Springsteen VIII - 2014, tour, album, etc.
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Hewson
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Yeah. I wish I could find it now (would take way too much effort to search it out) but there was a brutal example in Camden of someone getting seats way back in the pavilion with a very low number.
i think you have to ask yourself - with all of their history - and even recent history - of protesting against ticketmaster and the system - if you think you want to blame pearl jam or ticketmaster for that one.
maybe it was pearl jam, but i'm going to err on the side of the monopoly on this one.
maybe it was pearl jam, but i'm going to err on the side of the monopoly on this one.
Hewson
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I give blame to both parties. How much it gets divvied up is a matter of debate and I'm sure TM gets more than 51% of the blame pie, but the band (and personally I think it's Vedder more than the band when you see how tix for his Earthlings tour were priced) definitely was more than just a little bit complicit.
that's fair.
i also can't blame an artist for thinking that money that should go to them goes to the secondary market.
it's a lose lose - but i have minimal fault with anything Pearl Jam have done. they're still about as fan friendly as a major touring act with their pull can be.
i also can't blame an artist for thinking that money that should go to them goes to the secondary market.
it's a lose lose - but i have minimal fault with anything Pearl Jam have done. they're still about as fan friendly as a major touring act with their pull can be.
There are people who are going to bitch No Matter What. Foo Fighters are limiting ticket transfers and forcing resale into a Face Value marketplace on ticketmaster for their headline shows (not festival appearances). IMO, this is preferred for in-demand shows from major artists...
So of course, people are complaining they can’t send tickets to friends or will have to try and sell them if something comes up. Detached from the reality that this is the only current way to keep ticket prices in a reasonable place, sticking ticket buyers with the tickets and cutting out the resale factor. If you’re a veteran showgoer, you can navigate the resale and fan sites (and social media groups) to find someone with an extra at the last minute. For 99% of the public, that isn’t the case. And if the acts are trying to benefit the public, the transfer limitation with Face Value Marketplace is the best option available right now.
Of COURSE there are workarounds (buy 2, sell 1, walk in with the buyer), but that isn’t going to happen en masse on Stubhub, etc.
::steps down off soapbox::
this is also one of the issues with digital ticketing. in the olden days with hard tickets you would either just give the ticket to your friend and/or leave it at Will Call. with digital it's, in most cases, easier to transfer tickets to people who aren't/can't all arrive at the same time - except in cases such as this.
allowing people to transfer their tickets day of show to go to the box office and transfer the tickets to Will Call in person would conceivably solve a lot of those issues. it's not fool proof - but it would things significantly harder or the bigger ticket resellers to pull it off.
you also have cases of resellers selling whole email addresses + passwords as a way of getting around the limitations. if there's a will there's a way. but we should make that way as difficult as is humanly possible.
Bruce and Bobby Jean no longer like the same clothes
Yep. Enough of a PITA that neither situation would be scalable on the big resale sites
Hewson
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Bruce and Bobby Jean no longer like the same clothes
I guess the correct response is...UGG.
DaveC
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Silvio survived?!??
Hewson
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Hewson
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Back to our regularly scheduled program about platinum and dynamic pricing and other ways Bruce and EdVed and the like are sticking it to their fans...The Cure has announced a US tour and has included this language on their website:
Curious to see how this shakes out.
Curious to see how this shakes out.
still doing verified fan though. have you seen any info on actual prices?
VF is a shitshow and, indeed, prices may be high enough in some sections that they didn’t need to mine more $ out of the ticket buyers. Hoping it’s somewhat reasonable
Hewson
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No. That's one of the things I'm CURE-ious about.
I signed up for VF.
Show here is on Father's Day. It's a show I'd go to with right seats and right cost, so we'll see what "Priced to benefit our fans" really means.
Maybe they have the cure for what ails the ticket industry. But if you get closed out, don't be sad - boys don't cry. But oh man if you do get them? That would be just like heaven.
Hewson
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So just saw this part in the new section of Cure's website for the tour announcement:
Good on them.
We'll see what the face is.
Again, shows that Bruce and PJ and others can avoid Platinum and dynamic if they so choose. Of course, it brings scalpers further into the mix, but there are ways to mitigate that a bit.
bruce springsteen's ticketing backlash walked so the cure's ticket policy could run
Hewson
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Maybe (not likely) the recent backlash will result in more bands attempting to do what Bobby Smith and Co. appear to be doing here. (We'll see for sure next week. If tickets are $300 face then this is just a shell game)
i do think the backlash from springsteen and taylor swift's fiasco will lead to some changes in how things are handled, at least short term.
but long term? yea, they'll pop back up again.
but long term? yea, they'll pop back up again.
What we’re seeing now is proof of the level of control upper tier artists actually have, even within the confines of Ticketmaster. Taylor’s as “guilty” as Bruce, he’s just honest about it.
oh 100%
just don't tell that to the Swifties.
just don't tell that to the Swifties.
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