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Old 11-14-2017, 01:49 PM   #761
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The groupie thing re Bowie is interesting. It's fucked-up, but .... I hate to try and justify anything, but a) it really was a different time; but mostly b) the woman in question said that she really didn't see it as something bad that happened to her, and that if I recall correctly, he was very respectful and when she said she wasn't up for it the first time they got together, it was cool.

I think it's important to hear what the person who may be considered a victim has to say in these situations. Contrast this story with Polanski, where she told him to stop and he didn't, despite it being "a different time." I mean, fuck that guy. (I understand that she'd prefer the legal situation just be dropped at this point, she'd like to move on, and I respect that enough to not care if he's allowed to come back to the US or whatever, but still, fuck that guy for raping her.)

In general, bands sleeping with very young groupies is super gross. But with this specific Bowie story? Gray area. Maybe he fucked young groupies on a regular basis, in which case, ew. But this is the only story that gets brought up (that I've heard, anyway). I'm sure there were others.
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You can basically accuse every classic rock band of the same thing, I imagine. Including the Beatles when they were in Germany.
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Oh, totally.
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And how old was Priscilla when she started "dating" Elvis?


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Elvis Presley or Elvis the guy who used to run this message board?
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White trash?

The Memphis Flash?

Would have been a sissy without Johnny Cash?

That one.
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I always wondered what metal people did with Burzum, if they separated whatshisface’s church burning, murdering, literal nazi self from the music or write it off as 100% not okay. People try to do that with Skrewdriver where they’re like “I only like the first album,” but they’re usually still called out as racist for even slightly being okay with anything that shithead ever did. I always assumed it was more because the general public hears “skinhead” and equates it with neo nazi, and those of the non nazi variety are a lot quicker to want to separate themselves from the scumbags who co-opted their subculture. That’s always the approach I’ve taken. Sure it sucks when entire 2 day festival-type show get cancelled cos someone goes and books fucking Condemned 84 again. It’s still better than being seen as sympathizing with nazis though.
In the various extreme metal communities, the line tends to be based more on lyrical content and visual aesthetic. Like, Varg is a Nazi fuckwit who murdered his Mayhem bandmate Euronymous, but Burzum's music is not about Nazi themes. None of the lyrics and imagery are political at all. Most black metal fans despise Varg but rate Burzum's third and fourth albums highly; we wouldn't have atmospheric black metal as a genre without Burzum. On the other hand, there are bands that have lyrics or symbolism that is explicitly Nazi - it's even a sub-genre of sorts, National Socialist Black Metal - and those I absolutely will not listen to. NSBM fans get heaps of shit and it's very much a corner of the genre that's disowned by most of the black metal community. Anybody who tries to spruik an NSBM band or argue they're not serious or "not that Nazi" is going to get howled down.

To be honest I suspect a few favourites of possibly holding rather unpalatable political views (though not quite Nazism, thank fuck). If John Haughm of Agalloch is one of those right-wing pagan types I wouldn't be shocked. I even worry about Neige from Alcest - I can perhaps look past his teenage work with the far-right band Peste Noire because he was so young and got fired by the ideologue whose band it is. But as an adult he was part of Old Silver Key with the members of Drudkh, whose music I like but about whom there are rumours of far-right nationalist views. So I've always hoped Neige doesn't have latent far-right sympathies. Nothing I know of him from meeting him a few times or reading plenty of interviews has ever suggested anything untoward, but the associations raise my eyebrows a little.
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I've been torn up about the Brand New news. I just finally got into them in 2015, and there's a lot I like about their newest album. But I feel guilty listening to it now.
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So there's a new Sleigh Bells EP.

It's actually probably the best thing they've done since Reign of Terror.
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It’s really great. Rainmaker is an early standout for me.
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RIP Malcolm Young.
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Damn this new Charlotte Gainsbourg is hot. I didn't expect anything that could match IRM, but Rest may be better.
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RIP Malcolm Young.
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I'm amazed at guys like Kevin Parker who can write, records, mix, and produce their own material. To be so close to the material makes it... just complex and a lot of gray areas. And then you just hope you're not mastering it too loud. But you probably are.
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I need to listen to some AC/DC tomorrow. Malcolm was one of the great rhythm guitarists.
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Kevin Parker rules, yeah.

I have a lot of respect for multi-instrumentalists who produce much of their own work. Obviously there are genius jack-of-all-trades like Paul McCartney, Stevie Wonder and Prince, but it was actually Beck (who mostly produced just his earliest material) and Todd Rundgren who really inspired my own recording process. I don't know where I would be without Mellow Gold or Something/Anything? as an illustration of what a person could do with a recording studio. Those albums make recording rock music sound like the greatest job in the world.
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If I had more money than time, I would definitely be giving this to someone else to mix and master. Unfortunately since it will probably be heard by less than 100 people, I can't justify the money. Just the time. Which isn't without its own cost - sleep; for my toddler will still be up at 7:30.
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You only need one AC/DC album. Really, you only need one AC/DC song. Everything they've ever released is exactly the same. But what they did, they did really bloody well.
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