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Old 09-20-2016, 05:53 PM   #841
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Stand Up Comedy was just 'misdirection'.


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Don't know what exactly the misdirection stuff is referring to, but it's anything to do with what I said, I'm just looking at what happened. Back in 2014, the general feeling was the album wasn't coming until 2015, and then they dropped it. Not saying that's what's happening now, just saying it's happened before. But given their history, sure, it's more likely it's a real delay.

Nor am I saying such a strategy would in any way be for diehards like us. It would be to appeal to pop kids who liked it when their favorite artists employed similar surprise release strategies(read: Beyonce).
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Don't know what exactly the misdirection stuff is referring to, but it's anything to do with what I said, I'm just looking at what happened.
There was a quote on Billboard about a week before SOI dropped that there wouldn't be an album until 2015, hence the misdirection claims.

Reality is, a source - even a "band spokesperson" - who has actual connections and gives info that proves to be wrong was simply given incorrect info. Anybody who thinks U2 are actually sitting there with some sort of misdirection strategy for the two hundred or so people who follow this news closely on Interference, atU2, and Twitter is completely kidding themselves.
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There was a quote on Billboard about a week before SOI dropped that there wouldn't be an album until 2015, hence the misdirection claims.
This is exactly what I was talking about. Everyone thought the album wasn't coming, and then it came. Not saying that's necessarily what's going on now, but it's what happened then. So there is a sliver of precedent, even though it's probably more likely there's a real delay this time.

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Nor am I saying such a strategy would in any way be for diehards like us. It would be to appeal to pop kids who liked it when their favorite artists employed similar surprise release strategies(read: Beyonce).
I'm not even saying that that strategy was successful in 2014(it wasn't) or that it would be now(it almost certainly wouldn't), I'm just stating that I think that was the intent.
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I can't even tell what you're saying now. Are you saying that 2014 was a deliberate misdirect or not?

Because somebody who's not a diehard probably wouldn't have even seen that one little quote in an article that was not prominent.
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Yes, I'm saying in 2014 they wanted it to be a surprise release.

I do not know if that is the case this time. I'd lean towards not, towards it being a plain old real delay this time, but there is some precedent given 2014.
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U2 should just do what Radiohead do. Casually throw up a post saying 'it's out guys, new album.' Otherwise, shut the hell up.
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Old 09-20-2016, 11:03 PM   #849
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U2 should just do what Radiohead do. Casually throw up a post saying 'it's out guys, new album.' Otherwise, shut the hell up.
I just don't think that's in their nature.
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I know it's not, but oh well.

Or they could do what Michael Jackson would do back the nineties, erect mysterious pharaonic statues of themselves in the Gobi desert or something. Really get people talking, you know.
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I know it's not, but oh well.

Or they could do what Michael Jackson would do back the nineties, erect mysterious pharaonic statues of themselves in the Gobi desert or something. Really get people talking, you know.
I like both of these options. Mix it up a bit.
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Or they could do what Michael Jackson would do back the nineties, erect mysterious pharaonic statues of themselves in the Gobi desert or something. Really get people talking, you know.
Whichever fan first deciphers the hieroglyphics on the statues gets to pick a song for the setlist.

(It is replaced after two shows by an acoustic medley of Every Breaking Wave, In a Little While, and Stand Up Comedy.)
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Bono paid a visit to Charlie Rose's show on Monday. Interview was shown a few hours ago. The "important" stuff, as summed up in EYKIW:

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So on this next album, a lot are written from the perspective that they're gone, the ego's gone and these songs are standing as lasting messages. He's written songs to his kids, his friends, Ali, and to himself (though initially unbeknownst) .
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Whichever fan first deciphers the hieroglyphics on the statues gets to pick a song for the setlist.

(It is replaced after two shows by an acoustic medley of Every Breaking Wave, In a Little While, and Stand Up Comedy.)

The hieroglyphics on the fifth statue, of an alarmingly erect Tim Cook, reveal the date that U2 will overwrite your entire U2 library with 'improved' versions of their material.
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Bono paid a visit to Charlie Rose's show on Monday. Interview was shown a few hours ago. The "important" stuff, as summed up in EYKIW:
Well, if they're touring in 2017, then that means album release would be early 2017 at the latest.
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Also, Bono apparently said that electing Trump would be a huge mistake. Or something along those lines.
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So final sequencing is being done and maybe last minute mixing? Sounds like the album could still drop last quarter 2016 to be honest.


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Well, if they're touring in 2017, then that means album release would be early 2017 at the latest.

I'm expecting something from them in March or April. It's a fairly typical release window for them (War, Joshua Tree, Pop, NLOTH) and makes sense with what we're hearing.
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Bono paid a visit to Charlie Rose's show on Monday. Interview was shown a few hours ago. The "important" stuff, as summed up in EYKIW:
So based on the theme mentioned by Bono, I imagine The Other Place is like "ZOMG, this is U2's last album!!111!!!"
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