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Old 09-14-2016, 03:50 PM   #741
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The only albums I'd rank below ATYCLB are October and Boy, the later debatable.
Surprising to me that you'd rate Boy that low. It's usually in the 6-8 range after AB/JT/UF/Zooropa/Pop. Extremely cohesive and energetic. Of the first three records, it's the one that works best as a whole imo, even though War has a handful of tracks that are superior to anything on Boy.
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I think it's all about perspective. I like post 90's U2 but I'll never like post 90's U2 even close to the level of 80's and 90's, but I also realize that there are very few groups that enter their 3rd and 4th decades still making good music.

I don't compare their new albums to Zooropa and my other favorites. They'll never compare, but that's ok. I think there have still been so many great moments post 90's both in the studio and live that I'm not going to limit my enjoyment simply because they're in a different era.

Yes, there has been a drop off, but I don't think it's as significant as some make it out to be. But really, fuck if I care all that much. I like all of their albums and if you don't like my opinion, go fuck yourself.
My sentiments exactly (including the 'go fuck yourself' part ).

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Serious question: how many actual non-troll members are there on here who like their post-Pop albums more than pre-Pop?
It's not that I like all of their post-Pop albums more than all of the pre-Pop albums, but NLOTH and SOI are certainly top-tier for me, placing them about October, War and R&H. (Disclosure, I'm somehow not a big fan of War. Mainly because of the vocals.) Though HTDAAB is near/at the bottom of the list for me, that album hasn't aged well.
No, I don't expect them to make another album of the quality like AB, Zooropa or TUF. But modern day U2 is certainly not as bad as some here make them out to be.
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No, I don't expect them to make another album of the quality like AB, Zooropa or TUF. But modern day U2 is certainly not as bad as some here make them out to be.
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Beautiful Day, Kite, When I Look at the World and New York are the songs on ATYCLB that I still return to.

Walk On is too sugary and overproduced on the album but there have been some great live versions. Same deal with Elevation. I've always disliked the production on ATYCLB; for all the hype over its "natural" feel, it sure sounds like a lot of slick pop from the era.
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I didn't realize people described that album that way, unless by "natural" they just mean it doesn't have gnarly synths and dance beats anywhere in proximity. It's slick and clean pop production is in large part what I like about it, and the one fitting home for Bono's earnest-to-the-point-of-silly lyrics in the past 20 years. There's not a song on that album I don't find pleasurable to listen to for one reason or another.
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Surprising to me that you'd rate Boy that low. It's usually in the 6-8 range after AB/JT/UF/Zooropa/Pop. Extremely cohesive and energetic. Of the first three records, it's the one that works best as a whole imo, even though War has a handful of tracks that are superior to anything on Boy.

It is cohesive and energetic. But that's not what clicks with me when it comes to albums. I prefer diversity in style and some sophistication. When you have all those things, it's great.
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Today I was in a Mexican restaurant for lunch and they're cranking Spanish pop songs over their system. I started to hum along with one song and couldn't put my finger on how the hell I knew it until the outro melody. It was Walk On in Spanish, but as soon as the "all that you..." outro came on I knew what it was, it reminded me how solid of a song it is.

There was a Spanish cover of Tainted Love played as well


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Boy is one of the best post-punk debuts ever. Perfect balance of ambition and execution, with complementary production and live wire performances throughout. Bono's lyricism is thoughtful and relatable. That's a starmaking album right there.

Top 5-6 in their discography for me.
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I may have positioned myself as one of UF's biggest fanboys, but these days I'm starting to think that maybe Boy is my #1 U2 album.

But will that make me even more of a contrarian? Being a contrarian isn't cool any more, and we all know that I dislike One just to be cool.
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Beautiful Day, Kite, When I Look at the World and New York are the songs on ATYCLB that I still return to.

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Pretty much the same for me.

Those are some good highs on the album, but it has such serious lows (Grace and Peace On Earth chief among them) that it can never get too high on my personal rankings (and certainly not their "3rd masterpiece" as Rolling Stone proclaimed).
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Today I was in a Mexican restaurant for lunch and they're cranking Spanish pop songs over their system. I started to hum along with one song and couldn't put my finger on how the hell I knew it until the outro melody. It was Walk On in Spanish, but as soon as the "all that you..." outro came on I knew what it was, it reminded me how solid of a song it is.

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I may have positioned myself as one of UF's biggest fanboys, but these days I'm starting to think that maybe Boy is my #1 U2 album.

But will that make me even more of a contrarian? Being a contrarian isn't cool any more, and we all know that I dislike One just to be cool.




