Shuttlecock XIII - Super Deluxe Edition with T-Shirt - Page 15

namkcuR · 08-01-2016, 10:49 PM

I just listened to SOI. It's nearly two years since its release, and I still listen to it from time to time, and I still think it's great. I know there are some here for whom it's never clicked, but for me it's still clearly their best work as a whole since at least Pop. And that's not that uncommon of an opinion among U2 fans, it seems. I've seen people elsewhere saying it's their best since Zooropa, or even AB.

I wouldn't put it in the top tier(AB, JT, UF, Zooropa, Pop, in no particular order), but I'd certainly put it in the next tier(Boy, War, R&H).

I know some argue that NLOTH is better, but I can't agree. There are a handful of legitimately GREAT tracks on NLOTH(title track, MOS, Fez, Cedars) and some near-great ones(Magnificent is close to being great if the low-energy verses didn't drag it down so much, UC has some great elements mixed in with the subpar chorus lyrics), but as a whole it's uneven and not as cohesive as it could've been.

SOI works as a whole. It all covers the same subject matter, albeit from different angles, and musically, it's all from one fabric. At the end, it makes an artistic statement as one piece.

They screwed up on the singles though, for the second straight album. I love The Miracle(never understood the hate for it), but releasing SFS and acoustic EBW back-to-back as singles was dumb. I like acoustic EBW, but the single should've been full band. And California/Volcano should've been singles. Or maybe even Reach. And Crystal Ballroom should've been on the record and a single. I still think they're nuts for leaving it off.

1. The Crystal Ballroom
2. Every Breaking Wave(full)
3. The Miracle
4. SFS
5. Volcano/California
6. Reach

Or something like that.

namkcuR · 08-01-2016, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobl04

For anyone who hasn't listened to Exit in a while, I highly recommend it. Fuck, what a song.

Exit is incredible. A holy-grail 'I wish they would play this live again' track, along with A Sort Of Homecoming, Wire, Hawkmoon 269, Lemon, Dirty Day, and pretty much all of Pop.

kabigon · 08-02-2016, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by namkcuR

I love The Miracle(never understood the hate for it)

From what I can gather..

Stereotypical post-2000 clunky title
Reminds people of SOI launch / continued association with Apple
'Safe' option to use it as lead single following the not totally dissimilar spirit of Vertigo and GOYB

They haven't had a non-track 1 lead single since Zooropa. What was that quote from Edge(?) about putting all the 'hit' songs at the start of the album? Urgh..

I slowly warmed to The Miracle after listening to a bunch of live shows. The whoa-oh-ohs are of course terribly cliche but worked well to open the show / get the crowd involved. Better than 360 which didn't even have a proper opener.

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Originally Posted by mikal

Gosh, are the first 35 seconds of Until The End Of The World pure bliss or what?

The opening of Streets until the vocals kick in is so perfect, the rest of the song feels like a very slight letdown sometimes.

lazarus · 08-02-2016, 10:52 AM

Haven't had a non-track 1 lead single since Zooropa? Get On Your Boots says hello.

But I agree with the general criticism; I hate when the first song I hear the first time listening to an album is something I've already heard for a month or whatever.

Also agree that Breathe was a terrible show opener, though they didn't have many options from that album.

GirlsAloudFan · 08-02-2016, 01:34 PM

This is all great but where's the news on a new album?

Hewson · 08-02-2016, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lazarus

Also agree that Breathe was a terrible show opener, though they didn't have many options from that album.

I saw both Foxboro 360 shows and they opened night 2 with Magnificent (the only time it was the opener), and it was a far superior opener than Breathe.

mikal · 08-02-2016, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GirlsAloudFan

This is all great but where's the news on a new album?

I really think it's going to happen in September/October. All these Instragram posts about them being in the studio a month ago, hanging out with the guy who shoots photos for their album covers, etc...

Hewson · 08-02-2016, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikal

All these Instragram posts about them being in the studio a month ago, hanging out with the guy who shoots photos for their album covers, etc...

Showing the 4 guys it took to prepare Bono's lunch...etc.

mikal · 08-02-2016, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hewson

Showing the 4 guys it took to prepare Bono's lunch...etc.

Oh I thought that was Larry's replacement!

kabigon · 08-02-2016, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazarus

Haven't had a non-track 1 lead single since Zooropa? Get On Your Boots says hello.

I was thinking of Nloth since Nloth 2 is on the Boots single and I'd just forgotten about Boots a little bit..

DaveC · 08-02-2016, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikal

Oh I thought that was Larry's replacement!

i guess it could work, depends on what the lunch is though and if you can arrange the items to hit all the drums and cymbals properly.

lazarus · 08-02-2016, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hewson

Showing the 4 cows it took to prepare Bono's lunch...etc.

Fixed.

The man loves his hamburgers.

