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Old 02-18-2019, 07:43 AM   #921
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I'd suggest your reaction to his dealings with a minor is more concerning than the broader condemnation of him, in my opinion. The headline seems equitable with the behaviour.

Im curious about how you know what my reaction to his dealings with the minor are since i haven't said anything about it here. I'd suggest you disable the surveillance of my apartment.
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Old 02-18-2019, 01:09 PM   #922
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One of his friends, Todd Wisenbaker of La Sera (who tours as a backup guitarist with Adams) has finally spoken out:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BuB6cGJh...=17lvgcfli8o23
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Old 02-18-2019, 04:42 PM   #923
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Old 02-19-2019, 12:12 AM   #924
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I think you missed his sarcasm.
If there was sarcasm, I certainly missed it.

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Im curious about how you know what my reaction to his dealings with the minor are since i haven't said anything about it here. I'd suggest you disable the surveillance of my apartment.
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the headline makes the article seem worse than it is.

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Old 02-19-2019, 07:33 AM   #925
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If there was sarcasm, I certainly missed it.







lol at equating an opinion about an article with an opinion about Adams having video sex with a teenager. doesn't surprise me that you missed the sarcasm now, your reading abilities are...idiosyncratic.

I didn't say anything about Adams and the kid, I didn't say anything that could be construed as being about that or any of Adams' other actions aside from him being a scumbag. Go to hell for applying vile sentiments to me that not only do I not have but that I didn't even hint at. I was talking about a fucking article for God's sake, not Adam's apparent side career as an aspiring Humpbert Humbert.
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Old 02-19-2019, 07:49 AM   #926
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One of his friends, Todd Wisenbaker of La Sera (who tours as a backup guitarist with Adams) has finally spoken out:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BuB6cGJh...=17lvgcfli8o23

I was wondering how long it would take for former bandmates to talk about his behaviour. Given how many people he fucked over there's probably no shortage or people looking to get revenge. I bet Adams' final defense will be "I treat everyone like shit, not just women!"
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Scrumpy, it’s pretty gross (not to mention wildly unfair) to intimate that Hollow Island must be okay with Ryan Adams going after underage girls simply because he thinks a headline is misleading.
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Old 02-19-2019, 09:44 AM   #928
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Old 02-20-2019, 12:03 AM   #929
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I think it is pretty clear some wires have been crossed here on both sides.

I thought Hollow Island was referring to the headline/article in the NYT alleging Adams' offences, hence my (fair, I believe) correlation that his views were minimising the allegations — defending Adams by saying he was being reduced to the worst thing he'd said or done, which in my reading was, inappropriate dealings with a minor.

Now I realise, based on reactions in this thread, Hollow Island was in fact referencing the Neil McCormack article, so I withdraw the criticism and apologise for the misunderstanding.

Perhaps the reaction of telling me to "go to hell" is confirmation of the need for nuanced dialogue instead of outrage.
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Yeah, I was happy to dip after that opening paragraph.
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Old 02-20-2019, 07:51 AM   #932
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I think it is pretty clear some wires have been crossed here on both sides.

I thought Hollow Island was referring to the headline/article in the NYT alleging Adams' offences, hence my (fair, I believe) correlation that his views were minimising the allegations — defending Adams by saying he was being reduced to the worst thing he'd said or done, which in my reading was, inappropriate dealings with a minor.

Now I realise, based on reactions in this thread, Hollow Island was in fact referencing the Neil McCormack article, so I withdraw the criticism and apologise for the misunderstanding.

Perhaps the reaction of telling me to "go to hell" is confirmation of the need for nuanced dialogue instead of outrage.
Playing the "both sides were wrong" card while apologizing AND criticizing my response to the baseless accusation of being ok with an adult preying on a minor. I'm impressed.

Wires were not crossed on both sides. You got confused and basically called me pedophile. Don't blame me for that.

That being said, I accept your Larry David style apology.
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Playing the "both sides were wrong" card while apologizing AND criticizing my response to the baseless accusation of being ok with an adult preying on a minor. I'm impressed.



Wires were not crossed on both sides. You got confused and basically called me pedophile. Don't blame me for that.



That being said, I accept your Larry David style apology.


My point was that I didn’t think it was baseless. I didn’t get confused, you weren’t explicit in what article you were referring to.

Forgive me for thinking it was the, y’know, dominant issue being discussed in the thread.
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