My rankings would probably go something along the lines of...
-Top Tier
1 - Achtung Baby
2a - Boy
2b- The Unforgettable Fire
2c - The Joshua Tree
2d - Zooropa
-2nd Tier
6 - Pop
7a - War
7b - Original Soundtracks 1
7c - October
-3rd tier
10 - NLOTH
11 - Rattle & Hum
12 - ATYCLB
13 - SOI
-Worst easily
14 - Bomb
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My rankings would probably go something along the lines of...
-Top Tier
1 - Achtung Baby
2a - Boy
2b- The Unforgettable Fire
2c - The Joshua Tree
2d - Zooropa
-2nd Tier
6 - Pop
7a - War
7b - Original Soundtracks 1
You named my top 8, just in a different order.

1. Zooropa
2. The Joshua Tree
3. Pop
4. Achtung Baby
5. Boy
6. War
7. OS1
8. The Unforgettable Fire

And these are all the U2 albums I still listen to with some frequency.
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1. Achtung Baby
2. Joshua Tree
3. Zooropa
4. The Unforgettable Fire
5. Boy
6. Pop
7. War/Passengers TIE
8. Rattle And Hum
9. Songs Of Innocence
10. October
11. All That You Can't Leave Behind
12. No Line On The Horizon
13. How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb

Or something like that. Achtung is always #1, 2-8 can fluctuate, Bomb is always in last place.
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This game again.

1. The Unforgettable Fire
2. Boy
3. The Joshua Tree
4. Passengers
5. October
6. Pop
7. Achtung Baby
8. Zooropa
9. War
10. Rattle and Hum
11.SOI
12. NLOTH
13. HTDAAB
14. ATYCLB

Honestly, my ranking of 5 to 8 is very even. You could just about consider them a four-way tie for fifth. So don't read too much into Zooropa being eighth.

But 1-4 and 9-14 are much more firm. Like I say, I'm increasingly tempted to swap UF and Boy, and whether HTDAAB or ATYCLB comes last is a bit of a toss-up, but the rest is fixed.
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Haven't done a ranking in a while.

01 - Achtung Baby
02 - The Joshua Tree
03 - Zooropa
04 - All That You Can't Leave Behind
05 - Pop
06 - The Unforgettable Fire
07 - Songs of Innocence
08 - No Line on the Horizon
09 - Rattle and Hum
10 - War
11 - Boy
12 - How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb
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1. Achtung
2. J. Tree
3. POP
4. TUF
5. Zooropa
6. War
7. Rattle and Hum
8. ATYCLB
9. Boy
10. HTDAAB
11. October
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I'm starting to form the view that some of the tendencies that have crippled latter-day U2 - the second guessing, the fear - were already there in nascent form in the POP period. And I am of the view that whatever the band say, we should be glad they had no longer to work on it. Maybe it wasn't 'finished' but it would have only gotten worse with another six months to tinker, I think. What little is out there of the work when it was in embryonic form suggests to me they had plenty of juice, plenty of inspiration, but they were maybe already starting to lose their sixth sense. So what I'm saying is, it's a good thing that it came out a little raw and imperfect.

I actually think another six months or a year might have led them to scrap much of what they did and push more in a Staring At The Sun direction. Remember this was the high water mark of Oasis, whom Bono for whatever reason strongly related to (well, I know the reason, they wanted to be massive, they were populist in instinct, and the UK press hated them). Now it's quite a good song, but it's also a fair early warning of where they were to head in future, with the classic/traditional song structures, the 'perfect pop song' ethos and so on, and the taming of their more unpredictable tendencies.
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Jesus, we've turned into The Other Place.

1. Achtung Birdie
2. The Nashua Tourn
--These two are pretty set in stone.

3. Cockropa
4. Poppycock
--I always wrestle with these two, they're very, very close.

5. Whore
6. Shuttle & Bum
--I've really grown to love the former more in the last year or so.

7. How To Manhandle an Atomic Serve
8. Original Poundcocks One
9. No Net On The Horizon
10. Sons of Illegitimacy
--I think Atomic Serve gets the edge here because of what I feel is its consistency. It doesn't reach the heights of No Net or SOI (unless we're including Mercy), but it also doesn't have gut-wrenching misfires along the lines of Cock Crazy and Stand Up Referee. And I put No Net above SOI because it has a much better opening run. Both finish strong but having a lackluster start really hurts the latter. Cockengers is an experiment I respect more than I enjoy (or listen to), but it's damned consistent and ranks higher because of the sheer nerve behind it.

11. The Unforgettable Liar
12. BallBoy
13. All That You Can't Leave Courtside
14. Cocktober
--Likely my most controversial rankings. I admire the initial Eno/Lanois collaboration for its new sounds/direction, but the number of standout songs just aren't there for me. A Sort of Cock Coming is an all-timer and the whole first side is extremely impressive, but side two usually bores me to tears, including the far inferior studio version of Bad(minton). I guess I was persuaded pretty quickly today to re-rank the debut a little higher than ATYCLC, I just needed some reminding. Cocktober is just weak as fuck outside of a handful of tracks. Just doesn't add enough to their palette from the first album, and it lacks the power of Whore. So there.
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