Axver · 08-02-2016, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kabigon

I was thinking of Nloth since Nloth 2 is on the Boots single and I'd just forgotten about Boots a little bit..

To be fair, it's good for your health to forget about Boots.

cobl04 · 08-04-2016, 08:03 PM

The conversion has begun. My girlfriend loves Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses. She's angry, but just as I've always suspected, no one can deny the '2 forever.

cobl04 · 08-04-2016, 08:20 PM

Holy shit, I'm just listening to Luminous Times and Walk to the Water, these songs are fucking incredible.

And they're b-sides. How fucking criminal. They're both better than 90 per cent of everything they or any artist have ever done.

BoMac · 08-04-2016, 08:36 PM

Are you listening to these songs for the first time? Friggin'

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martha · 08-04-2016, 08:39 PM

Indeed.

cobl04 · 08-04-2016, 08:46 PM

I've had coffee.

martha · 08-04-2016, 08:50 PM

Not for the first time, I hope.

david · 08-04-2016, 09:05 PM

Deep in the Heart, Luminous Times, and Walk the Water are all pretty good songs from that era.

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08-01-2016, 10:49 PM	#281
namkcuR ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Kettering, Ohio Posts: 10,757 Local Time: 02:55 AM	I just listened to SOI. It's nearly two years since its release, and I still listen to it from time to time, and I still think it's great. I know there are some here for whom it's never clicked, but for me it's still clearly their best work as a whole since at least Pop. And that's not that uncommon of an opinion among U2 fans, it seems. I've seen people elsewhere saying it's their best since Zooropa, or even AB. I wouldn't put it in the top tier(AB, JT, UF, Zooropa, Pop, in no particular order), but I'd certainly put it in the next tier(Boy, War, R&H). I know some argue that NLOTH is better, but I can't agree. There are a handful of legitimately GREAT tracks on NLOTH(title track, MOS, Fez, Cedars) and some near-great ones(Magnificent is close to being great if the low-energy verses didn't drag it down so much, UC has some great elements mixed in with the subpar chorus lyrics), but as a whole it's uneven and not as cohesive as it could've been. SOI works as a whole. It all covers the same subject matter, albeit from different angles, and musically, it's all from one fabric. At the end, it makes an artistic statement as one piece. They screwed up on the singles though, for the second straight album. I love The Miracle(never understood the hate for it), but releasing SFS and acoustic EBW back-to-back as singles was dumb. I like acoustic EBW, but the single should've been full band. And California/Volcano should've been singles. Or maybe even Reach. And Crystal Ballroom should've been on the record and a single. I still think they're nuts for leaving it off. 1. The Crystal Ballroom 2. Every Breaking Wave(full) 3. The Miracle 4. SFS 5. Volcano/California 6. Reach Or something like that. __________________

08-04-2016, 08:36 PM	#296
BoMac Self-righteous bullshitter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Soviet Canuckistan — Socialist paradise Posts: 16,900 Local Time: 03:55 AM	Are you listening to these songs for the first time? Friggin' Sent from my Nexus 5 using U2 Interference mobile app __________________

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david ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: southern california Posts: 10,762 Local Time: 11:55 PM	Deep in the Heart, Luminous Times, and Walk the Water are all pretty good songs from that era. Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference __________________

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08-02-2016, 10:52 AM	#284
lazarus Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 41,669 Local Time: 11:55 PM	Haven't had a non-track 1 lead single since Zooropa? Get On Your Boots says hello. But I agree with the general criticism; I hate when the first song I hear the first time listening to an album is something I've already heard for a month or whatever. Also agree that Breathe was a terrible show opener, though they didn't have many options from that album.

08-02-2016, 01:34 PM	#285
GirlsAloudFan Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 26,431 Local Time: 01:55 AM	This is all great but where's the news on a new album?

08-04-2016, 08:03 PM	#294
cobl04 45:33 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: East Point to Shaolin Posts: 58,494 Local Time: 04:55 PM	The conversion has begun. My girlfriend loves Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses. She's angry, but just as I've always suspected, no one can deny the '2 forever.

08-04-2016, 08:20 PM	#295
cobl04 45:33 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: East Point to Shaolin Posts: 58,494 Local Time: 04:55 PM	Holy shit, I'm just listening to Luminous Times and Walk to the Water, these songs are fucking incredible. And they're b-sides. How fucking criminal. They're both better than 90 per cent of everything they or any artist have ever done.

08-04-2016, 08:39 PM	#297
martha Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Orange County and all over the goddamn place Posts: 42,555 Local Time: 11:55 PM	Indeed.

08-04-2016, 08:46 PM	#298
cobl04 45:33 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: East Point to Shaolin Posts: 58,494 Local Time: 04:55 PM	I've had coffee.

08-04-2016, 08:50 PM	#299
martha Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Orange County and all over the goddamn place Posts: 42,555 Local Time: 11:55 PM	Not for the first time, I hope.