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Old 08-05-2016, 05:51 PM   #321
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Yeah there's no way the Joshua Tree would have been better as a double album, but I definitely think that the addition of Luminous Times and Spanish Eyes, and the removal of Trip Through Your Wires, would have improved it.
while i wouldn't have minded if trip through your wires was swapped originally with spanish eyes/luminous times, i wouldn't change them now. joshua tree as it is from start to finish is a work of art that although i may not be the biggest fan of ttyw, the whole thing would be different without it.

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Walk To The Water is so good. Along with Loves Come Tumbling it's my favorite U2 b-side.

And now that I mentioned that song, how criminal is it that Love Comes Tumbling is not on TUF? I can't even imagine someone deciding it's not good enough for the album. How does that happen? If they'd replaced Indian Summer Sky with that song or just added it, The Unforgettable Fire would be my favorite album. It's now still slightly behind Achtung.
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I agree with you that Love Comes Tumbling should have been on UF (and The Three Sunrises too), but I'm baffled you would chuck out a song as good as Indian Summer Sky. I'd much sooner cut 4th of July, MLK, or even Elvis Presley and America, to keep it. I don't know why it's been a perennial Interference whipping boy; it's a fantastic track.
same thing as jt - love comes tumbling is hands-down my favourite non-album track and probably in my top 5 overall, but tuf would have been too different with it on there.

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It's better than MLK.
very much this. 4th of july is the best atmospheric guitar work the edge has ever made. period.
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I just replace Elvis with Love Comes Tumbling and I'm good.
i'm gonna replace you with elvis presley and america.

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very much this. 4th of july is the best atmospheric guitar work the edge has ever made. period.
agreed. it's not my favourite track off of the album or anything, but listening to the song within the context of the album, i love it.
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very much this. 4th of july is the best atmospheric guitar work the edge has ever made. period.
Slug tho
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agreed. it's not my favourite track off of the album or anything, but listening to the song within the context of the album, i love it.
the trio of promenade-4th of july-bad legitimately gives me an out of body experience sometimes.
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There's a lot to be said for flow, and context, isn't there. An album - I mean a proper album - is more than simply a collection of songs on one disc, where you go, 'hey this one's awesome too, shove it in somewhere.' Sometimes things fit just as they are. And honestly, as I've probably said in the past, I'm not one for messing with album tracklists unless the artist deserves it (which is to say, their album was a mess to begin with in which case, why am I bothering).

4th of July isn't any more or less than what it is, but it leads perfectly into 'Bad'.
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the trio of promenade-4th of july-bad legitimately gives me an out of body experience sometimes.
i was with you until bad. i'm in the camp of people who thinks the album version is just ehh.
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I think the album version of you is ehh.
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I am one of the very few people, maybe the only one, who thinks studio Bad is better than live Bad, musically speaknig.
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Studio Bad is better than 95% of music but it's not in the same league as the live version, the 2nd most beloved live song (behind Streets) of one of the world's best live bands.
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bad live might be the best live song ever, by any musical act in history.

bad studio is still motherfucking bad. it's ethereal.
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I'm talking strictly music. The experience of live Bad blows everything away, of course.
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What is with multiple people offering TUF playlists that don't begin with A Sort of Homecoming? Like, are you insane? What a phenomenal album opener.
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Try this track listing on for size then:

1. A Sort of Homecoming
2. The Three Sunrises
3. Pride
4. Disappearing Act
5. Elvis Presley and America
6. Promenade
7. Love Comes Tumbling
8. Boomerang II
9. Indian Summer Sky
10. Wire
11. The Unforgettable Fire
12. 4th of July
13. Bad
14. MLK

It's got a big, bright opening with Disappearing Act serving as an emotional pivot to a moodier, more romantic run of songs. Elvis Presley and America may look out of place, but it pairs extremely well with Disappearing Act thanks to Larry's similar drum work and its ethereal ending is an excellent bridge into Promenade. Boomerang II transitions smoothly out of Love Comes Tumbling while starting a run of dark, thematically heavy material that climaxes with Bad. MLK serves as the denouement.
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I won't call Indian Summer Sky overrated, cos it isn't really popular, but I've never got the love from the likes of Ax. Bit of a nothing song as far as I'm concerned. Only the "you give yourself to this the longest day" part stands out to me.
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I love Indian Summer Sky. It's hard to put my finger on why this might be so, but it is.
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