 PM	So, the recent bump to this thread has sent me on a Beatles kick as well. Been listening to all the records. This music never gets old. I've been putting together playlists of some of the early records that omit all the covers and re-insert the appropriate Past Masters tracks while preserving the official running orders as much as possible. Here's what I've come up with: Please Please Me 1. I Saw Her Standing There 2. From Me To You 3. Thank You Girl 4. Misery 5. Ask Me Why 6. Please Please Me 7. Love Me Do 8. P.S. I Love You 9. Do You Want To Know A Secret 10. There's A Place I think this works well - ISHST and FMTY is a great one-two punch at the top, There's A Place works well as a closer, and the whole is a leaner product without the covers(six were dropped). Though I do miss Twist And Shout. It's the only cover I miss from any of these early records. With The Beatles 1. I Want To Hold Your Hand 2. It Won't Be Long 3. All I've Got To Do 4. All My Loving 5. Don't Bother Me 6. Little Child 7. She Loves You 8. I'll Get You 9. Hold Me Tight 10. I Wanna Be Your Man 11. Not A Second Time 12. This Boy I know some won't like It Won't Be Long being stripped of its place as the opener, but I Want To Hold Your Hand is such a shot of energy that it didn't really fit anywhere else. She Loves You and it's b-side I'll Get You give the record a boost of adrenaline opening the second side, while This Boy is a quiet closer. This was always a difficult record for me to get through because of all the covers(again, six, nearly half the record), so getting rid of them and adding in the iconic singles improves it for me. Beatles For Sale 1. No Reply 2. I'm A Loser 3. Baby's In Black 4. I'll Follow The Sun 5. Eight Days A Week 6. Every Little Thing 7. I Don't Want To Spoil The Party 8. She's A Woman 9. I Feel Fine 10. What You're Doing I always regarded this as the weakest of the early records, because, again, the covers always took me out of it. 6 out of 14 again. But the original material is really solid, and I realize that i never gave it enough of a chance outside No Reply and Eight Days A Week. I think the placement of I Feel Fine gives the back end of the record an umph it was lacking, and its guitar fade-out flows really well into What You're Doing, which I think is a solid closer. She's A Woman isn't really that great of a song, so you could cut if you want, but I just put it there to bulk up the second side. I feel like I've re-discovered this record the most in doing this. Good stuff. Hard Day's Night and Help have far fewer covers(HDN has none and Help only two) and less to add in(again, nothing for HDN, and only Yes It Is and I'm Down for Help, and I'm not sure either one is worth adding), so there doesn't seem to be much to do with them.

09-05-2016, 01:59 AM	#217
LemonMelon More 5G Than Man Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hollywoo Posts: 68,639 Local Time: 06:05 PM	Beatles for Sale is underrated. That opening trio is stellar. Beef it up with some of the singles from the period and lop off a couple covers and you've got a sneaky great album.

09-05-2016, 02:32 AM	#218
GirlsAloudFan Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 26,430 Local Time: 08:05 PM	namkcuR, I don't care for the premise of your project and I disagree with many of your opinions on the subject but I love your passion. Keep it up. Long live the Beatles...

09-05-2016, 03:56 AM	#219
lazarus Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 41,665 Local Time: 06:05 PM	I always thought Beatles For Sale was great. I don't enjoy most of the covers either, but Rock and Roll Music was pretty well done. So was Please Mr. Postman.