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Old 01-29-2019, 11:43 AM   #901
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Great song. Love being a Ryan Adams fan. No shortage of material. Often dream U2 would do something crazy and release 3 albums in a year. Just get in the studio and don't worry so much about whittling down the 40 songs they start with. I think we would get some cool stuff.
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Old 02-13-2019, 04:47 PM   #902
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Gross.

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Old 02-13-2019, 04:52 PM   #903
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Wow. Very disappointing and disgusting.
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Old 02-13-2019, 06:50 PM   #904
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Ryan Adams - Easy Tiger, Cardinology, Etc.

He is a mess. As I said in the other thread, I saw when he had a public meltdown on IG and posted the shitty comment about his ex gf and thought it was weird and stupid at the time and of poor character. The guy needs help.
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Old 02-13-2019, 08:35 PM   #905
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Good on these women for speaking out, and it sounds like he's a really gross dude. I've never listened to him so I'm not upset.

One thing I do hope however... is that these things can be learning moments for men and all humans. Aziz Ansari is about the only person I can think of who has been accused of something and handled it in an admirable way, based on reports of his latest gigs. That's how I've approached my previous shitty behaviour towards women. Reflect, learn and try to be a better person instead of getting so defensive.
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Old 02-13-2019, 08:41 PM   #906
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Ryan Adams being an asshole is probably the least surprising thing I've heard all week.
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Old 02-14-2019, 08:58 AM   #907
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I guess we’re never getting that album he was working on with Liz Phair; I didn’t really give a shit about his involvement but I just wanted her to have a big comeback.
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I'm a big fan so I'm pretty disturbed by this. I'm not sure what else I can say really. I have always known that he was messed up so this doesn't surprise me when I stop and think about it. I am disappointed that this is more of a recent thing because it did seem like he was getting his life together.
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One of my favorite artists. He's always been a mess for sure. Drug abuse and relationship problems. but doesn't effect the music for me. Lets be honest, torturous and tumultuous personal lives often birth great art.
Obviously this upsets me and he should face the consequences that come. Now, in a fair world, the rest of the artists, producers, execs, etc... should be outed because I would say that dangling opportunity to people for personal gain, or sexual returns in the music industry is as about as common as Trump lying.
Funny how Chris Brown still gets a complete pass as he beats and rapes his way around the world, and only now after 30 years and a documentary has R.Kelly finally gotten some small fraction of what he deserves.
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They don't operate in the same worlds. Chris Brown gets a free pass because he's mega, mega popular, and the shit he's done doesn't reach a critical mass whereby it would actually ruin him, because he's so big, and his music is so general, that even if he was individually ruined, it would carry on being popular anyway.

Ryan Adams operates in a much smaller niche, so this will likely ruin him, and because he appears to be quite a cunt he's doing himself more damage.
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He has fucked up. Audiences will respond accordingly. Whataboutery doesn't help anyone.
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Killing Neil McCormick's Career

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Wow.
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"Indeed, his wondrous solo debut in 2000 was titled Heartbreaker. A report in the New York Times suggests that Adam’s own behaviour towards women has left a lot to be desired. Which rather makes one wonder if the reporters have actually been listening to his music?"

Are there lyrics in his songs about exposing himself to 15 year old girls on webcam too? He's got a lot of albums so I may have missed that one.
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Oh dear. Neil probably needs to go away for a little bit as well.
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the headline makes the article seem worse than it is.

this isn't the era to discuss or write about an issue such as the Adams case with nuance though. the internet mob reduces people who are perceived to have transgressed in any way to the worst version of the worst thing they've said or done.
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Not that Adams hasn't behaved like a complete scumbag! Hopefully being outed will change his behaviour though.
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the headline makes the article seem worse than it is.

this isn't the era to discuss or write about an issue such as the Adams case with nuance though. the internet mob reduces people who are perceived to have transgressed in any way to the worst version of the worst thing they've said or done.
This is the most important era to write about such issues with nuance, due to the obstacle you've just described.

Society has a responsibility to understand his transgressions as deeply as possible and avoid the outrage for outrage's sake.

I'd suggest your reaction to his dealings with a minor is more concerning than the broader condemnation of him, in my opinion. The headline seems equitable with the behaviour.
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I think you missed his sarcasm.
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