Random Music Talk CXXVIII: Cobbler's 42 Hat Sucks

[LemonMelon]

This has been the best year for new music since 2016 IMO.

[gump]

Are we going to simply ignore the fact that Fiona Apple released the best album of the year?

[iron yuppie]

It has a 98 on Metacritic, so I think its place atop most of the year-end lists is pretty secure.

[cobl04]

I have it, but haven’t listened to it yet. Expecting great things

[lazarus]

Friggin’ Cobbler.

You had all of quarantine.

[cobl04]

Yeah except Vinyl Me Please is fucking useless and the vinyl only just arrived. Wanted to wait until I had the vinyl. And now I will probably wait until my housemate moves out / we move in a few weeks.

[cobl04]

PS, I am listening to Can't Buy a Thrill, and thought I was going insane listening to Dirty Work, this ain't fucking Fagen!

[lazarus]

3 songs on the album aren’t sung by Fagen.

Luckily by the second album they realized he should sing everything.

[monkeyskin]

In other 20th anniversary news, the earth shattering, genre defining, greatest debut album OF ALL TIME, Hybrid Theory, is getting a deluxe release.

Jokes aside, it’s crazy that this, The Marshall Mathers LP and 2001 are all hitting the big 20 (2001 was a late 99 release but it feels like a 2000 record based on plays and singles exposure). These albums were insurmountable in my late high school days, for better or worse, and now they’re being trotted out again to in ludicrously expensive packages to dip into my adult bank account.

I was so young then, where did the time go? This must be how Laz has felt for like, forever.

[bono_212]

Originally Posted by cobl04

PS, I am listening to Can't Buy a Thrill, and thought I was going insane listening to Dirty Work, this ain't fucking Fagen!

My favorite album by them and one of my top five favorite songs by them.

[cobl04]

Originally Posted by monkeyskin

In other 20th anniversary news, the earth shattering, genre defining, greatest debut album OF ALL TIME, Hybrid Theory, is getting a deluxe release.

Jokes aside, it’s crazy that this, The Marshall Mathers LP and 2001 are all hitting the big 20 (2001 was a late 99 release but it feels like a 2000 record based on plays and singles exposure). These albums were insurmountable in my late high school days, for better or worse, and now they’re being trotted out again to in ludicrously expensive packages to dip into my adult bank account.

I was so young then, where did the time go? This must be how Laz has felt for like, forever.

I knew about Hybrid Theory, but not MMLP or 01. Damn. I want all three badly.

[Axver]

I am completely furious with the passage of time and cannot accept those albums are 20.

[lazarus]

Any fans of The Waterboys here? I first became aware of them when I heard one of their songs covered at a Poi Dog Pondering show (any fans of that band either??) in the early 90s, and at the time was unaware of their connection to World Party, whose album Goodbye Jumbo is probably my favorite of 1990 after Sinéad’s.

Anyway, something recently reminded me to finally check them out via their album This Is The Sea, which I believe is regarded as their best? It’s considerably more uptempo and varied than I expected, great album and I’m definitely interested in hearing more. At this point I’d say I still prefer World Party, and that band’s frontman (or really the only man, as it’s a Nine Inch Nails-type group) Karl Wallinger has a considerably better vocal delivery.

If anyone has a recommendation as to where to go next, I’m open. It appears Fisherman’s Blues is another highlight.

[Popmartijn]

Originally Posted by lazarus

It appears Fisherman’s Blues is another highlight.

Yes, that is possibly their best. It has a more Irish, folky sound than This Is The Sea. The songs on it are stellar (the title track, We Will Not Be Lovers, World Party (the song), The Stolen Child). Some years ago they released a 6CD boxset of all the sessions for the album, called Fisherman's Box. Though it's a bit overwhelming if you're just getting into the band, it is recommended if you do like the album.

After Fisherman's Blues I'd probably recommend its successor Room To Roam (which is more in the vein of Fisherman's Blues) or start at the beginning with A Pagan Place (which is closer in sound to This Is The Sea).

After all these years the band is still going strong, having just released a new album Good Luck Seeker. I still have to check it out. I thought their last few albums were enjoyable, but not earth-shattering.

[phanan]

RIP Eddie.

[LemonMelon]

I didn't know if you meant Van Halen or Vedder at first.

Completely forgot that EVH had cancer. He had been sick for a long time. RIP to one of the most influential guitarists ever.

[namkcuR]

Oh wow. That's awful. R.I.P.

Van Hagar was my first favorite band when I was seven years old.

[namkcuR]

Originally Posted by cobl04

I knew about Hybrid Theory, but not MMLP or 01. Damn. I want all three badly.

Originally Posted by Axver

I am completely furious with the passage of time and cannot accept those albums are 20.

Some other albums that have turned 20 this year:

Smashing Pumpkins - Machina(the last album of their classic period - and it gave us the stone-cold classic "Stand Inside Your Love")

Coldplay - Parachutes(their debut is still one of their best)

Pearl Jam - Binaural(one of their most underappreciated, and imo their last great one)

Green Day - Warning(their last album before American Idiot, "Macy's Day Parade" is a great song)

[lazarus]

Originally Posted by namkcuR

Oh wow. That's awful. R.I.P.

Van Hagar was my first favorite band when I was seven years old.

The real Van Halen was my first.

Eddie seemed to be kind of an asshole w/r/t the whole Michael Anthony firing as well as the David Lee Roth controversy, but he’s a guitar god.

RIP

[david]

EVH really innovated things with his playing style. I read an article where he alluded to a metal guitar pick he used to keep in his mouth when playing being a possible cause of his cancer. But he was also a heavy smoker and battled alcoholism. He is a legend though. RIP.